Is amazing. I love it. My DS games look so much better on the new screens. Even GBA games look 10 times better. Detail I never knew existed in some of my games are now showing up. I picked up a copy of 'New Super Mario Bros' as well, and I must say...Best.Game.Ever. Did anyone else pick up a DS Lite? It's worth it. Even if you already own a DS. Trade it in and get a DS Lite.

(Also, the DS Lite inspired me to make a MGS3 parody)


Eva: It's a Japanese Type handheld gaming system. Around here, even that's hard to
come by. Don't worry, though. The one I've got for you is American made. (hands
Snake a DS Lite)

Snake: DS Lite, huh. (stomps out his cigar) Incredible...

Eva: Do you like it?

Snake: The entire system is polished to a mirror sheen. The entire system is 20% lighter and 40% smaller than the DS, making it 57 grams lighter. The buttons are made of softer plastic making them more responsive. Both transmissive LCDs have been interlocked to prevent dust and damage. The new stylus is longer and heavier for added precision and more comfortable play. The screens are even four times brighter. The sliding power-switch adds for extra safety against accidental shut downs and is placed on the side to make it easier on the fingers. A long-life battery with almost 20 hours of play time. A GBA slot protector... The base of the DS has a plastic dust cover that can snap into the GBA slot when empty. And not only that, nearly every part of this system has been expertly crafted and customized. Where'd you get something like this?

Eva: I grabbed it from an EB Games at the mall. It came in yesterday on pre-order... and there are plenty more in stock if you need another. You had
this with you, didn't you? (holds up Snake's New Super Mario Bros.) Better take this, too.
(shows Snake the DS Lite power adapter)

Snake: What's this?

Eva: A power adapter incase you run out of battery.

Snake: ...I love you.

Eva: You're here to rescue Sokolov, right?

Snake: Not any more... (Snake inserts New Super Mario Bros. in his DS Lite and turns it on)

Eva: But Snake, He's being forced to continue his work on the Shagohod!

Snake: Not now, Eva. (Starts playing)

Eva: Snake, you have to sa-

Snake: Eva..Not now!

Eva: Snake! You don't understand. If Sokolo- (Snake puts down the DS, stabs Eva and picks up the DS again)

Snake: Now, where was I... (Mario death sound) Son of a-

*Credits*

I'll keep my DS. I find my DS screen more than bright enough for situations I play in, and New SMB and Yoshi's Island all look great on the screen with lots of detail.

The size intrigued me, but then I remember that I find the DS perfectly fine. In fact, I like holding it more than I did my PSP.

You are right though, New SMB kicks aish! I'm replaying it right now to find all the gold coins. Some of those are reallllly tough.

/me huggles his PSP for it still rox the DS hardcore. <-- This is the author's opinion.

I want to get one. I sold my PSP so I am hand-held-less, and it is an attractive looking system.

I've had my DS Lite since launch, and I love it. I had just completely beaten the new SMB before hand (all coins spent, all levels beat, and all second exits/hidden paths found), and played through it again on the DS Lite and noticed a major difference. I've yet to play a GBA game on it though. But I love the feeling of it, the size of it, the buttons that stick out further, the slightly longer stylus, and (of course) the screens. It fits much more comfortably in my pockets too.

Now it's just a matter of waiting for the Phantom Hourglass (DS Zelda game for those who may not know) and the Wii + The Twilight Princess.

DS Lite Review: Part 1
DS Lite Review: Part 2
DS Lite Review: Part 3

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]/me huggles his PSP for it still rox the DS hardcore.[/QUOTE]and by still you mean never did.

The DS Lite is to the PSP as Clint Eastwood's manliness is to Cool Matty's manliness.

I agree, I can't stand how the PSP's screen ghosts so much. It ruins the gameplay for me, however lame that may be.

The DS is coming out with a web browser by the end of the year.Pictochat is a chatting program. Emulators? Why would you need an emulator on a system that already plays great games? Also, doesn't the PSP now block emulation? So running an emulator on it is now very hard to do / illegal? Also, who cares about custom software. It's meant to play games.

I'm probably gonna pick one up in the fall or winter, whenever Phantom Hourglass comes out. Hopefully there will be more colors than just white by then.

I honestly couldn't care less about a PSP.

Well, the parody wasn't funny but the DS Lite does look like fun.

SAJN did your band ever get put on Songfight?

You don't find anything funny :p

Also, our band hasn't been put on Songfight.

Yes I do. Just not geek-humor, which has quantifiable characteristics.

I thought you sent in a song for the latest fight. And they changed the upcoming set of titles, haven't the entries been posted?

Ooooooooh. Jesus. I forgot about that >.< Heh. Yeah, I did send a song to this fight. I forgot all about it. It wasn't our band though. It was just myself and a friend Ted. It was more of a test with his new guitar pedal. It's awful, but it's fun ^_^.

ANYWAY...


How about that DS Lite!

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]The PSP's homebrew capability is far more valuable to me than its gaming ability.[/QUOTE]

The PSP is the better multimedia device. The DS is the better gaming handheld. And the later is what most people look for in a handheld, so the PSP "owning the DS hardcore" is sort of a joke.

If playing 10 year old games, watching some downloaded movies and having a remote desktop is your thing (and then a bizillion other things of no real importance to the average user), yeah, then the PSP is better.

The PSP costs much more than the DS Lite. The games cost more and there are far fewer of them, even less worth playing. The multimedia capabilities can only be taken advantage of by repurchasing the DVDs you already own for the same price. The memory card format is proprietary and much more expensive than other flash storage media. The PSP is meant to be a portable gaming system, but considering its size and the total lack of games it cannot be described as such. The only merit the system has is due to how utterly pathetic Sony is at DRM/TPM software. The PSP is the Xbox of the handheld market.

DS Homebrew exists as well; you can buy SD and CF card readers for the system. There is a MAME port, a ScummVM port and emulators for the Atari 2600, Gameboy Color, Genesis, Game Gear, NES, SNES, Ti-85 calculator and the Wonderswan. There are native ports of Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, and others. It also has a touchscreen which makes it way better for things like terminal services or web browsing.

Your house is made of sand, good sir.

What Jon said.

I owned a PSP, and loved it, but only for playing movies. I would rather play GTA on my 5.1 systen at home. Same with Burnout Legends, Madden, etc. At the point where I had mine, the PSP had yet to receive it's killer app (now it has Syphon Filter, which did kick *** when I played it). The problem was that I didn't use the PSP for games...at all. I played Lumines every once and a while, but that's it. I didn't wanna pay 50 bucks for games. When I traded my PSP for a DS + 8 Games, someone was like "You aren't gonna pay for games for the DS either". Since then, I've bought at least 3 DS games, and a GBA game, and this was only a month or so ago. Timewise I've spent with the system, I've already spent about 20x longer playing games on the DS than PSP. I plan on buying the new Starfox, Zelda, Trauma Center: Under the Knife, and even Brain Age since it's only 20 bucks and has sudoku.


I play games on my DS, that's why I prefer it over the PSP. If I want something to VNC with, play some mp3s, watch occasional movies, I'll get a PocketPC. At least that has a somewhat useable keyboard for doing text entry. Browsing the net with the PSP was just painful.

Well, sales wise the DS is owning the PSP silly. >.>;; And I don't see why you want a handheld that can do more than gaming, Nokia N-gage anyone? I don't want a handheld for which I'd have to buy movies that I already have again. <.<;; Nor one that has a tendency to get lazy to death pixels quite easily.

At least the DS brings something new to gaming. *nodnod* Innovation, ikuzo!

Yeah, I just got back from target where I got the DS Lite and the new Super Mario game. I haven't opened it yet, though, I have to do some more work on the house tonight before I can.

Well, I know where my next paycheck is going.

[QUOTE=Pedro T Hutt]Well, sales wise the DS is owning the PSP silly. >.>;; And I don't see why you want a handheld that can do more than gaming, Nokia N-gage anyone? I don't want a handheld for which I'd have to buy movies that I already have again. <.<;; Nor one that has a tendency to get lazy to death pixels quite easily.

At least the DS brings something new to gaming. *nodnod* Innovation, ikuzo![/QUOTE]

Oh, and last month's (May) sales reports say otherwise:

http://pspupdates.qj.net/index.php?pg=49&aid=53673

To give you the quick stats:

PS2 - 231,616
360 - 220,877
PSP - 159,659
GBA - 152,023
NDS - 145,930
GCN - 33,040
XBX - 26,353

Yeah. However, I don't see any PSP games selling 900,000 copies in 4 days (New SMB). DS Lite sold 950,000 consoles last month world wide, also. That isn't too shabby, if I do say so myself. Hell, DS consistently has 6 games in the top 10 sales all the time in Japan. PSP at most has one.

Then again, US vs. Japan markets are different, so i'll give you that.

Edit: Nevermind, you were using Japan figures.

As for the New SMB... I'll discuss that further when Loco Roco arrives.

DS came out like a month ago in Japan.

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]DEBUNK TIME![/QUOTE]And by "debunk time" you mean the exact opposite.

That's nice.

Sony deliberately restricted the resolution of videos on the memory stick. The only way to get comparable quality is to hack your PSP. Xbox of the handheld world.

...What?

What's your point? It's still more expensive.

I agree, and the PSP is a very weak end product. The only way the PSP is even remotely useful is if you hack it to run homebrew software.

Yeah, it's called a PDA. Except PDAs have touchscreens.

Really? I wouldn't know. My handheld system has modern games for it.

What's really funny is that you probably think you know what you're talking about.

They have Quake 3 running on cell phones. Cell phones that are cheaper than the PSP. But, yeah, good for them.

I think it's funny that the guy who keeps saying that the "PSP is best to ME" is fighting so hard to make it sound like the PSP is good for everybody.

STOP POSTING AND EDITING AT THE SAME TIME I AM.

Why do people want 30 different functions in one single system? I guess it's cheaper, but that's about it. The PSP seems cluttered to me, and the DS Lite looks cute. I still don't like spending that kind of money on a gameboy, though.

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]STOP POSTING AND EDITING AT THE SAME TIME I AM.[/QUOTE]
Lol, my bad. That was my last post anyway..well..techincally this is, but you get the point.

IGN.com






OnNintendo.com

English training is a great game.......

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]Too bad the "hacks" involve dragging and dropping a folder. Which you'd have to do to use the XMB interface anyway. Sooo haard. Your point is null and void.[/QUOTE]Um. Unless they changed the PSP significantly since I owned one, the PSP's firmware is hard-coded to only accept 76,800 pixels per frame unless it's playing a video back from a UMD. The PSP's display is 130,560 pixels (480x272). This is an enormous difference in quality.

As long as I owned a PSP it was Sony's policy to intentionally handicap the system in order to drive up UMD sales.

No, I've heard of them. I have no idea what your point is. The Gameboy Advance isn't intended to be a general-purpose media player: the PSP is.

Not to mention the fact that I was talking about the Memory Stick. Gameboy carts aren't meant to be a general-purpose storage format for mobile devices, the Memory Stick is.

I do consider $10 to be "much more expensive" when the memory card is not useful for any of my other devices, all of which use SD.

Microdrives are also available in CFIO format now, too, which means bulk storage (4 GB+) for very low prices.

...Much like the PSP's multimedia features?

No, by "modern" I mean they're actually making games worth playing on the DS. There is no need to put an emulator on the DS because there is enough fun to be had without one.

I owned a PSP up until a couple of months ago. The only game I played with any regularity was Lumines.

I take it you've never used a PDA before. Webpages are impossible to read if the large images are left inline.

Plus the Post Your Desktop threads are lame. Why would you want to read them on a PSP or also ever?

No, I was pointing out the availability of homebrew software. I'm fairly confident that the DS could run Quake 1 and 2, I just haven't heard of any ports of those particular games.

Well I don't know. My PDA can play music and videos, it has a better battery life and it also has a touchscreen. One of the first things I did when I got it was write a PocketPC version of Tetris, so that's about all I ever used my PSP for right there.

I might get a DS Lite. I might not. If I do, however, I will have one.

I wonder how Jon'C and Cool Matty will respond to that slam dunk of logic.

So, I'm playing the new Super Mario game and it rocks. I love the 2d gameplay rendered in 3d, it looks and plays awesome. And like all mario games I have played, it's extremy polished, the character feels like part of the world (like JK, but not like most games, where the character feels like he's floating around and the collision detection sucks). I like the old-school gameplay and the the new twists as well. I hope the DS-Zelda is as good as this!

And the screen on the DS Lite is ultra bright (it defaults to level 3 of 4, 4 was actually too bright for me). It looks a lot better than the regular DS (my step-daughter has a regular DS and she noticed a huge difference in picture quality).

I *really* wish more developers would make these hybrid 2d/3d games, the gameplay is so much simpler and more fun, there aren't all these weird camera-angle problems (which still plague most true-3d platformers), and the controls are intuitive. I hope more developers follow nintendo's lead on this one, and not just for hand-helds.

The mini-games on new Super Mario were mildly amusing.

The mini games were taken from Mario 64 DS, except there are far more of them on Mario 64. I think they just tossed it in for an added feature. If you like the side scrolling 2D/3D gameplay on the DS, check out these games...


Kirby: Canvas Curse


Castkevania: Dawn of Sorrow


Sonic Rush


Yoshi Touch & Go


Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble

I'm surprised no one has talked about Age of Empires on DS. I saw it in Future Shop a while ago and I kicked myself for selling my DS. Even though I needed too.

If I want to play games on the road or watch movies while not at home or chat or web browse when I'm waiting in the doctors office.. I'll just use my ****ing laptop!

Victor Van Dort, Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely check out the yoshi one and the kirby one. I haven't been a fan of castlevania since #2, which was more RPGish than the rest. Re: sonic rush, it was mildly amusing, but I'm weary of sonic games and that one was particularly awful due to the view switching between the two screens.

Anyone played super princess peach?

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]Which is why there is a far superior player available to download, that not only plays at full resolution, but even allows divx, and x284/AVC which isn't supposed to be playable without firmware 2.0. If this is considered a "hack" then oh well, but it doesn't negate how useful the PSP is. (And I don't really consider something a hack unless it's modifying the firmware, while you seem to interpret it as doing anything not meant to be done with the PSP)[/QUOTE]Utilizing exploits in order to run homebrew software is a hack. The overwhelming majority of people who own PSPs are not technically-proficient enough to do this; ergo, for all intents and purposes, the PSP is not a good portable media player.

I accept your concession.

I suppose so. I don't make it a habit of expressing the opinions of other people, so yes you could say that is it my opinion.

Hard, unwieldy, unportable, uncomfortable. The PSP isn't very comfortable for gaming either. I'm not saying my PDA is any better, but it's certainly not worse.

Wait... why are you screeching at me now about how I'm expressing my own opinion? In this entire thread you've been expressing your opinion. Am I not allowed to do the same?

Secondly, PCs don't have that many games anymore. At least not that many good ones. This is beside the point, however.

Not as insanely annoying as post your desktop threads.

Oh okay.
Have you ever considered that PSP homebrew is ahead of the DS homebrew because:
1.) Flash carts needed to be developed for the DS, which takes time; and...
2.) The DS has had great games all along, while the PSP's library just broke 10 games within the last 2 months?

Except for the touchscreen and the D-Pad.

I'm not even sure what you're arguing anymore. Pretty much everything you've said has shown has the PSP is actually a horrible pile of crap for the vast majority of people and only ever becomes worthwhile when you load it full of homebrew software. I mean, this should be funny, but it's just sad.

I just recently Purchased Princess Peach. I haven't played it too heavily yet, just a little bit of the first level and it does have it's similarities to the Super Mario Bros. game. My inital impression was that it's almost geared more towards the slightly younger and perhaps female gaming community in the graphics, gameplay, and difficulty.

You use different emotions to give you different powers. It's interesting, and perhaps worth a look, I can give you a better idea later after I play it some more.