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Ha I knew it. This prooves it.
2003-12-22, 7:19 PM #41
Personally, my left hand does the job quite well.

Wolfy and Run make good points...

And for those who say "you have no idea what you are missing out on", that is a similar line from drug dealers. And that isn't all the two subjects have in common, but I'll leave it at that =P

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2003-12-22, 7:45 PM #42
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lord Kuat:
Personally, my left hand does the job quite well.

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[http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif] !!!!! this is a public place!



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2003-12-22, 8:03 PM #43
Yeah, Elana brings up a good point. Left-handed people like yourself should not be allowed in public forums. Go spread your lefty-loving propaganda elsewhere, freak.
2003-12-22, 8:33 PM #44
I dunno, I think some of you are swearing off relationships way too quickly. I'm not saying you can't achieve happiness without being in a relationship...just don't go ruling it out altogether. I can understand feeling that way though as I did as well a few years ago.

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2003-12-22, 9:07 PM #45
Reading over that article, I notice that all they're saying is that women who break up a lot are less mentally stable than those who remain single. They mention nothing about women who find a partner and stay with said partner for the rest of their life. Well, they sort of do at the end, but it's all confused and contradictory.

All I can see that it's saying is that breaking up is tougher on women than it is on men. It's a horribly sloppy article, though. They keep saying things like [paraphrased] "Women who keep breaking up are less mentally stable than men who are currently in relationships." Well, gee, ya think so?

You would think that in the thousands of years humanity has been on this earth, we would have figured some of this stuff out by now...

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2003-12-22, 11:12 PM #46
Yeah, the article really does sound like complete drivel.
From what I've seen around me growing up, though teenagers really do get screwed up when they have their hearts broken, it seems like a necessary thing to go through in order to be able to make sensible choices regarding future relationships. People only tend to learn by making mistakes. Generally speaking, I think I've been alot happier when I've been in a relationship, but it's just nice to have someone around that you know cares about you, in much the same way as close friends are always a good thing.

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2003-12-23, 1:53 AM #47
wow. life as a virgin... being 17 and sexually active i don't know how any man with any sex drive at all could not resist the urge to go out and meet other girls. I have been in a realtionship with 1 girl for 8 months now but even still I try to meet new girls and talk to the opposite sex on a regular basis. But to each his own i just really think your missing out on what God gave humanity which is the ability to have the best feeling in the world yet you must be with someone else to get it. I play hockey to and i think differently of the kids who do not like contact sports and do not play sports in general much like I look diffewrntly at those who feel tehy ahve no need for a companion. for me there is just some urge to meet girls and challenge myself physically.

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2003-12-23, 2:03 AM #48
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Wuss:
Yeah, Elana brings up a good point. Left-handed people like yourself should not be allowed in public forums.</font>


ROFL

Erm, that Ladder Theory, I was hoping it was a joke, but after reading it, I realise I was only ever a cuddle b**ch to a frigid christian serial dater. So its all true

/runs off and whimpers

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2003-12-23, 2:09 AM #49
oh and btw

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ladder Theory:
Note that the following topics of disinterest have been field tested and shown conclusively not to work: Unix, literature, poetry, international politics, and sodomy.
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*phew. Dodged a bullet there.

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2003-12-23, 2:58 AM #50
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jaiph:
I'm not saying you can't achieve happiness without being in a relationship...just don't go ruling it out altogether.
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It's no different than you committing to spending the rest of your life with the one woman and ruling out being with anyone else for the next 70 years. If I recall, you're abour 24(?), many people would say that you are crazy for getting married at such a "tender age". Not me though, you do what you think is right and everyone else be damned [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif].

I can't speak for Wolfy, but I didn't come to this decision overnight. I spent a considerable amount of time thinking about what I wanted, I still do, but the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that I'll be better off single.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">which is the ability to have the best feeling in the world yet you must be with someone else to get it</font>


Well that's where you and me differ, I don't believe that a partner is required to experience said feelings. But like you said: each to their own [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
2003-12-23, 3:02 AM #51
Like Run, I've always heard, "You will change when you meet her," or, "You'll understand when you're older." The thing is, I thought I had met "her." Aren't you supposed to meet only one "her?" Well, this "her" loved my best friend instead of me (not saying it was their fault, just that my feelings were not returned). Makes this whole farce of "love" rather unappealing when one of its pillars turns out to be rather...false.

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2003-12-23, 4:06 AM #52
Ahhh, the truth about Wolfy comes out! He got burrrrrrned. Ah come on man, we've all been there! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

It is quite possible to love more than once in a lifetime, Wolfy. I dont mean to sound judgemental, but I would recommend not letting one bad occurrence ruin what could well be the greatest thing you will ever experience. I know you've made a conscious choice and I respect that, but declaring you will never fall in love again is like declaring you will never get an erection again, you just cant control these things! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2003-12-23, 6:12 AM #53
Sporks right, and just as Maeve said, we all face problems with love at young age, only to make us more careful and sensible next time you start falling for someone new. I should know more than anyone this is true. I met a girl 6 months ago, and fell helplessly in love with her, something I had never felt before. She seemed to care about me, but for reasons best explained by the ladder theory, she quickly lost interest in me, and I found out I was just the rebound after the guy she got dumped by 2 months before she met me.

S**tty? Hell yeh! But you live you learn.
I had only been around girls for one month before meeting someone. I'll meet someone else, and next time I'll act a hell of a lot smarter to avoid my feelings getting chrushed. Trust me it's worth it.

The way i see it, without a girl who loves me, my life is worth pretty much **** all.

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I never dreamed I'd loose someone like you."
Code:
if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}
2003-12-23, 9:07 AM #54
Unless you realize that you could devote your life to yourself and not some attention-needing whore.

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2003-12-23, 9:38 AM #55
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roach:
Unless you realize that you could devote your life to yourself and not some attention-needing whore.

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some of them can be nice though!

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2003-12-23, 9:57 AM #56
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spork:
...but declaring you will never fall in love again is like declaring you will never get an erection again, you just cant control these things! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]</font>


I never said I would never fall in love again - to say that I can deny feelings is like saying Firefox has a dragon in his backyard. I said I would never bother to pursue a relationship.

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the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2003-12-23, 10:35 AM #57
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My work here is done. And fortunately my wife doesn't come to massassi.

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2003-12-23, 11:23 AM #58
The ladder thing lost all credibility with me the minute he started quoting Nietzche.
In my book, that's the number one sign that you're being a pretentious fool.

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2003-12-23, 11:32 AM #59
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And for those who say "you have no idea what you are missing out on", that is a similar line from drug dealers. </font>


...I *cannot* believe that you just compared relationships to drugs. Holy crap. Did some girl slap you, or are you just bitter for the sake of being different?

Sex and love would be two good reasons to pursue a relationship. I can't understand why anyone would willingly resign themselves to a life of masturbation and lonliness.

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2003-12-23, 11:37 AM #60
I haven't really been paying attention to the conversation here, but the drug analogy is valid in the sense of sex...
(in my opinion)

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Do you have stairs in your house?
2003-12-23, 11:43 AM #61
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roach:
I seem to remember reading that men were never designed to be social creatures, so I'm having a hard time swallowing this.

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Exactly. We men were never designed to be social creatures. We don't socialize, we compete. We don't converse, we conqueor.

The only thing that has really changed about us since prehistoric times is that we now have much better technology. Back then, if someone hurt you, you would kill them.


Hunter 1: That's my mammoth. I killed it.

Hunter 2: No, it's my mammoth. I killed it bnefore you got here.

Hunter 1: Lets fight over it.

*they fight-- winner gets to keep mammoth, loser gets speared in fight and dies*


Today, if someone hurts you, you still want to hurt them back by sueing them and taking everything they have.

guy 1: That's my idea. I have the copyright on it.

guy 2: No, It's my idea. I came up with it before you did, and you copied me.

guy 1: I'll see you in court, you b@stard...

*They fight it out in court, loser must pay winner a large ammount of money*


It's really no different. We still think the same way, we just carry it out differently.




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2003-12-23, 11:45 AM #62
Speak for yourself, Pagewizard. I at least HOPE I'm not as shallow as the "every male" you just described..

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Do you have stairs in your house?
2003-12-23, 11:48 AM #63
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Exactly. We men were never designed to be social creatures. We don't socialize, we compete. We don't converse, we conqueor.</font>


You're psychotic.

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2003-12-23, 11:51 AM #64
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tracer:
You're psychotic.

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Nah, I'm just testosterone-driven and I understand human nature. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-12-23, 11:53 AM #65
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:

Nah, I'm just testosterone-driven. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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If testosterone is what makes a person's social skills equal to about that of grass, then yeah, you're certainly testosterone-driven.

Fortunately, I know of way too many social males to believe that that's true.

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Do you have stairs in your house?
2003-12-23, 12:03 PM #66
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by clan ruthervain:


The way i see it, without a girl who loves me, my life is worth pretty much **** all.

</font>


Exactly, its not that I want to get a gf to be cool or show off to my friends or to get me the remote when it falls from my hand... it is that i feel instinctly compelled to go out find someone. I really can't be more blunt then that but as someone else said I could not live a life of masterbation and lonliness. You should all go watch Family Man with Nicholas Cage you pretentious broken-hearted bast@ards!


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2003-12-23, 12:09 PM #67
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tracer:
Sex and love would be two good reasons to pursue a relationship. I can't understand why anyone would willingly resign themselves to a life of masturbation and lonliness.
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But I'm not 'resigning' myself, in the sense of "woe is me, no one will ever love, I'm always going to be lonely". I prefer being alone, I don't get lonely. While I do like meeting up with my friends, the majority of my time is spent alone, because thats what I prefer. And since the sex drive is =~0, I don't feel the need to seek out sexual activity of any kind (although no one ever believes me when I say that).

Most of the time I never bother explaining it since most people have trouble with being alone. It's not a reaction to anything, nor is it really a conscious choice, it's just the way it works (for me anyways). I didn't wake up one morning and say "Well shoot, I think I'll swear of relationships for good", I can't really put it down into words, but being involved with someone feels 'inappropriate/not right/uncomfortable' for me.
2003-12-23, 12:09 PM #68
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:


Fortunately, I know of way too many social males to believe that that's true.

</font>


Even in male social circles, there is always a leader. ( for the sake of conversation, I will refer to the leader as Alpha male)


The Alpha male is always the one who sets the trends, handles the problems, and commands respect through his actions. The alpha male is reliable in a situation, and although he is not actually considered to be the leader of the group, the other members subconsciously treat him as such and give him the respect that a leader is entitled to.

In prehistoric times, the alpha male would be a figure of importance in the tribe, such as the clan chieftain or the swiftest hunter, bravest warrior, etc.

The traits that an alpha male possessed back then included:

1. courage
2. Decisiveness
3. Resistance (in other words, never gives up)

4. High self esteem
5. Demands respect of others in order to give respect to them

It is not cooincidental that these traits are the indicators of high testosterone!



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2003-12-23, 12:13 PM #69
You most definately lost me. I'm not sure if it's because I couldn't find any situation in daily life where that little .. um... thingie would apply, or if it's because I couldn't figure out how on earth it was relevant to the topic at hand. X_x

Sorry if I just missed something. It's very possible, I do have a headache.

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2003-12-23, 12:14 PM #70
And, as we all know, reverting back to one's primal nature is the best course of action.

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the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2003-12-23, 12:17 PM #71
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> I really can't be more blunt then that but as someone else said I could not live a life of masterbation and lonliness. You should all go watch Family Man with Nicholas Cage you pretentious broken-hearted bast@ards!
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Single does not equal masturbation and loneliness. I have more interesting things to do than masturbate and since I don't get lonely, it isn't really an issue. Likewise relationship does not necessarily equal happiness for everyone.

I have seen the family man though, Cages' daughter was funny, even if the rest of the movie was kind of a soppy, schmaltz fest [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
2003-12-23, 12:25 PM #72
no sex drive, I would say you have some other hobbies that would stop or take over what was once ur sex drive. Be honest are you addicted to anything? And out of 10 for looks rate yourself? cuz honestly I have met people like you before and most of them were either a little homely [nice word for ugly] or overweight and insecure in the fact that if they did find someone they would not be up to your standards kind of like Shallow Hal. You are a very interesting fellow run.

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2003-12-23, 12:55 PM #73
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If I recall, you're abour 24(?), many people would say that you are crazy for getting married at such a "tender age".</font>


26, it's not -that- tender [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

I can understand coming to such a decision after being burnt in a relationship, but some of you seem to be swearing them off before experiencing it. I'm not trying to change anyone....just..well...hoping people keep their minds open to new possiblities if they arise.

If not then hey that's cool too, I think it is perfectly possible to live life without a partner and be content.

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2003-12-23, 1:15 PM #74
Y'know, before you swear off relationships for good, you really ought to think about more than just "I have time alone, I don't have to worry about anyone but myself."

I'm 22. I've dated once. And at this point, basically all my friends are settling down into serious relationships. In a few years I'm pretty sure most of the ones that aren't married will be. I'm having to deal with the fact that I'm probably going to feel like a third/fifth/seventh/(2n+1)th wheel. It feels funny. It feels like you're lacking something everyone else has and you'll never catch up.

I have tried the "I've resigned myself to being single" route. I am still trying it, but it's not without its difficulties. You can settle into that mode for a while, but if you ever do find someone you might want to have a relationship with, it's very hard to get back into that mode if it doesn't pan out. The whole "I am a rock, I am an island" mentality isn't necessarily healthy; you start repressing certain emotions and then you don't have them anymore when you want them.

On the other hand there are some advantages. The celibate life's been highly respected throughout a lot of history, though not quite so much now. It's a noble goal, but I get the feeling that any "swearing off relationships" should probably be a tenative thing, unless you have a very good reason to make it permanent.

Just my $0.02.
2003-12-23, 1:33 PM #75
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spork:

It is quite possible to love more than once in a lifetime, Wolfy. I dont mean to sound judgemental, but I would recommend not letting one bad occurrence ruin what could well be the greatest thing you will ever experience.</font>


Perhaps so, but sometimes too many bad experiences can cause someone to close their heart and have trouble opening it up to someone else again, or even make it impossible.



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2003-12-23, 3:00 PM #76
Wolfy's first post i tend to rather approve of/agree with.

I'm likely to either wind up marrying a rampant feminist, or becoming a monk.

But Ford told me to post an essaylet thing i wrote up as part of one of the soc102 essay exams i had. [some of you may recognise the points as ones i brought up some time ago in a thread abuot gay marriages and such]

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
Social Movements and Social Change -- 6::

From the earliest age, Americans [especially American families] are indoctrinated into the capitalist system of belief and economics. We are constantly encouraged and rewarded for our capitalistic tendencies, or criticized or shunned for straying too far from that ideal. What parent isn't indoctrinated into believing that on holidays or birthdays their worth as a parent is indicated by the value and quantity of gifts given to their children. Or if one has the means for an elaborate wedding and ornate wedding rings, and chooses instead something simpler and less expensive, it is often regarded with a sort of scepticism or distrust. Thrift or even miserliness are not traits we are socialized to admire or pass on to our children.

These things all are however decidedly limited or outright unavailable for homosexuals, especially homosexual couples. Adoption of children is far more difficult, even flatly denied to homosexual couples who wish to raise a child. Homosexual marriages are only legal in a scant handful of states. One of the obvious bases of those limitations is economics.

Heterosexual couples are encouraged to get married thereby:
-Receiving a break in taxes.
-Being allowed a bit more financial flexibility.
-Making starting a family a bit more financially feasible.
-Having children.
-Buying things for those children
-Raising those children generally to value / look forward to marriage.
-Thus starting the cycle over and contributing a growing and broadening consumer base.

Conversely, by generally not producing offspring or indoctrinating them into the so-called American Dream, Homosexuality is not generally viewed as generally being conducive either to population growth, economic increase, or general societal stability. As such homosexuals are actively discouraged from their lifestyles, and especially not to form relational partnerships. In response to this, many gay rights and special interest organizations have been set up with the hopes of presenting the opinions and self-interests of homosexual people in a hopefully non-threatening and rational manner. As well many grass-roots organizations have sprung up such as GSA's or Gay/Straight Alliances at high-schools to educate and dispel myths, to provide belonging and safety to the homosexual population at schools, and allow for comfortable integration and interaction with their straight allies and advocates.

In summation, to borrow a slogan my good friend Val and I came up with informally at the GSA we started at our high-school: "Heterosexuality is a Capitalist Plot."</font>


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2003-12-23, 4:19 PM #77
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dry gear the frog:

I would like to take this opportunity to point everyone in the direction of my sig.

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you win!



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2003-12-23, 6:48 PM #78
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The only documentation you'll ever need on female/male relationships: The Ladder Theory
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Yeah....if your a nerd with low self-esteem. You can not format attraction like that and it stereotypes women improperly.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I dunno, I think some of you are swearing off relationships way too quickly. I'm not saying you can't achieve happiness without being in a relationship...just don't go ruling it out altogether. I can understand feeling that way though as I did as well a few years ago.
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I have pretty much ruled out any kind of relationship at this point. I've dated, yet I can't find any woman that I can connect with on more than a physical level. Hell, I can go get a hooker for less money and it's faster.

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2003-12-23, 6:58 PM #79
And you always get what you want.

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The mental patient sits and stares.

0 of 14.
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2003-12-23, 7:03 PM #80
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
Perhaps so, but sometimes too many bad experiences can cause someone to close their heart and have trouble opening it up to someone else again, or even make it impossible.</font>


Throw in a deathly fear of physical contact and a fear that anything I confide in them will be later used against me, and...yeah...

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the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
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