No, I'm still pretty sure you wouldn't have refuted my source regardless of how I expressed it to you.

Yeah, that's what I was assuming too, however, according to my news articles it is an entirely different story. I just tried to babelfish it, but it comes out all Yoda-ish... haha. Let me translate it for you folks to make up for the lack of press coverage on your side of the ocean, haha

This article originally appeared on [url]www.nu.nl[/url]
This Dutch news site's news archives do not go far back, so I copy-paste articles that are interesting. Call me a news geek.

[quote=Dutch News Article]

According to a report that was published in February 2006 by two lawyers of suspected terrorists, more than half (55%) of some 500 suspected terrorists imprisoned on the American Navy Base in Guantanamo Bay did not commit any acts of hostility against the US.

The vast majority of people being held in Camp Delta have never been officially charged with anything, although many of them have been locked up for several years.

The two councillors have been closely studying documents of the American Government, about the argumentations against the suspects. Some turn out to be imprisoned based on suspected ties with organizations that do not appear on any official list of terrorist organizations. Only 8% percent of them are booked as 'Al Qaida warrior'.

The lawyers further write that of all the prisoners, only 7% have been arrested by the Americans themselves, or their allies.

Pakistan arrested 36% of the detainees, warlords of the Northern Alliance 11%. Of 44% of all the prisoners, it is unknown how they fell into American hands.

According to the lawyers, the Americans are offering huge rewards for arresting possible terrorists and enemy combatants. Often they pay first, and ask questions later. The reliability of the bounty hunters and the prisoners they turn in, are not sufficiently checked out, is their conclusion.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]There have been innocents taken prisoner in Gitmo, not just "terrists".[/QUOTE]

Yup.

And I have another article which describes 13/14 year olds being detained there as well. Another violation of international law.

Ok, the 55% number is stagering, and that so many were detained by Afghani and Pakistani forces. There are a lot of issues that crop up with that immediately. The potential for people they don't like being detained for no legitimate reason is far too high.

However, with regards to true enemy combatants, captured on the battlefield, I'm not going to change my stance



I'm more than willing to admit when I'm wrong about something, or further educate myself if I lack information.

There's more where that came from... I wish there was an easier way to translate all these articles.

FDR as worst president?

****, you guys are idiots. I don't even pretend to know or care much about American history, but I know that Lincoln, Washington and Roosevelt are considered the 'big three' by historians. How the **** do you think America, or anywhere, would have gotten out of the Great Depression without 'socialistic policies'?

That's the thing though, his social programs actually did very little to end the depression. He created jobs and tried to get money in people's pockets so it could be spent, but the public didn't respond the way he hoped. Not really his fault. The war time economy probably did more to end the depression, and FDR wanted to get the US involved a lot sooner, but again, the public wouldn't have it. Regardless of all that, he was quite successful at keeping the public's morale up in very difficult times, and that's not an easy thing to do.