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Macintosh Marketing
2006-07-19, 3:59 PM #41
moot moot moot moot

Oh and arguing over iPods is moot.
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2006-07-19, 4:02 PM #42
I wasn't aware a 6 billion dollar a year market was moot :p
D E A T H
2006-07-19, 6:08 PM #43
Heh, I find it funny how I was reading this thread on a Mac in class today and while working in image ready and photoshop, Both programs crashed and I was forced to shut them down. Macs stable my ***, lawl :D
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2006-07-19, 8:58 PM #44
Originally posted by SavageX378:
Heh, I find it funny how I was reading this thread on a Mac in class today and while working in image ready and photoshop, Both programs crashed and I was forced to shut them down. Macs stable my ***, lawl :D


I use Photoshop and its never crashed on my Mac. The only programs I have used that have crashed are the newer betas of Adium and Firefox, and to the Mac's defense, they're betas.
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2006-07-19, 9:26 PM #45
The "fun" add pisses me off, since it's stating that Apple computers are more "fun" than Windows ones. As we are all well aware: this is a retarded statement because Macs have no games.

OSX will never be a serious contender in the game market simply because of the performance issue. Let's compare for a second here: Windows XP and MacOS X Tiger both use a hybrid/microkernel design. The NT kernel is blisteringly fast. Mach isn't. Couple that with ATI's troubled track record making UNIX drivers, and installing Windows XP on your MBP will net you about double the framerate in a lot of games.

And I don't have a link for this, but last year a company did a code audit of OSX and found an enormous number of horrible, debilitating security holes. The last time I heard, Apple hadn't fixed any of them.
2006-07-19, 9:37 PM #46
Originally posted by tinny:
Yep, plus i've heard they crash less and the newer os's even though powerful are not resource hogs like the upcoming vista. I gotta have windows though for the games :D


Yay for speculation. Vista doesn't use all that much more memory than XP (I think I noticed about a 30 meg difference between XP and Vista running Aero using a similar set of programs), and a pretty big amount of the composition engine work is taken off the CPU when Aero is running. For pure desktop performance it's not that bad right now. You've also got to remember that a lot of stuff running has been compiled in debug mode, so that's taking up a little more space as well.

As far as PC stability goes, umm, yeah, I've not had one of my systems have complete hard crash in years that wasn't caused by some hardware problem. Stability wise, XP and 2000 before it are very solid. A large majority of your problems come from hardware or third-party software.
2006-07-19, 9:45 PM #47
Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast:
I use Photoshop and its never crashed on my Mac. The only programs I have used that have crashed are the newer betas of Adium and Firefox, and to the Mac's defense, they're betas.

Photoshop has crashed so many times on me on G4 iBooks AND G5 towers. Illustrator too.
D E A T H
2006-07-19, 9:52 PM #48
Imagine it on some first gen eMacs. I had to administer a lab with about 30 of them (and 2 Powermac G4s) at one point. Constantly having to reboot them, kill a stuck program, etc. And then just waiting on their general slow suckiness since they're such horrible machines.

Rainbow pinwheel of death!
2006-07-19, 10:32 PM #49
God that would suck.
D E A T H
2006-07-19, 10:45 PM #50
Yeah, they're really no fun. I guess they're going on 4 years old now, and they more than show their age. Even though I don't have to worry about working there anymore, part of me wants to walk in and see some brand new iMacs in there. Maybe it will happen this year since Apple discontinued the eMac and replaced it with an iMac model available only to educational institutions to fill the eMac's price slot. Not like the school doesn't have the money for it... Of course the PC labs are all kept pretty up-to-date, haha. Just have to keep the Macs around for those classes that require Mac only software.
2006-07-20, 1:35 AM #51
Its amazing what happens when some people run Disk Util and find all their permissions are screwed over, NEVER in 8 years has any of my machines kernal panicked even the demo ones with all the kids playing with them, and Photoshop, Illustrator, Final Cut studio have still never kernal panicked, its called poor maintenance and TLC on the users/administrators part, restore it, do an archive restore and all these issues just disappear.
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2006-07-20, 1:44 AM #52
Originally posted by MBeggar:
yay!


PVP wins.
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2006-07-20, 1:44 AM #53
no, hamburgers win.
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2006-07-20, 1:51 AM #54
Oh.
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2006-07-20, 9:01 AM #55
Originally posted by Anakin-Paul:
Its amazing what happens when some people run Disk Util and find all their permissions are screwed over, NEVER in 8 years has any of my machines kernal panicked even the demo ones with all the kids playing with them, and Photoshop, Illustrator, Final Cut studio have still never kernal panicked, its called poor maintenance and TLC on the users/administrators part, restore it, do an archive restore and all these issues just disappear.

No, it's called "Macs aren't perfect" fanboy.
D E A T H
2006-07-20, 10:33 AM #56
Chill your boots Yoshi - if you let fanboyism wind you up (present here or not) you'll only end up getting banninated again.
2006-07-20, 10:33 AM #57
I hate Windows, Linux, OSX, and computers in general. A plague on your houses.
2006-07-20, 10:36 AM #58
Originally posted by Martyn:
Chill your boots Yoshi - if you let fanboyism wind you up (present here or not) you'll only end up getting banninated again.

You're not my father, stop acting like it.

Despite that, Anakin works for Apple...there's never been a finer (or worse?) show of fanboyism as he has shown in the past.
D E A T H
2006-07-20, 10:39 AM #59
Running both XP and OSX here. Both run fine.

And Martyn's right. The Mac is 10x quicker to get up and running out of the box.
2006-07-20, 10:40 AM #60
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]You're not my father, stop acting like it.[/QUOTE]
No he's right. Keep acting like this and you will be banned.

So chill.
Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.
2006-07-20, 11:04 AM #61
Then let me be banned. You, too, are not my father.
D E A T H
2006-07-20, 11:22 AM #62
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2006-07-20, 11:33 AM #63
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]You, too, are not my father.[/QUOTE]
Apparently I am, you seem to treat me like some kind of father figure. Maybe it's because you're "poor" from the "ghetto" and your dad died in a "rap fued" so now you look up to me because you know I'm smarter than you.

...hey, it wasn't my theory.
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2006-07-20, 11:54 AM #64
...

What?
D E A T H
2006-07-20, 11:59 AM #65
QUICK BUST HIS LIP OPEN
2006-07-20, 12:12 PM #66
http://people.howstuffworks.com/fight-club-news.htm
2006-07-20, 3:07 PM #67
Yoshi, you're what? 19? 18? I'm trying to give you objective advice from a few years down the line where you *really* *REALLY* grow up. I thought I'd stopped growing up at 18, but it's just not the case. I'm trying not to be patronising, and if I am I'm sorry - but if you keep acting like your view is the only one that matters you're going to hit trouble. Yes it's an internet forum, and yes it barely matters a bit, but just maybe try to realise that agreeing to disagree is the best and biggest thing you can manage is a good thing.

Like I say, sorry if I come off as a patronising git, but that's the way it is.
2006-07-20, 3:11 PM #68
Marty, you can be my father since Yoshi won't let you be his.
2006-07-20, 3:15 PM #69
only if you say "you're the daddy"
2006-07-20, 3:16 PM #70
you can be my weekend dad, take me to mcdonalds and buy me a pint every sunday!
2006-07-20, 3:17 PM #71
You're on!
2006-07-20, 3:18 PM #72
Originally posted by Martyn:
Yoshi, you're what? 19? 18? I'm trying to give you objective advice from a few years down the line where you *really* *REALLY* grow up. I thought I'd stopped growing up at 18, but it's just not the case. I'm trying not to be patronising, and if I am I'm sorry - but if you keep acting like your view is the only one that matters you're going to hit trouble. Yes it's an internet forum, and yes it barely matters a bit, but just maybe try to realise that agreeing to disagree is the best and biggest thing you can manage is a good thing.

Like I say, sorry if I come off as a patronising git, but that's the way it is.

Uh huh. I'm sorry all-knowing massa!

Ne'er will disobey again, tank you massa.

Glad to know someone knows everything.
D E A T H
2006-07-20, 3:22 PM #73
Am I bothered? Bothered? Me? No? Anyone? Bothered?

If you want my opinion I think you're ok - not that I think you do, but if you want to spend your formative years acting like a spanner then I won't stop you - *shrug*
2006-07-20, 3:31 PM #74
Did I ask if you were bothered?

Also, spanner?
D E A T H
2006-07-20, 3:31 PM #75
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Uh huh. I'm sorry all-knowing massa!

Ne'er will disobey again, tank you massa.

Glad to know someone knows everything.[/QUOTE]
Y'know, I think I've given considerable lee-way. It ends now. You can come back when you're not pissed off at the world.
Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.
2006-07-20, 3:55 PM #76
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Did I ask if you were bothered?

Also, spanner?[/QUOTE]

Not that I expect you to read/respond, but for anyone who comes here from the BANLIST it's an Engish thing - both spanners and bothered.

Nevermind :o
2006-07-20, 4:04 PM #77
Originally posted by Martyn:
Am I bothered? Bothered? Me? No? Anyone? Bothered?

If you want my opinion I think you're ok - not that I think you do, but if you want to spend your formative years acting like a spanner then I won't stop you - *shrug*

Yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but *SMACK* :mad:
2006-07-20, 4:08 PM #78
NO!

Different entirely!!!!!

SILLYBOI!
2006-07-20, 4:09 PM #79
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Uh huh. I'm sorry all-knowing massa!

Ne'er will disobey again, tank you massa.

Glad to know someone knows everything.[/QUOTE]


You know, coming from someone who lords his age over people who are less than a year older than him, this is a bit much.
2006-07-20, 4:10 PM #80
Originally posted by Martyn:
NO!

Different entirely!!!!!

SILLYBOI!

That's just what it made me think of. You're not my father! Don't censor me!
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