And so I actually contribute something to this thread..

Obi, get off your ****ing high-horse. Yeah, people who use "gay" as a standard description are dumb, but so are 90% of teenagers these days. You know damn well that you only started this thread so you could say "homosexuality is wrong" and let the flamewar roll, knowing that some people here are. I echo my statement from comments about Iraq; WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. Just deal with it and move on.

I hope you all get cancer.

You fags.

Because God says it's wrong.

Lolar.

Oh, really? Where's your doctoral thesis about this? Where did you do the research? Where have you proven this?

You haven't?

Oh. I forgot for a moment that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Gay people are not bad. They are not your enemy. They are not sinners. You are nothing but a frightened, threatened husk of a person who cannot bear change and is afraid of what he does not know.

I think flaming Gold is unneccessary here, Emon. He is simply following the opinions of his religion, or however he perceives them to be.

It is NOT that difficult!!

goodness, people, I know that guys always have sex on the brain and I know that their peak is around 18 so it's even more difficult but jeez, you're not a bunch of rabbits in heat!

also:


really? what happened to God being the only judge? When did He ever give you leave to judge? What happened to "Let he who hath no sin cast the first stone"?

No, if I flamed him I would have made a baseless accusation about his sexual preference or desire to fornicate his mother. Instead, I was merely stating a fact.

He doesn't even know anything about religion.

I re-evaluate my assessment of the thread.

"Y'all niggas is gay"
-The Boondocks.

There's a very distinct difference between having sex with someone and falling in love with some one. Guess what; you can't help falling in love. You can, however, decide not to have sex.

The whole "gay people choose to be gay" nonsense has been bothering me even since I was a little kid. If people choose to be gay, they would also choose to face the consequences. These consequences, in short, suck. Being beaten up by some crackheads (in our very own capital, Amsterdam) because you walk hand in hand with your boyfriend? I'd love that, yeah. Being ignored, disregarded or just plain insulted by christian extremists? Ohh, sounds like fun.



I see. Clearly, reading something in a book, hearing it froma pastor/parent/teacher or more likely finding it on internet, equals 'thinking'? And does that give you the right to judge the people (because, yes, you are judging the people) by one feature that might apply to them? Stop thinking that's cool, really. Gay people are, in the end, people.


Oh, and a completely other thing: The Bible states that (translated from the Dutch Bible next to me, might not be literally) 'a man is not to sleep with another man as he is to sleep with a woman'. Maybe God didn't want people to have anal sex with chicks?

My God hates what is evil, but loves all that is good and does forgive if you look for it. If you do not repent and look for his forgiveness, he will not forgive you, but none the less, he still will love you.

You know its funny. I was always the "no girlfriend" or "never getting married" type of guy. Some how I thought that not getting involved in relationships would save me a lot of trouble, and I was right, but it also takes away alot of nice things. I think I am attracted to a woman sexually simply because I know my organs were made and ment for hers and vice versa. Of course, the organs which resemble more volume or more sharpness/perfection are of more provocation and therefore of more desire. In short, I am attracted to the opposite sex simply because we were ment to be. But I have NEVER dated a girl just because of her body. NEVER.

EDIT: Please don't post anything until I catch up with the thread.

"Well, if theres one thing black man can do it's cook."

"Which isn't to say that a white man can't cook better, his big brain just too busy thinking about more important things. Like Spaceships, and war."

-Uncle Ruckus, no relation.

You're right Emon, sorry. I still think he has a right to believe what he wants, whether he knows anything about it or not.

People are born into sin by default, it's not something that you fall to at some point in your life. It's also pointless to try to attain righteousness before God with good works.

God is forgiving towards you only if you place your faith in Jesus. Otherwise, people are separated from God. Before God can love and forgive us, justice for sin must be served or else God would be violating His own holy standard. You can either a. Have Jesus pay for your sins by His shed blood and live under grace, or b. pay for your own sins by going to hell forever.

Since when does something need to be genetically linked to do it? I don't at all pretend that being bisexual is "natural," it's just that if you ask me, I don't discriminate. It isn't natural or unnatural, it's my preference.

And I'd understand your logic if, you know, screwing people in the butt effected anyone but those people who were either being, or were doing the butt screwing. But hey, since the bible gives you the ability to know what God thinks (God thinking, in itself, is cute.) you probably don't want to let people do what they want!

Basically:
If you don't believe in abortions, don't get one.
If you don't believe in buttsex, don't give or get it, or sleep over at my house.

And a third evaluation.

"Nigga hush"
-The Boondocks

For the good of the cause:

Gay men respond to male pheremones the same way women do:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/10/science/10smell.html?ex=1273377600&en=cc4056b5bf851ac9&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Homosexuality shows an inheritance trend, perhaps related to female fertility
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3735668.stm

I agree completely. I'm just stating how much I think his believes are a crock of ****.

Robert 'Granddad' Freeman: For example, did you know that the new white man loves gourmet cheese?
Huey Freeman: Wait... I'm sorry. Did you say "cheese"?
Robert 'Granddad' Freeman: Yup, cheese. You give the meanest white man a piece of cheese, he turn into Mr. Rogers
Huey Freeman: Granddad, you can't tame the white supremacist power structure with cheese!

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner folks!

First, I'm not referring the general usage, which does annoy me. I'm referring the the 13 and 14 year olds who giggle for hours about calling random things gay.

And your wrong and the second one, too, I just felt like ranting. I game my opinion as an example of how I can opposing homosexuality without being a total jerk about it.

Granddad: Hold on there, Slickback.
A Pimp Named Slickback: No, it's A Pimp Named Slickback.
Granddad: That's what I said. Slickback.
A Pimp Named Slickback: No, it's "A Pimp Named Slickback." Like A Tribe Called Quest; you say the whole thing: "A Pimp Named Slickback"!
Granddad: Can't I just call you "Slickback" for short?
A Pimp Named Slickback: No, nigga! It's "A Pimp Named Slickback!"
Granddad: Cristal, who is this person?
A Pimp Named Slickback: Nigga, are you deaf? I'm A Pimp Named Slickback! Say it with me now!

Calling random things "gay" IS the annoying general usage.

Parodoxical statement.

It's parrot boy!




The first part is some sort of sad attempt to retaliate at something you erroniously assume I think/do.

I don't even follow the second part.

Mock or flame me some more. It'll make a diffrence.

"Oh, really? Where's your doctoral thesis about this? Where did you do the research? Where have you proven this?"
Unbiased biolagical article with scientific mumbo jumbo, but perfectly clear and understandable regarding past investigations that tried to make homosexuality scientificaly explainable. http://www.newdirection.ca/a_biol.htm Oh and there are many others with a different set of words but the same message.

"Oh. I forgot for a moment that you have no idea what you're talking about."

No sir, you have no idea what you're talking about, and never have.

"Gay people are not bad. They are not your enemy. They are not sinners. You are nothing but a frightened, threatened husk of a person who cannot bear change and is afraid of what he does not know."

As a person, no, they may not be bad.
However, the bible clearly says that it condemns men who would sleep with men as a if sleeping with a woman and women who sleep with women as if sleeping with a man. The bible also says that any one who is not with God, is therefore his enemy, and therefore ours.

"Really? what happened to God being the only judge? When did He ever give you leave to judge? What happened to "Let he who hath no sin cast the first stone"?"

I do not judge people as I do not pass sentence upon them. I only carry and pass on the message that was given to us by God, because we are commanded to as God wants all to know him. I will never incite violence or discrimination again, as I have in the past, but have recently learned that, that is not the way to solve these issues. I am not a religious nut, who marches around the world with sticks and torches trying to rid what I consider evil and neither is my religion of such genre.

404 is an AMAZING unbiased source. I think it's the "Error" that really set it off.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]404 is an AMAZING unbiased source. I think it's the "Error" that really set it off.[/QUOTE]

Fixed link.

I'm curious: does anyone have any real reason to oppose homosexuality other than religion?

Have you ever noticed that alot of cited resources on things like the evil of prefering to take it in the *** from another man, masturbating or porn are often from research done during the 1930s-1950s?

I mean seriously. Like a bunch of uptight *******s from an era where a white dude couldn't even hook up with some FOIN black honey are going to tell me what is wrong?

Uhhm no. Sorry.

So you've been observing me, all 20 years of my life?

You know, I hope there IS an afterlife. Like a big white void, where all dead people go. That way I can laugh at idiots like you for being suckering into inane beliefs.

But go on dreaming. Keep thinking there's an all powerful, loving being in the sky who cares about you. I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.

Hmm... genetic predisposition to hating gays?



50-60 years ain't that long. Mock all you want, I don't care.

I am lesbian. Therefore i am gay. There's nothing wrong with hot lesbians tho, is there?

-GC

you said that you hate what god hates - hating someone is passing judgment.

ringmaster, not that I have ever heard of

Yes. It's evil in it's purist form. The thought of two men having sexual intercourse is more appauling than a man raping a child. I hate fags.

I'm almost quoting a female I know. It's scary.

Evil? And just what the heck is that?

there's nothing sexier than two muscular, sweaty men banging each others and then shooting their sperm on their faces and licking it off.. yummy. i'll go searching for gay porn now.

-GC

And you need a new sarcasm meter.

Hell, did you even read the next part of my post?

Did you...read his post?

[m-m-m-monster post]

You need a new sarcasm detector.

Holy crap, my bad I thought gold posted that.

Editing... >.>

/feels hella dumb

i am very out of it and need to go to bed