Ok, I'm keeping this short and simple. I've considered the ability of putting the Matrix mod into another game engine, although, the problem is, I would have to release the game as a stand alone instead of a mod. The thing here is, I don't think WB is going to like a free matrix game that anyone can get. I know that theres fair use and all, but I need some legal advice before I continue with this.

No. Its not.

Why does it need to be stand alone?
[You sig suxorz]

The matrix...unplugged?

No, this is something different.

Though, I miss Matrix Unplugged mod. THat had some good content.

As long as you're not selling the game, and as long as you're not using data/info/skins/etc from another game, I don't think it would be illegal.

Even if it was, it would be free advertising.. *shrug*

Sharing your derivative works or publicly displaying them qualifies as copyright infringement. Creating derivative works for your own enjoyment is not copyright infringement.

The only way the Matrix mod could be released without being subject to WB's copyrights (and this is if it were released in any form, even as a mod for a Star Wars game) is if it were an obvious parody of the Matrix and not a derivative work.

The decision of whether or not to enforce a copyright is entirely up to the holder of the copyright. WB may choose not to pursue litigation against SF_GoldG_01 because it would lead to bad publicity. On the other hand, however, if a company does not defend their copyrights then they tend to lose control of them in future instances.

Why?

From what I've learned in the "ethics and legalities" class, anything that uses material that is copyrighted (made for profit or not) is ILLEGAL. Hell, it's consider illegal to play a movie in a public sitting (like in the waiting room at the dentist) without getting approval from the film makers. Copyrights really are strict like that yet not many people know about it.

It might be illegal, but copyright holders might or might not "take action," especially considering 1) (like dud said) positive viral marketing effects and 2) the amount of time, effort, and money it would take to go after every infraction compared w/ the benefits of said viral marketing.

But is it worth the risk?

Well..nevermind. If he's caught, he can just flee to America, change his name to "Emillio Razza" and work for WB doing cheap labor.

IE the smith stunt doubles...

And neo when he falles off the building...

Maybe you should be the neo stunt double when he falls off of a building, TE!

If it's stand alone, you'll have to use a free engine. I think you could use Q3.

I wouldn't worry about it.

You're not going to release anything anyways.

The reason why it would be stand alone is because I'm not modding an actual game, I'm using the engine itself which I payed for. I won't name the engine at this moment, but it was made in blitz basic, so yeah its slow, (still faster than JK though!). If this thing ever sees the light it will be totally different. The combat will be RPG contrary to FPS or Action pace. It will NOT feature any of the original character, perhaps at most "The Oracle". I'm not going to release anything until later next year.

Also, keep this in mind. I did NOT buy this engine for the purpose of making this mod. I bought for the purpose of devolping a game without programming knowledge. Ironicaly, this got me very interested in programming and now I can script, and I bet if I tried I could do COG now. I plan on tackling Blitz Basic next year when I get the source code to the engine after a 2nd payment. Currently the engine uses direct x 7, by the end of this year I will get a new version that uses direct x 9, and has dynamic lights and shadows along with bump mapping. I'm really happy I bought it at the right time.

So you may ask, why bother putting the matrix mod in this engine?
1.- I found that editing is much easier with the engine and the editors that came with it.
2.- It will be almost effortless to convert most of whats already done on the mod, however, I've also considered restarting from scratch.
3.-The engine is more advanced than JK and also more accesible, thus facilitated this.

Does that answer your questions?

1 -- I wasn't talking about his case in particular.
2 -- That shot was kinda uncalled for :p

Do you really enjoy wasting money you claim you don't have on crap?

The same money you claim you need to save your family and out of work father from the certain peril of the mexican economy?




Please stop wasting everyone's time.

Interesting. I retract my statement.

I spent 1 month raising that money, with my eye fixed on that engine. That hamburger idea was a waste of time. Also the engine was pretty cheap, 55 dollars, but the price will go up when the render engine is updated, so I'm happy with my choice. I'm making a game and I plan to profit from it. As I played around with the engine I saw how my Matrix mod could actually be converted to this engine, but I doubt its worth my time as I'm really in this for the money.

HAHAHA.


A $55 game engine.



Like I said, a crap waste of money that could feed your poor underappreciated father and fix your crumbling house etc. etc.

****, $55 would buy a pretty decent amount of food. (If you aren't an idiot and know how to shop)


You. Are. Not. Going. To. Make. Money. On. Anything. You. Put. On. A. $55. Game engine.


Seriously.


Unless you invent some methodically addictive puzzle game for a hand held device, you aren't going to very far with these endeavors.


Wise up.

jesus, gold, why do you keep trolling with this modding/game engine ****?

Because thats what I really do, and I have screenshots to prove it.

Rob: The engine will most likely raise to over 100 dollars by the end of the year when the new rendering engine comes out, but I will get the update for free simply because I bought it at the right time.

$100 game engine written in Blitz Basic versus $2 million game engine written in C++.

Which is better guys?

Edit:

Read that wrong...



YOU still aren't going to make any money from it.

If you knew what type of engine it was, you'd understand why the graphics are kind of low, in my game, gameplay is everything, and when I get dynamic light and shadows along with bumpmapping, I will be very happy, and it will look MUCH better.

It can be done, and apparently it has been. I'll try, and this team, I'm not depending on anyone who can fail me. This time I'm incharge.

Hahaha.

You have no friggin clue at all.

Within a week or two, you'll see some early WIP of ingame screenshots, and 3D models. I've already surpassed JK by a long shot, and I can say that my graphics can rival mount&blade, and with the new release I'll try rivaling JO.

You mean you found some easy model generator and found a bunch of other people's models to use.

This is completely ridiculous. Why do you even make a thread like this? Or have not not figured out how people are going to respond? Seriously.

agreed X 10000000000000

With the recent trend, I'd generally bash the hell out of gold for the fun of it.

But for Christ's sake guys. HE ASKED A QUESTION, GIVE HIM A ANSWER. You don't NEED to know what it's for to give him an answer, now do you? And don't tell me "Well he can't be trusted, he's lied to us in the past, this'll never fly" and all that.

And if his threads are so stupid, don't click them Rob. Same with you Freelancer.

GET. THE HELL. OFF OF GOLD. I don't mind bashing like what we did to Freelancer (No Offense freelancer, that was all in good fun. Albeit, at your expense). THIS is uncalled for.

And Rob, I don't find this a waste of time. I'm somewhat anxious to see what he turns out, because if it's real (DON'T go there) I'll be happy that he finally did something on his own.

Stop with the automatic gold bashing.

Well, it's just that this is about the 47th or 48th time he's done the EXACT same troll thread. It gets REALLY old, REALLY quickly.

It's not that I don't like his threads.


It's that I personally want him drummed out of life with a pnuematic hammer.

Because it seems this is deja vu all over again.

I don't remember him asking if making a Matrix mod/game would be illegal without WB's consent before...

This isn't the exact same thread, shut the hell up. Yeah, I'm a bit doubtful myself actually, but if he finally PULLS THROUGH WITH IT, then good for him. Do you have any idea how many different engines I've tried to mod/map for, or model in? 5 or 6 engines or modelling programs, atleast. But just becasue I failed miserably at each one, yet didn't make a thread about it you guys aren't going to bash me. It's the same thing, just a slightly smaller scale.

I've had visions of grandeur prematurely, that MAY be all this is. But whatever.

Hmm. Sometimes I felt the same way about you Rob. I sincerely doubt you act this same way in real life. I act slightly differently in real life. Gold most likely acts differently in real life. So how about we stop with the death threats, mmk?

Oh, and Echoman? How about we try to change the thread this time? Bash him for somethign DIFFERENT than stealing stuff/not completing it. It's pretty sad when you turn each thread the same way.

Okay then. Can we see this engine in question (and the lincensing agreements of course)?

I thought he said he'd have WIPs up in a couple weeks? Give him time, he may have just bought it.

If he just bought it, can we atleast see the website he made the purchase from?