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2006-08-22, 9:56 PM #41
Originally posted by Zloc_Vergo:
Hmm. Sometimes I felt the same way about you Rob. I sincerely doubt you act this same way in real life. I act slightly differently in real life. Gold most likely acts differently in real life. So how about we stop with the death threats, mmk?



I'm a pretty big ******* in real life.


Also cleansing the gene pool != Death threats
2006-08-22, 10:11 PM #42
Originally posted by Zloc_Vergo:
I thought he said he'd have WIPs up in a couple weeks? Give him time, he may have just bought it.

[CENTER]LOL[/CENTER]
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2006-08-22, 10:13 PM #43
Originally posted by Zloc_Vergo:
I don't remember him asking if making a Matrix mod/game would be illegal without WB's consent before...

This isn't the exact same thread, shut the hell up. Yeah, I'm a bit doubtful myself actually, but if he finally PULLS THROUGH WITH IT, then good for him. Do you have any idea how many different engines I've tried to mod/map for, or model in? 5 or 6 engines or modelling programs, atleast. But just becasue I failed miserably at each one, yet didn't make a thread about it you guys aren't going to bash me. It's the same thing, just a slightly smaller scale.

I've had visions of grandeur prematurely, that MAY be all this is. But whatever.



Then the lesson that should be taken from posting dozen of "This is my new project" threads that lead no where would be to post stuff after something's been acomplished rather tahn making a new thread for every new idea that pops up.
Pissed Off?
2006-08-22, 10:14 PM #44
Originally posted by Avenger:
Then the lesson that should be taken from posting dozen of "This is my new project" threads that lead no where would be to post stuff after something's been acomplished rather tahn making a new thread for every new idea that pops up.


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"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2006-08-22, 10:18 PM #45
By the way, Gold; I'll bet you, literally, ($25 USD) that you'll never finish this "game" OR (yes, that's an or) your star wars CGI movie. And it's a one-sided bet, too. If you happen to finish either, I will honestly send you twenty-five dollars, but if you don't, you lose nothing.

I am one-hundred percent confident that I will win.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2006-08-23, 1:30 AM #46
Originally posted by Avenger:
Then the lesson that should be taken from posting dozen of "This is my new project" threads that lead no where would be to post stuff after something's been acomplished rather tahn making a new thread for every new idea that pops up.


Your post reminded me of this, though I doubt I was the only one to think of this ...

Quote:
You must be able to see it Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now. You can't win, it's pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why do you persist?
2006-08-23, 1:30 AM #47
Is the original topic still part of the thread? I had to learn a lot about copyright stuff earlier in the year myself.

I think JonC summed up a lot of what you need to know. It's easy for a company or party to claim copyright infringement for little things, but most likely won't bother with you, unless you're project becomes very well known around the web. If they do take notice, I would suspect the turning point would be right around when and if you started profiting off of your project (site donations can be considered revenue), as you'd be profitting off of someone elses work that yours was derived from. And I doubt there's any way you'd be able to pay royalties to WB. If you are outside the US as some have mentioned, it might get trickier, but any further answers are at [url]www.copyright.gov[/url] (its actually a very informative site).

Bottom line: If you wanna make a small Matrix Mod with your own engine, go for it, but be prepared to quit while you're ahead. If you wanna profit off of a matrix game, you're wasting your time.
2006-08-23, 1:58 AM #48
To avoid the law just make a mod with the same principles but different stuff.

You could call it the Gaytrix and everyone discovers thier in plugged into a fake world via an anal plug and once they know this they can jump really high and dodge bullets. The nemises would be the Gaygents who are attempting to alter everyones sexuality.

Obviously you would be playing as The Won alongside a bald black man called Fishbourne. Both of you would be extreamly homophobic of course.

You would spend your missions smashing up gay people and fighting Gaygents. Fishbourne would get caught by the Gaygents and they attempt to alter his sexuality with anal stimulants but you would come to his rescue and find out you really are the Won.

In the games conclude with you heading to the Machine Gayframe and showing the head machine just how out of control Gaygent Smith has become.

You would then fight to bring and end to the war.
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2006-08-23, 5:17 AM #49
Originally posted by Avenger:
This is completely ridiculous. Why do you even make a thread like this? Or have not not figured out how people are going to respond? Seriously.


What the hell, Avenger. You are basically telling him to stop posting topics 'because he knows what will happen if he does'.

It's almost a threat. And it's a really twisted thing to say because you're just turning things around. It's basically saying that he should take it for granted that the community here is a bunch of socially inadequate elitists who won't pass up any chance to bash the hell out of people they can't stand. And so he should stop posting.

NO.

He's asking a question, and you're supposed to be answering it, or in any case, positively contribute to the topic.

He asked a question, it's really that simple.

If you have an answer, provide it. If you don't, or if you can't stand Gold and his topics, stay out.
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-08-23, 6:08 AM #50
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
and with the new release I'll try rivaling JO.


Surely your $55 engine will be able to compete with an updated version of Carmack's code.

Oh wait.
2006-08-23, 7:07 AM #51
hehe car-mack
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2006-08-23, 8:16 AM #52
I like car-mack&cheese
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-08-23, 9:24 AM #53
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
What the hell, Avenger. You are basically telling him to stop posting topics 'because he knows what will happen if he does'.

It's almost a threat. And it's a really twisted thing to say because you're just turning things around. It's basically saying that he should take it for granted that the community here is a bunch of socially inadequate elitists who won't pass up any chance to bash the hell out of people they can't stand. And so he should stop posting.

NO.

He's asking a question, and you're supposed to be answering it, or in any case, positively contribute to the topic.

He asked a question, it's really that simple.

If you have an answer, provide it. If you don't, or if you can't stand Gold and his topics, stay out.


No, I'm not telling him to stop. I'm suggesting that the threads have actual content. E everytime a thread like this comes up, it's this huge project that's going to be awesome when it's done. The only problem is that nothing ever gets done. There is never any follow up with any kind of content. There's just another grand idea that goes nowhere. This community is tired of it. Does that warrant bashing? No, but I didn't bash Gold. He wouldn't open himself up to a lot crap if it wasn't a revolving door of threads like this.
Pissed Off?
2006-08-23, 10:46 AM #54
Why doesn't everyone just shut up and remove the lumber from your rectum if you're not answering the man's question? You're all sending these ****ing forums straight up **** creek. I've been wishing Brian really had ****ing deleted them. ****ing christ, you guys are hot ****ing ****. and a few more ****s and ****s for the road you *******s.

You're all a bunch of ***** (and that set of *s begins with c). ****ers.
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2006-08-23, 10:53 AM #55
**** yeah!
2006-08-23, 11:02 AM #56
Originally posted by Alan:
You're all sending these ****ing forums straight up **** creek.

Define: Irony...
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2006-08-23, 11:07 AM #57
Originally posted by Emon:
Define: Irony...


LET THE ****ING SARCASM WAR BEGIN.

i‧ro‧ny1  /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/
Pronunciation[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
–noun, plural -nies.

1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature.
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony.
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.
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2006-08-23, 11:09 AM #58
This one's witty.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2006-08-23, 11:22 AM #59
Gold please for the love of massassi!

POST ATLEAST ONE SCREENSHOT!

PLEASE! PLEASE! You will end some of your problems right then!
But you won't... Because its "Unfinished"

Post a pic and end your problems.
2006-08-23, 11:29 AM #60
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
Gold please for the love of massassi!

POST ATLEAST ONE SCREENSHOT!

PLEASE! PLEASE! You will end some of your problems right then!
But you won't... Because its "Unfinished"

Post a pic and end your problems.



Posting a screenshot of work that may be valid doesn't erase the fact that he stole work before.


He will never be accepted in this community.
2006-08-23, 11:55 AM #61
Realistically speaking, Rob is correct. All I ever saw of Gold's "work" was a folder tree and a "high poly" model of a morning star for a zelda mod (which i believe was said to be from morrowind). Then again, I wasn't able to find the thread, so i could be wrong.

Standard 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome. It's in human nature to be distrustful. How do you think we survivded all these ****ing years?
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2006-08-23, 12:31 PM #62
Originally posted by Alan:
Realistically speaking, Rob is correct. All I ever saw of Gold's "work" was a folder tree and a "high poly" model of a morning star for a zelda mod (which i believe was said to be from morrowind). Then again, I wasn't able to find the thread, so i could be wrong.

Standard 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome. It's in human nature to be distrustful. How do you think we survivded all these ****ing years?


1.- What the hell are you talking about?
2.- WTF happened to all the other things I put in the Showcase forum? (buildings, characters, weapons, weird stuff)
3.- I have no screenshots of the matrix mod in the new engine, because I haven't started that yet. I started this topic to find out if I can legally be covered.
4.- I have screenshots of a game that I'm making with a game, but they are very simple, compared to what you will see in 1-2 weeks. Off topic: The game is 3D.
5.- The engine has only a terrain generator using heightmaps and brush tools. (Forgot to mention a tree generator as well, the rest are my models 100%)
6.- I will not mention the engine name or website until I post the first WIP screens (I have good reasons for this).
7.- The game engine is not complete, I only bought it because the praise will raise when completed, (in fact, the price raised to or will very soon to $65, and the new release isn't even out yet)
8.- The game I'm making is in no way, shape or form related to Star Wars, The Matrix, or Massassi.
9.- Resurrections is indefinatly suspended, cause: Funding pulled from under us and team broke up + school.
10.- The first screenshots will contain default character models, so they will be crappy.
11.- What did I forget?
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-08-23, 12:34 PM #63
Gold is like a sauna. Put projects on his bricks and they'll turn to vapor.

:P
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-08-23, 12:43 PM #64
Originally posted by Jepman:
Gold is like a sauna. Put projects on his bricks and they'll turn to vapor.

:P


Gold is like a liar. Anything that comes out of his mouth is a lie, because he's a liar.
2006-08-23, 12:44 PM #65
Touché.
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-08-23, 1:19 PM #66
Originally posted by Echoman:
If he just bought it, can we atleast see the website he made the purchase from?


Indeed, Echoman.
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2006-08-23, 1:20 PM #67
I wish I had the brains and ideas of a golden mexican :( :psyduck:
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-08-23, 1:20 PM #68
Originally posted by Alan:
Realistically speaking, Rob is correct. All I ever saw of Gold's "work" was a folder tree and a "high poly" model of a morning star for a zelda mod (which i believe was said to be from morrowind). Then again, I wasn't able to find the thread, so i could be wrong.


That was about a member named aocowner(insert numbers).

[edit: nevermind, different event]
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2006-08-23, 2:28 PM #69
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
1.- What the hell are you talking about?
2.- WTF happened to all the other things I put in the Showcase forum? (buildings, characters, weapons, weird stuff)
3.- I have no screenshots of the matrix mod in the new engine, because I haven't started that yet. I started this topic to find out if I can legally be covered.
4.- I have screenshots of a game that I'm making with a game, but they are very simple, compared to what you will see in 1-2 weeks. Off topic: The game is 3D.
5.- The engine has only a terrain generator using heightmaps and brush tools. (Forgot to mention a tree generator as well, the rest are my models 100%)
6.- I will not mention the engine name or website until I post the first WIP screens (I have good reasons for this).
7.- The game engine is not complete, I only bought it because the praise will raise when completed, (in fact, the price raised to or will very soon to $65, and the new release isn't even out yet)
8.- The game I'm making is in no way, shape or form related to Star Wars, The Matrix, or Massassi.
9.- Resurrections is indefinatly suspended, cause: Funding pulled from under us and team broke up + school.
10.- The first screenshots will contain default character models, so they will be crappy.
11.- What did I forget?

Never mind i just read how he can't post the engines sight...
AND how is AMAZINGG ZOMQ film is canceled..

I now withhold any and all defending of gold.
I now leave this thread.
At first Gold i was willing to give you the benifit of the doubt...
You broke that little trust.
We can't even see the ****ING ENGINE ITSELF? What the hell is wrong with you?
You'r ****ed all of massassi is gonna stomp on you and piss on the body...
2006-08-23, 2:40 PM #70
Mmm no comment.
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2006-08-23, 2:45 PM #71
And now ... Tiberium_Empire tries to look cool by putting down Gold.

So much failure everywhere.
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2006-08-23, 2:48 PM #72
I did not put him down.

I simply warned hom to have PROOF and that not having it lead me to competely distrust him.
2006-08-23, 2:50 PM #73
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
I did not put him down.

I simply warned hom to have PROOF and that not having it lead me to competely distrust him.


Quote:
We can't even see the ****ING ENGINE ITSELF? What the hell is wrong with you?
You'r ****ed all of massassi is gonna stomp on you and piss on the body...


..
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2006-08-23, 2:51 PM #74
Quite, Echoman. Quite. Atleast I put forth better than "You'r ****ed"
I had a blog. It sucked.
2006-08-23, 2:55 PM #75
I was gonna say that, Echoman, but whatever. You beat me to it. :psyduck:
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2006-08-23, 3:49 PM #76
I can't tell you the engine, because as soon as you see it, you will bring back old memories and bash me for choosing that particular engine.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-08-23, 3:56 PM #77
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, you people are stubborn.

All he did was ask a simple question.

Stop yelling for 'evidence' already.
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-08-23, 4:02 PM #78
Psst --->[http://www.mbeggar.out-post.net/misc/banstick.JPG]
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2006-08-23, 4:07 PM #79
Go get 'em, MB! :v:
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-08-23, 4:17 PM #80
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, you people are stubborn.

All he did was ask a simple question.

Stop yelling for 'evidence' already.


I simply asked for the link to the website he got the engine from. Is that so much?
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