The movie is supposed to take place in the future and pose a What if question.

How is it diff. from any other form of media...are you telling me, that somewhere right now floating around, there isnt some comic, or story or political satire that has something to do with the president being assassinated...

are you telling me that NOWHERE else has this been done before. The movie is stirring controversy and there are people other then just myself who want to see it. So what if I dont like the guy, I dont hide that fact, if you take such offense to that, make a note not to see the film, and if that doesnt help, write a strongly worded letter about it to the filmmakers, or even better still...write a poem about it and artistically express your distaste for the film in a coffee house...

FTW!

I have no problem with you not liking Bush. I know a lot of people don't like Bush. The majority of this forum is anti-Bush, aren't they? But no one seems as verbal as you. You are constantly (CONSTANTLY. every chance you get!) to say "It's not my fault he's in office" as if everyone's trying to blame you.

And I ask you again: define dumbass

Wait, isnt it like... illegal to say youre going to kill the President? So wouldnt that make this not very legal in the US?

Well, not really. You couldn't make much of a case that this movie constitutes an actual threat against the President's life.

What if he chokes on popcorn while he watches his death scene?

when i first read the title (before i saw "it's a movie don't worry") i actually thought it was true, and i insantly though... "finally" and then a moment later "oh god no, this means cheney is president."

go ahead and hate me for my opinion.

my description of a dumbass....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Vu_37I7wA

Can I hate you for your freedom instead?

Bush: Has speaking problems. But this man probably has more responsiblity, stress, trouble, problems than any other man in all of the U.S., possibly the world. I think Iraq was not a bad choice, but not neccesarily a good one either.

[QUOTE=Michael MacFarlane]Can I hate you for your freedom instead?[/QUOTE]

yes go right ahead. you terr-ist.

The presidents since Reagan have been kind of pushovers. Both Bushs and Clinton seem like guys that just sat in the Oval Office for 4-8 years. Reagan made an impact, though. I mean he was a great public speaker, he did the country some good, helped end the Cold War. You didn't mess with the man. I mean yeah...you could've made fun of him, but there was no way you could make him look like an idiot. He was a man's man. All the CinCs since have been pussies. (And I don't mean that in the British way, either)

OK, so just because he blows at public speaking makes him a dumbass? Damn Boricua...there's ****loads of dumbasses then. Yeah, he said some pretty stupid stuff, I admit. But that makes him a dumbass? How about giving me a real statement next time instead of linking to a video of someone's faults, hmm?

So because there are lots of dumbasses makes it alright to have a president who is one? hmm? Shouldn't we have a president who can communicate effectively to their citizens? hmm?

I don't agree with Boricua about Bush being a dumbass, but the statement in bold is unquestionably true.

I must have missed a point where I singled out this vide- Oh wait, I didn't. I think all forms of this media are offensive, and I said nothing more. Being offended isn't remedied by "expressing my opinions." You act like I'm personally attacking you by being offended by a very poor argument against bush.

"Wow, bush is dumb. Lets make a movie about him being assassinated to show how much better the world would be. Wouldn't that be a completely unbiased opinion that would help americans see how silly of a president we have? Man, I'll bet some conservatives who were complete bush lovers will suddenly see our side of things!"

No. It's a loud and proud (stupid) way of saying that you think bush should be dead. Activism art like this does nothing but piss people off, and does nothing for the actual problem being petitioned. Nothing.

I hate bush. Probably more than you do. (Considering your strongest argument is a youtube video of him messing up words) I don't, however, support a movie suggesting he be killed. (Don't pretend this movie doesn't suggest he be killed. I don't need to see it to get that much.) I don't like the guy's policy on a lot of things, and I don't like how he's gotten away with things that other nations would expect their leader to resign out of shame: That doesn't mean I support the killing of ANYONE. That's a stupid message, and DOESN'T fix the problem AT ALL. All it does is anger people, and give stupid liberalist children who, I'm going to be go out a limb and guess that you are, wear anarchist symbols and call themselves non political fuel against conservatives.

Extremists are bad. This video comes from extremist liberals. Micheal Moore, the fat, greasy, surrealist, is an extremist liberal. Pat Robertson is an extremist conservative. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE OR THINGS ARE HEALTHY. America isn't about being the winner in an argument, because we ALL lose if we're having an argument. It's about comprimise between individual and community needs, where you fall in that comprimise is the loose definition of your political sway: THAT'S IT. Stop making it a war, and focus on the betterment of everyone.

It might be better if bush weren't in office: I AGREE. It wouldn't be better if we KILLED A PERSON. Period.

This man has spoken true wisdom. I'm amazed and inspired. Thank you.

JediKirby, while I disagree with you in some regards I have to respect the fact that you understand how abhorent this film is. Personally, I don't really care. I'm willing to allow extremists a fictional movie to enjoy while I can watch factual media that destroy their positions.

I agree fully. Plus what other purpose does this movie have than to make money off of the antibush people? Well, there ARE a lot of them apparently. This is dumb.

It's not my fault Bush is in office. I voted for Kerry.

It's fine to admit that you didn't vote for Bush but to claim that you actually voted for Kerry? You'd be better off saying you voted for Nader or wrote yourself in or something!

He probably does a way better job at public speaking than you do. I really don't see any correlation between being a good public speaker and being a good leader. It's not that he's stupid, but that his basic philosophy and assumptions are quite different from yours. Honesty, it stopped being funny 7 years ago. Give it a rest.

It's always so ironic seeing people say "Bush is an idiot lawlz."

I've always wondered what in the heck that thing is. Psyduck? OK.

Honestly, a doorstop would have made a better president than Bush. If all progress had been halted when Clinton left office, we'd be far better off than we are now.

That is the funniest thing I think you've ever said.

Oh, really? Doorstops don't erode our rights, nor do they undermine the constitution.

Nor do they uphold peace at any one time. Your perfect government would be ran by a conch shell, right?

Kirby, did you ever watch Pahrenheit 9/11? Just curious.

Hmmm, it doesn't say anywhere how the movie will portay the world after the assassination. And somehow I can't imagine that there'll be a point in the film where somebody says: "And after the assassination, peace broke out."
If “The Day Britain Stopped” really was so dark, as it sounds (haven't seen it), I don't think this movie will show that Bush is what keeps the world from world peace. I think if Bush was really killed the "War on Terror" would just get worse.

I'd be proud if a movie was made about me being killed, which results in a world that is worse off.

But we can't really say anything about that if we haven't seen the movie.

Doorstops can uphold peace in very small cases, such as keeping terrorists from opening my door and shooting me in the face.

Yes, because that movie isn't just another conspiracy theory, it actually supports it's assertations with facts and doesn't flat out lie ever. Unless Pahrenheit isn't a typo and it's some spoof film.

Considering Kirby's proper distaste for Micheal Moore, I would suspect that no, he hasn't.

You voted Kerry? Wow. I didn't realize you hated America THAT much.

I must say he made it to presidential elections. How did someone so bad pull that off? DO YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE FAITH IN AMERICA?

From what I understand the movie is just a scenario, a 'what if' thing to see what the effects would be. Perhaps you shouldn't be labelling it before you've seen it.



Still, you can't deny he comes off as a dumbass.




O rly? No hasty assumptions whatsoever here.

[quote=The Article]

“It’s a pointed political examination of what the war on terror did to the American body politic,” he said. Dale said he expected the film would upset some, but defended it as a sophisticated piece of work. “It’s not sensationalist, or simplistic but a very thought-provoking, powerful drama,” he said. “I hope people will see that the intention behind it is good.”[/quote]

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Hmmmmm. I'm afraid that if you were in power, people wouldn't be allowed to have different opinions, because it would 'weaken the nation'. "Extremists are bad!" Only the middle ground is acceptable! One people! One culture! One opinion! One thought! No more kids with anarchist badges!

And yeah, being fat and greasy is unhealthy, but I don't see how it supports your argument against Moore. Looks like Boricua had a better argument against Bush.

People like Michael Moore exist to keep us alert. A society that wants to make progress needs vocal members who provoke our thoughts, just to ensure that the discussion keeps going. A people that blindly trusts and follows her leaders will find itself being taken advantage of, since the powers of government have proven time and again that power corrupts.

They could have at least though up a good satire instead.

It doesn't bother you at all to make this many unfounded assumptions? Where exactly does the article say that the point of the film is to show how much better the world would be without Bush? I ask only because that's in direct contradiction with other things I've read about this film.

That's really not particularly in the nature of Channel 4 or British TV in general. You make it sound like they'll have a scene of Bush being killed followed by an approximation of the end of Return of the Jedi. It's being touted as a detective story, speculating how the world would react, what would change, whodunnit and why. That doesn't say Bush should be killed. Heck, without watching it you can't even say for sure that it'd encourage someone to assassinate Bush at all.
We've had TV shows here that ridicule paedophilia and the public reaction to it. Sure, to a certain extent it's bad taste but it also made a point (at the time we had idiots attacking paediatricians assuming that it meant paedophile).

My main point is that you've gone right ahead and assumed that this film is going to suggest that Bush's death is going to be shown as a good thing. It's also too early to judge it based on a vague claim that it'll be a thought-provoking mock documentary. Personally I'm going to give it a chance when it airs rather than judge it now.

You always agree with her, though.

OK, lets say I made assumptions:

I think BoricuaDelight and I were making the SAME assumptions.

I never said people needed one voice: That's just silly. I said that extremists aren't healthy. Micheal Moore is a very important character. He offsets bush, in my opinion. I just don't like his absolutely and wholly left wing thinking. That isn't our nation's betterment (Some issues I can see where liberals and conservatives CANNOT comprimise) but instead, stupid disagreements that take attention away from more important issues.

Kirby: get down from your soapbox, nobody gives a ****.

Well I do, i'm glad you're *****ing and moaning about some bull**** movie though, its done what it set out to do.