...Yeah? Most of the people in the community were most likely born there or brought there when they were really young. If you were born in a community where everyone in it told you there were monsters outside town you would believe it. It's because they don't know any better. They were raised believing that monsters were real.

Pike, correct me if I'm wrong...but that's what all the hype is about...

SAJN, that plot is still stupid. Who decides "Hey, lets go into the woods, start our own town, and then tell all our children there are monsters in the woods so they never leave!" "Brilliant!"?

They lived in a park. Did they never see planes or anything?

Why did a ranger never stumble upon the village?

The village was protected by the Rangers. I dunno aout planes, might have been a no-fly zone for some godawful reason.

-Woulda been a MUCH better movie if there had really been monsters in the woods. The monster designs were creepy and cool, and it's a shame they just turned out to be people.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]How didn't The Village make sense?

They were a group of people who created a secret community because they couldn't stand to live in society because of all the horrible things that happened to them during their lives. The few 'elders' that created the community act as if the community is real and they are able to use the fake monsters to convince all the people living in the community that they can't leave. This gives them a way to protect their way of living which will keep their families safe. What doesn't make sense?[/QUOTE]

It's not that it didn't make sense. It makes sense. It's just boring and predictable.

That's what made the movie so brilliant. They were fake. The movie would have been stupid if the monsters were real. There wouldn't have been a twist. It would have been pointless. The movie leads you to believe that it's taking place a long time ago and possibly on some fictional land, but what makes it so interesting is the amount of work it took to create a false village and keep it a secret from people.



They decided to make the town after their lives were ruined. They didn't want their children growing up in such a twisted world so they created their own village to keep people safe. The plot makes more sense than most other movies that come out today.



It was a private place. I think the elders were considered the 'rangers'. They owned the land so they took care of it. I also think they mention that it's a no fly zone or that no one is allowed inside the fenced area or something like that.



The movie contains two twists. The first twist is that the monsters are fake, okay you might have been able to figure that out before they told you. The second twist is that the movie takes place in modern day. There is no way in hell that was predictable. There is nothing in the set design or the dialogue that even hints at that. As for it being boring? I can see how some people might think that, but I personally don't see it. It was never meant to be a horror-thriller-slasher-killer-death-scare movie. It was a drama. A damn good one too. The scenes where the camera doesn't cut or move for long periods of time are the best ones. It has the feeling of it being a classic film or a play. That's like calling Casablanca a stupid movie because all they do is talk the whole time. Well yeah, all they do it talk, but it's brilliant.

There is absolutely NO way you can compare Casablanca to The Village. Mostly because the latter really did suck.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]They decided to make the town after their lives were ruined. They didn't want their children growing up in such a twisted world so they created their own village to keep people safe. The plot makes more sense than most other movies that come out today.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware that they were attempting to run from their problems. There are better ways of doing this. Moving onto an abandoned oil rig for example, would have been a better choice than fabricating monsters.

And by golly, you're right, that poor excuse for a plot is definitely better than that of The Departed, MI3, Hostle, Thank You for Smoking, Fearless, Lucky Number Sleven, Strangers with Candy, Syriana, Inside Man, Munich, Ice Harvest, Der Untergang, Libertine, Oldboy, etc etc... A forumlaic M. Night Shablowthedog movie with a super-duper twist at the end sure does beat all those movies...

I am not comparing them in terms of how awesome they were. I was just using Casablanca as an example because it's a film thats mostly talking and everyone seems to love it.

Actually Skynet didn't need much in the way of people to build factories. It already has a fully functional Cyborg named Robocop that it could probably take over if it tried.

The ending of the remake of the Planet of the Apes.

Do video games count?
Jedi Knight...Sure it fits with the title of the game but im sure you have to more then find a lightsaber in a garage to become a Jedi. Wouldve been better if they had some sort of "Jedi Training"level between 3 and 4. Where you do stuff like Force jump here use force sight here. etc.

[QUOTE=Bounty Hunter 4 hire]The ending of the remake of the Planet of the Apes.[/QUOTE]
I remember there being an explination of the ending, something about the electrical storm screwing up time flow and since the man(forgot his name) went through, then the chimp (also don't know the name, the one who tries to kill him) goes in after using the other pod (the one in the water). Since the electrical storm screws up time, the chimp went farther back in time and took over humanity, so when the man landed, the world was ruled by the apes.


The way I always looked at it was that kyle just gradually discovered how to use the force (much like Morgan Katarn did from the books), and just trained himself. Not too hard to understand, look at people who teach themselves to play a guitar or a piano, same concept.

(Yes, a bit late)

Order of Terminator movies in good to bad is as follows:

T, T3, T2.

Terminator 2 was my favorite. Then I saw Terminator, and after seeing Terminator 3 I realized how annoying John is in T2.

Plus, his best friend had a MULLET.

The ending of the original Saw was absolutely terrible. You're telling me that this old guy kept himself perfectly still for over an hour so that neither one of the panicked guys in the room would notice him? Great way to kill off what was otherwise a half-decent story for a Saw's genre. I'll give it one thing, though: the ending was very inspiring...it inspired me to not watch the other two.

he drugged himself so he wouldn't move

They explain that in Saw III. He drugged himself.

But he hasn't seen Saw 3. Until you see Saw 3, which this is what, 2 or 3 years later, that makes absolutely no sense, atleast to LT_Winters. Seems to me like they'd just be trying to fix a hole they left by accident.

I myself haven't seen it, so I wouldn't know.

The term is retconning, and I had assumed he had drugged himself as well. He was all groggy and **** when he woke up.

-Also, I haven't seen Saw III yet, but I'm aware of some spoilers.

Dude..

The first Terminator was ****ing awesome, you're on crack.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]That's what made the movie so brilliant. They were fake. The movie would have been stupid if the monsters were real. There wouldn't have been a twist. It would have been pointless. The movie leads you to believe that it's taking place a long time ago and possibly on some fictional land, but what makes it so interesting is the amount of work it took to create a false village and keep it a secret from people.



They decided to make the town after their lives were ruined. They didn't want their children growing up in such a twisted world so they created their own village to keep people safe. The plot makes more sense than most other movies that come out today.



It was a private place. I think the elders were considered the 'rangers'. They owned the land so they took care of it. I also think they mention that it's a no fly zone or that no one is allowed inside the fenced area or something like that.



The movie contains two twists. The first twist is that the monsters are fake, okay you might have been able to figure that out before they told you. The second twist is that the movie takes place in modern day. There is no way in hell that was predictable. There is nothing in the set design or the dialogue that even hints at that. As for it being boring? I can see how some people might think that, but I personally don't see it. It was never meant to be a horror-thriller-slasher-killer-death-scare movie. It was a drama. A damn good one too. The scenes where the camera doesn't cut or move for long periods of time are the best ones. It has the feeling of it being a classic film or a play. That's like calling Casablanca a stupid movie because all they do is talk the whole time. Well yeah, all they do it talk, but it's brilliant.[/QUOTE]



Dude.

Those were both very obvious "twists." If you couldn't see that coming you're an idiot.

There are a lot of people who believe some really whacky **** that is crazier than that, like Scientology, for starters.

That's true...and those bastards figured out how to milk money off the idiots that believe them too.

I Thought the village was predictable because most of the plot was entirely stolen from a book I read in elementary school called running out of time.

I actually liked Signs, but the twist made my head hurt. And not in a good way.

Next door in the Dakota's were in the Cold War


Yay! Fallout for Genki!

First off, his best friend was the bully in SALUTE YOUR SHORTS! He gets to have a mullet, because he's so awesome.

The relationship between John and the terminator is what makes T2 my favorite of the series.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort] That's what made the movie so brilliant. They were fake. The movie would have been stupid if the monsters were real. There wouldn't have been a twist. It would have been pointless. The movie leads you to believe that it's taking place a long time ago and possibly on some fictional land, but what makes it so interesting is the amount of work it took to create a false village and keep it a secret from people.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't brilliant. It was lame, stupid, and uninteresting. I would have loved to have seen a movie about a small town being haunted by monsters. Shyamalan can do creepy. Why does there have to be a twist?

It was the early ninties. That was the style back then, especially Southern California.

wat about jp 3 (jurrassic park 3)?
-ending that is?

If there turned out to actually be monsters in The Village, that would've been a great twist (yes twist, because everyone was expecting it to be people, thus, twist), especially if they had it so there really were people pretending to be monsters, and they got eaten by the real ones.

And I can't believe anyone would rate T3 over T1. T3 was awful.

Zloc, T2 the worst?

I just lost all respect for you.

Ditto.

I still liked Terminator 3. Not grand spanking stuff, but good stuff anyway. And it has nukes in the end. Nothing else matters after that.

Darth Vader is Luke's father? What's all that about!?

the earth a computer? wtf? mice?

I havent seen all of The Village... but the story reminds me pretty much of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_allegory_of_the_cave

It sounds like a lot of people in this thread are mentioning movies they didn't like and not movies with non-sensical endings or whatnot.

You all should take history of film classes. THEN you'll see movies with non-sensical parts... because some of them are "artsy" and such.

Anyone here seen Casshern? I watched a lot of that wondering what the heck was going on. In particular the gigantic metal lightning bolts coming out of nowhere.

Oh and Eraserhead was plenty confusing too.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]The second twist is that the movie takes place in modern day. There is no way in hell that was predictable.[/QUOTE]

There was a bit about a medicine (was it pennicilin?) within the first 20 minutes that could not exist in the time that the village was supposed to be in. Given that M. Night likes to slip in these little clues, I figured that it was in the modern day.

EM shielding, lol

Monty Python and the Holy Grail.