...only less so after the marketers are done with them.

This thread is getting more and more stupid as time goes on. :/

Oh look. It just got a lot stupider. How about that?

Yeah I know, why'd you have to go and post again and make it more stupid?

See, this is one of those battles where the person who gets the last word in is the loser.

I get my water from the ground under my house. While there is a definite lack of taste killing chemicals found in city water, there is also the presence of whatever minerals are down there, in the case of Northwest Louisiana that means iron.

uhhh... glass is silica. maybe it has some extremely small amount of other stuff, usually some other mineral added for colour, temperance etc. there's nothing for it to biodegrade into. it is natural as it stands. get some sand, melt it down and form it into what you want. like maybe a bottle for water.
plastic needs an oil rig, drilling, oil spills, burning fossil fuels, and if sitting long enough with something liquid in it may leach into what you're consuming. blech...

imho, anyone who pays more for water than they do for gas is retarded (usually as they complain about the price of gas). plain and simple.
water comes out of a tap and is filtered to put in a bottle.
gas has to be prospected, dug, drilled, super-structure erected, hundreds of people employed, brought out of the crust of the earth, transported to a refinery, refined, transported to a convenient location and pumped out of more infrastructure.
bottled water has to be one of the most incredible rip offs pushed on mankind. ever. more so than movie theatre popcorn.

here in canada you pay minimum $1.90/L of water. sometimes up to $3.40/L. gas is just under $1.00/L

Paying for water is about as ridiculous as paying for air.

I'd like to see the US Military's bill for all the bottled water we have in theatre.

Just at this COP alone, I know we have atleast 5000 cases. I can't imagine how cases many bigger "base's" like Camp Taji and Camp Liberty have.

Exactly.

Bottled water should only be meant for people running or places where the water is not drinkable, in my opinion.

Since I don't know of any American having problems drinking water (except the few backwards hicks that throw crap into their sinkholes and get sick later), or anyone that's running/going to run after buying one at a vending machine (those cases are few), why be so lazy to just get up and go to a water fountain?

If you want to go waste your money on it, by all means, you lazy selfish ****.

I'd be a bit sceptical over the energy requirements for that, both in terms of costs and whether or not it's a net improvement for the environment.

I've never found tap water to be bad at all in the UK, nor for that matter in much of the EU. I'm pretty sure I had tap water in Serbia and Bulgaria too that tasted fine. As long as it ran cold, I was fairly sure it was fresh and just watched out for any metallic taste.
My housemate went to Belarus and tried tap water while there; apparently you can taste the heavy metals in it.

I can see paying for like... Propel(sp?) or the like. Water that has addatives. But hell, if you're going to buy that why not just buy a Powerade or Gatorade?

I was downing like 6 1.5 liter bottles every day in Israel.

It was ridiculous the amount of bottled water a company of 300 Marines consumed. And that **** is even more expensive over there because in lots of places that is their only water source...

That's the stupidest argument I've ever heard. Petroleum is every bit as natural as the quartz used in glass.

And if you consider plastic "unnatural," then you have to consider glass unnatural too. Neither of the two do you find in nature.

I don't like the taste of any water.

It all tastes bleh.

ok. so it's a billion times less harmfull to the environment as we happened upon it than plastic. we all walk on quartz every day. the animals live freely among it. there are billions of tonnes of glass in nature right now. go pick up some silica or mica. it's glass and it's almost everywhere. on the surface of the earth. no need to dig it up and dump it where it kills. made by nature itself in the past, today and until the earth is consumed by the sun (at which point even more glass will be made before it's blasted into the cosmos).
learn something before you call someone stupid.
that's like saying don't worry about the environmental impact of drilling in alaska. the oil is already there. if we dump some and burn it turning into something like CO2 that already exists, it's no big deal. it's all natural.

You can actually find glass naturally occurring in the environment in rare and extreme cases.

I'm confused. Please explain to me how a plastic bottle is "a billion" times more harmful to the environment than a glass bottle.



What's your point? We all walk above naturally-occuring petroleum every day. And although most animals don't live among it, there are billions of tons of petroleum in nature right now, produced by compressed plant matter.



No it isn't. Don't even try to pretend it's the same thing. There is the same amount of order in a piece of glass as there is in a liter of gasoline.



So the only difference is where it is found: above or below ground.



I never called you stupid; I called your argument stupid.

that's like saying don't worry about the environmental impact of drilling in alaska. the oil is already there. if we dump some and burn it turning into something like CO2 that already exists, it's no big deal. it's all natural.[/QUOTE]

Water in New Zealand tastes good. No need for a filter here.

Bottled water is hella convenient.

You are paying for that service.

Quit being a bunch of whiney babies and mind your own damn business.

Actually, it's technically a good.

You know what I meant, assbreath.

Convenient? We're describing how inconvenient and wasteful it is. It's convenient to you as a consumer, but it's actually more harmful to you as a consumer. Being tricked into buying loopholes with job-loss guilt, statements of convenience, and claim to conservationism is part of being a bad consumer. It's what companies like oil, bottled water, and light bulb manufacturers like in a society. Ignorance and feelings of luxury.

It is convenient to buy a bottle of water.

Drink it.

Then throw it in the bin.

Instead of carrying a cantene all day.

IMAGINE THAT. I find something convenient that you don't. What a brave new world we live in.

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The main problem I have with the proliferation of bottled water is that it removes the political pressure to have clean tap water. If no one drinks it, why should anyone care what's in it?

And for the record, more alteration is necessary to turn petroleum to plastic than to turn sand into glass.

Hahahahaha

Dude we're supposed to hate each other on internet. Stop saying things I agree with.

But surely everyone still uses their tap water at home and just buys bottled water, say, in the shop when there's no drinking fountains around.

[That being said I like the odd bottle of water because I just plain don't like using drinking fountains.]

It's not like I do my laundry or wash my dishes with bottled water.

Is there some way i can filter from seeing spooks posts. Trying to read them gives me a headache.

Hey hey hey! I will have you know that I have excellent punctuation, spelling, and grammar as long as I am having regular (and quality) sex!

And I guess that explains the amount of unreadable posts from me.






(and to preempt you bastards, )

And Rob, I often wonder what it would be like if the entirety of Massassi moved into a dorm together. Scary I think. But if you insist, I will get back to being correct.

We need to insert portals into peoples necks. They pay like, 50 cents and BAM! cup of water.

Yeah, then everyone could chip in a quarter and drown you.

Hah. Massassi dorm rooms; I cringe at the thought. But hey, we could put Rob and CarpKing in a room together and laugh at the ensuing hilarity.

Off topic... What about that lady who died from holding her wee for too long. Apparently it was a competition. Hold your wee for a wii.

Less holding it in and more chugging insane amounts of water down.
Water poisoning. One of the most retarded wayys to go...

Hahaha, this post wins 20 internets.

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Glass is basically bio-inert it's another form of silicon dioxide just like sand, or the silicas and micas found in soil and clay. It's basically a key ingredient of dirt and is about as harmful to the environment as a brick. The main dangers with glass are sharp edges with broken pieces and all sorts of nasty problems if you inhale powdered glass (not a particularly frequent occurence). Eventually glass if left will physically wear down and each piece worn off will be no different from a grain of sand. Glass is very easy to recycle simply by melting it and reforming it.

Plastics on the other hand are made from oil which IS poisonous to most species. Some plastics contain lovely poisonous chemicals which they leak. That's why certain typical plasticizers used in PVC are banned from being used in children's toys in the EU. Plastic doesn't biodegrade. When burnt it releases toxic chemicals as well as the pollutants typically found when burning oil. Recycling is difficult due to the many varieties of plastic and because quite often you can't just reheat and reset it, especially with thermosetting plastics. It generally doesn't last as long as glass as it becomes brittle with exposure to UV rays. The reason we use plastic more often is because it's lighter, less fragile and often more convenient.


Yes, and it's practically hermetically sealed from the environment above under masses of rock.


Dude, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Actually pick up a book on soil chemistry and you'll read all about the silica and mica sheets that constitute most clays.


*sigh* The difference is that most organisms can cope with the presence of silicon dioxide. But not long chain hydrocarbons and polymers.

Guess I'll bring this back on topic....

If I spend the buck, I'm going to buy a powerade or Gatorade or a soda. The only water I pay for comes out of my tap. And I carry my Bubba Keg and fill it up with some icy cold goodness from the school I work at.