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Toshiba to end HD DVD
2008-02-16, 7:10 PM #41
Oh what was that? Weren't some of you saying that Blu-Ray was the next betamax? I swear this forum is very Anti-Sony. This war was pretty much over once Warner Bros. switched to Blu-Ray exclusivity.
2008-02-16, 7:14 PM #42
When I get insane amounts of money I don't know where to spend, I'll tell you. Right now, I'll stick with plain old DVD.
obviously you've never been able to harness the power of cleavage...

maeve
2008-02-16, 8:58 PM #43
im still not even going to go to blu-ray till the ACCC tells sony off for region encoding again, so I dont buy a player that either is unable to be easily made to play any regeon of DVD and BD, and definatly not until it can be done so without sony being able to remotely brick it. Australian law says it is my right to be able to watch something that I have legaly purchased, so until BD players sold in Australia start following that law out of the box (for both DVDs and BDs) I will not even think of buying a BD player.
Snail racing: (500 posts per line)------@%
2008-02-16, 9:11 PM #44
the biggest problem with on demand is that unless you live near where the servers are (i.e. the US, as i doubt they will bother spending money to set up a server in lolaustralia :rolleyes: ), you either have crap download times, have to get a lower resolution version or some other comprimise. not to mention that not all countries that have large amounts of people with an internet connection actualy have decent infrastructure (and in the case of australia, the company that controls said infrastructure has not got much incentive to upgrade, and is only placing new lines because the government is forcing them so that people in remote areas can have somewhat decent internet connections), also, not every ISP offers reasonable download limits that would allow someone to watch shjows.

Then you have lisenceing issues, which means that people are just going to illegaly download shows if they are only available via an on demand service and will not be offered in their country (or, wont be offered for quite a while), you get seriously screwed if there is an error in the server that determines what you have paid for. Not to mention having a disc means you can have INSTANT access to what you want to watch, without having to worry about download times, server connections, you can watch it on portable players ect...

Basicly, if DIVX couldnt get on demand with discs to work, HOW THE HELL will a download based on demand service ever take off, especialy outside the major producing regeons.
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2008-02-19, 7:21 AM #45
The war is finally over with Blu-Ray being the official victor.

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in fact talk has it that Paramount has already been getting Blu-ray copies of its major 2007 performers like "Transformers," "Blades of Glory" and "Zodiac" ready for release quickly. Blu-ray versions of HD-DVD only titles like "Batman Begins," "The Mummy," and "Heroes: Season 1" are expected to all hit shelves later in the year.


I hope that include the Bourne movies too.
2008-02-19, 7:53 AM #46
Yay.
2008-02-19, 7:56 AM #47
edit button

and until paramount and universal make statements anything about blurays of their movies being on store shelves is just speculation at this point

i still feel hd dvd might be able to live on through independant films and possibly the occasional import (just had a dreamcast flashback... homebrew and imports... freaky)

hopefully there will be a massive clearance/fire sale and i can pick up a good standalone player dirt cheap (xbox add-on's audio limitations are limiting)
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2008-02-19, 8:01 AM #48
Paramount and Universal already announced they switched.

Not that I care. I have a PS3 anyways, so it all works out.

For all the xbox guys here, the new 360's will have some kind of bluray thing in March from what I hear.
2008-02-19, 8:20 AM #49
universal and paramount have made NO announcements yet

microsoft has also made no statement saying they will put a bluray drive in the player the statement they did make mentioned "digital distribution" which means MS will most likely just continue their focus on HD downloads through xbox live (plus why send money to sony by putting a bluray drive in the system) the hd dvd drive will likely be discontinued and the remaining stock sold off

in short... speculation and rumors != fact
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2008-02-19, 8:28 AM #50
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
limitations are limiting)


:eng101:
nope.
2008-02-19, 9:07 AM #51
Don't really care about either, but side with HD just to spite the PS3.
"I got kicked off the high school debate team for saying 'Yeah? Well, **** you!'
... I thought I had won."
2008-02-19, 9:57 AM #52
I have a CRT tellybox. It really doesn't matter to me.

(as an aside I'm glad that one of them has dropped out, so the ridiculous exclusivity deals can bugger off, and PCs/Macs can start having High Def data drives fitted without fear or becoming obsolete)
2008-02-19, 9:57 AM #53
I find it kind of humorous that some of you declare an affiliation for being in the HD DVD faction to spite the Sony Playstation 3 and the associated Blu Ray player, despite my assurance that none of you have ever even played on one before. Kind of interesting to see bias still exist in some people, even to the extent that the bias is over a video game platform.

Interesting.
2008-02-19, 10:20 AM #54
Five hundred and ninety nine US dollars. I don't care if the prices have dropped since then, I consider that price for a game system insulting.

I have an XBox and a good computer. I'm not missing anything on the PS3.
"I got kicked off the high school debate team for saying 'Yeah? Well, **** you!'
... I thought I had won."
2008-02-19, 10:48 AM #55
Well no, because you have no real need to own more than one console from each generation.
nope.
2008-02-19, 10:50 AM #56
Originally posted by Anovis:
I find it kind of humorous that some of you declare an affiliation for being in the HD DVD faction to spite the Sony Playstation 3 and the associated Blu Ray player, despite my assurance that none of you have ever even played on one before. Kind of interesting to see bias still exist in some people, even to the extent that the bias is over a video game platform.

Interesting.


I've played PS3 you goon.

It's nothing special.
2008-02-19, 11:03 AM #57
Originally posted by JediGandalf:
So that you might expound on why Sony is such an excellent company. :v:


Well, the format war lasted long enough for Bluray players to come down in price to the point where people won't buy a PS3 just for Bluray support. Bluray is technically superior both in the sense of scripting as well as data capacity, and it's my understanding that they use the same coating as HD-DVDs now.

So I don't really have a reason to care anymore. V:)V
2008-02-19, 11:34 AM #58
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
universal and paramount have made NO announcements yet

microsoft has also made no statement saying they will put a bluray drive in the player the statement they did make mentioned "digital distribution" which means MS will most likely just continue their focus on HD downloads through xbox live (plus why send money to sony by putting a bluray drive in the system) the hd dvd drive will likely be discontinued and the remaining stock sold off

in short... speculation and rumors != fact



Fact: Universal has officially go Blu.


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i still feel hd dvd might be able to live on through independant films and possibly the occasional import (just had a dreamcast flashback... homebrew and imports... freaky)

hopefully there will be a massive clearance/fire sale and i can pick up a good standalone player dirt cheap (xbox add-on's audio limitations are limiting)


Standalone players are pretty cheap now. They are generally around $100 from what I can tell on the Slickdeal forums. Now why would independent films be released on a dying format? Their audience are already going to be rather limited because they have no marketing power to back them up so they definitely need a larger user-base that's future friendly.


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Five hundred and ninety nine US dollars. I don't care if the prices have dropped since then, I consider that price for a game system insulting.

I have an XBox and a good computer. I'm not missing anything on the PS3.


And yet they have learned from their mistake. We are free to learn from our mistakes right? "Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves up again."


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Well no, because you have no real need to own more than one console from each generation.


Not if you want to enjoy the exclusives and special features of each consoles.


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I've played PS3 you goon.

It's nothing special.


Before you even touch the controller, did you come in with the pretense that the PS3 was inferior? Also it can also depends on what games you were playing too because obviously not every game on a console can be good (I anticipate someone who will say the PS3 having no good games next).


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I find it kind of humorous that some of you declare an affiliation for being in the HD DVD faction to spite the Sony Playstation 3 and the associated Blu Ray player, despite my assurance that none of you have ever even played on one before. Kind of interesting to see bias still exist in some people, even to the extent that the bias is over a video game platform.

Interesting.


Interesting indeed. People are sure amusing when they spite consoles and their companies don't they? I could be like them by saying "Ha ha ha, HD-DVD fail just like the Soviet Union," but I personally see that as sophmoric. Personally, I recognize the Wii and the 360 as being good consoles if your interests match what they have to offer. Then again this is Massassi, a lot of Sony haters here and I recall the PS2 wasn't well receive here either.
2008-02-19, 11:37 AM #59
Dude what the **** are you talking about.

We all loved PS2 and made fun of original xbox.
2008-02-19, 11:52 AM #60
You two clearly feel somehow superior for having and enjoying your PS3. God forbid someone speak foul of it. You best jump to its defense right away!
"I got kicked off the high school debate team for saying 'Yeah? Well, **** you!'
... I thought I had won."
2008-02-19, 11:56 AM #61
Originally posted by Cloud:
I personally see that as sophmoric

I think the word you might have been looking for is 'sophistic' except I'm not sure you know that such a word exists, so I will simply disagree with you and state that the argument is most definitely not sophomoric.

The PS3 has games worth playing. Most of them are available on the PC or the Xbox 360, or they are simply mediocre like Drake's Fortune and Heavenly Sword. The PS3 also has crappy motion sensors and the concave trigger buttons can die and go to hell.
2008-02-19, 12:10 PM #62
Originally posted by Chaz Ghostle:
You two clearly feel somehow superior for having and enjoying your PS3. God forbid someone speak fowl of it. You best jump to its defense right away!


Nah, I don't care if you "speak foul of it" really. Hell I couldn't care less about some people's opinions in general.

I'm just making a point that some people's biases against it is getting in the way of how you perceive it; as a poor system, when it's actually pretty decent.

Don't try to bring me into your fanboism showdown. I own both systems and I enjoy both. There is nothing that makes me think that one is worse than the other.
2008-02-19, 12:11 PM #63
PS2 was awesome, and almost everyone here acknowledged that. It was easily the best console of it's gen.
PS3 however is overpriced crap =p
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2008-02-19, 12:12 PM #64
HI DEADMAN
2008-02-19, 12:18 PM #65
Wow, I love how something as simple as a ****ing MOVIE DISC FORMAT grows into such a hot topic.

Goddamn you guys take **** too seriously.
D E A T H
2008-02-19, 3:08 PM #66
I hate to agree with Yoshi but in this instance I have to.

Hell, HD isn't exactly something special anyway.
nope.
2008-02-19, 3:13 PM #67
now let's use this thread to talk about yoshi's mom and how much of a whore she is.
gbk is 50 probably

MB IS FAT
2008-02-19, 4:09 PM #68
Originally posted by Cloud:


one hour after my post... well paramount still has yet to make michael bay stop whining about transformers being on hd dvd
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2008-02-19, 4:12 PM #69
Originally posted by NoESC:
now let's use this thread to talk about yoshi's mom and how much of a whore she is.


Uh... B&? I don't know. :P
2008-02-19, 4:29 PM #70
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I think the word you might have been looking for is 'sophistic' except I'm not sure you know that such a word exists, so I will simply disagree with you and state that the argument is most definitely not sophomoric.

The PS3 has games worth playing. Most of them are available on the PC or the Xbox 360, or they are simply mediocre like Drake's Fortune and Heavenly Sword. The PS3 also has crappy motion sensors and the concave trigger buttons can die and go to hell.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sophomoric
2008-02-19, 5:23 PM #71


thank you for agreeing with me obi_kwiet, I always find your input valuable.
2008-02-19, 6:09 PM #72
Originally posted by Rob:
Dude what the **** are you talking about.

We all loved PS2 and made fun of original xbox.


Then I guess I don't visit the forums often enough. I recall seeing threads that usually praise the GameCube and someone mentioning how the PS2 "keep eye doctors in business" because of its blurry graphics or something.


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You two clearly feel somehow superior for having and enjoying your PS3. God forbid someone speak foul of it. You best jump to its defense right away!


When did we state we are superior for enjoying our PS3? We merely state our amusment of you going out of your way to hate it by siding with HD-DVD.


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I think the word you might have been looking for is 'sophistic' except I'm not sure you know that such a word exists, so I will simply disagree with you and state that the argument is most definitely not sophomoric.

The PS3 has games worth playing. Most of them are available on the PC or the Xbox 360, or they are simply mediocre like Drake's Fortune and Heavenly Sword. The PS3 also has crappy motion sensors and the concave trigger buttons can die and go to hell.


I simply forgot the "o." Going out of your way to spite a console or to incite flames (referring to statement about HD-DVD and the Soviet Union from prior post) isn't considered sophomoric? Anyhow, at least you gave more reasons why you don't like the PS3. Still, have you tried playing those games? I personally like them. However with the motion sensor and trigger buttons, yeah I'll agree with you about them to a degree.

Oh and yeah, Yoshi, you're right that this is getting out of hand. I should stop arguing and just only post whatever major news heads this way. Oh and I disagree, HD is something really special. Do you own a HD-TV? The jump from watching DVDs to Blu-Rays/HD-DVDs is noticable with a real good TV. Likewise, the same can be said for gaming (especially if you went from PS2/X-Box/GameCube to PS3/360).
2008-02-19, 6:19 PM #73
HD is great with footage that was shot with great cameras. SW Eps 2 and 3 were shot entirely in digital and are :awesome:
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2008-02-19, 7:16 PM #74
HD is also great with film... many older films look amazing in HD and i hope one day the studios will be convinced to dig deep into their vaults and do some amazing restorations and HD releases of their classics warner has already pulled a couple out of the vaults but there are so many more they could release

and for SW... maybe GL will go ahead and release them... not like they need another remaster for HD release
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2008-02-19, 7:20 PM #75
2001 was filmed in 70mm and is completely astounding in HD.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2008-02-20, 9:08 PM #76
As much of an old mindless peice of **** as this will make me sound, im still attached to all 100000000 of my DVD's to start re-buying all of them in HD format, let alone Blu-Ray and all that other ****.
" I am the Lizard King, I can do anyhthing... "
2008-02-20, 9:43 PM #77
Originally posted by NoESC:
now let's use this thread to talk about NoESC's mom and how much of a whore she is.

Fixed, and we covered this last week. Five times. In the butt.
D E A T H
2008-02-20, 9:49 PM #78
Ewww. You let NoESC's mother **** you in the *** five times?

Thats pretty gross.
2008-02-20, 9:57 PM #79
I'm not switching until we go to USB compatible compact flash drives for both movies and music.

[Lie]

Seriously, is that what's next? (After we go through several generations of DVDs of course...)
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2008-02-20, 10:01 PM #80
update... not only has paramount still not announced a switch to bluray they also have announced that There Will be Blood will be released on HD DVD
eat right, exercise, die anyway
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