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so you voted for the legalization of pot

I voted for the Obama team to respond to the question. But yes, I do support the legalization of pot.

F the legalization of pot. Decriminilize it but don't make it legal. I was almost killed at my job by some stupid *** pot head who was too high to realize I was working and decided to run the machine anyway, nearly crushing my head to nothing.

That's why it's illegal to be high at work... just like it's illegal to be drunk at work.

Frankly, the only thing I support marijuana being used for, is for patients in agonizing pain, such as cancer patients.

I remember seeing this video long ago about some doctor who's son had cancer, and would smoke some pot before his chemotherapy, and that the side effects of the chemo were not present afterward.

This I do support.

Pot as a recreational drug, available legally to all people with money and the right age? WOW, CHAOS assured.

That is one reason why I, and millions of people around the world would want to stay out of America.

Just FYI medical marijuana is intended to help with nausea and lack of appetite caused by chemo, not pain (which generally isn't a common side effect of chemo, except for certain cases where you get nerve damage in your extremities which case it wouldn't alleviate the pain anyways).

For anyone who feels like reading up on it more

And the rest of your post I don't agree with but I'll post about it some other time that's not 1:37 in the morning.

You could have used the same argument to argue against repealing Prohibition. Anyone who is going to smoke pot is probably already smoking it. Not to mention that we already have a drug legal to all people with money and the right age that is far more impairing than weed - alcohol.

But the point of ending marijuana prohibition isn't because people just want to get high and have a good time. Legalizing it would cut off money going to gangs, Mexican warlords, and terrorists. It would make it HARDER for minors to get it. And it would create tons of new jobs, which we desperately need with the thousands of jobs that are being cut, and especially since GM and Chrysler are about to go under. And on top of that, it would generate big tax revenues. People are already used to high sin taxes - the government can tax the hell out of it.

If alcohol is legal, and tobacco is legal, why isn't weed? It's safer than them both.

Haha Vin ended up making the point that I was going to make so I guess I don't have to post it anyways.

What Vin said.

I understand that. It's illegal in Virginia to be high period.

Point in case I don't want any pot head working for me period. Guy that got fired had a kid and a kid on the way, starting out a 15 an hour and looking at 19 an hour after six months, 20.50 after a year if he did at best poorly on his evaluation. Sucks to be him, would've been a nice job for him.

Also, like you said, it's illegal to be drunk at work. If you get drunk the night before you come into work, you've still got alcohol in your system, and I will fire someone for that without a moments pause. I've smelt beer on people, people that I know personally, knowing full well they weren't drinking that morning, and promptly sent them home. I sent them home only so they could collect their eight hours for the day, and I fired them. I like to get hammered myself every now and then, but I don't drink during the week (not like I even have time) or Sunday before I go into work Monday morning. Too many people's well being rests in everyone else's hand.

So where do you draw the line with pot? If you go and get baked Friday night, and the next Friday you have an accident and I have to send you for a drug test, how do I draw the line? You tested posative for marijuana, but how do I know if you were high or not? Mouth swab? Nope, you're fired. Doesn't matter, no ifs and or buts about it.

Yes but that happened because that guy was a drop-kick, clearly he would've been high that day regardless of laws (though I guess a shoot high people on site law might've done it).
So you're story doesn't really help the anti-legalization argument.

Yea you're exactly right, he was high as a kite. But it's like I said, where do I draw the line? If someone has alcohol in their system, they're fired without question. If someone fails a drug test, they're fired without question. Pot stays in your system longer than alcohol, so even if it was legal, what action would I take if someone tests posative for it? Even if they hadn't smoked pot for a few weeks, I can't tell the people under me, who don't smoke pot and don't want people who do working with them, to **** off.

So no, don't legalize it. People shouldn't sit in jail for it, I don't give a damn what people do in their spare time. So long as they don't work for me, or the people who's well being is in my hands. Legalizing it would only jepordize that.

It's right here in the Netherlands. And you know what? There's no chaos whatsoever. Come see for yourself.

And oh, guess what, it's legal here and still, if you look at the statistics, Marijuana use is LOTS and lots higher in the US and Canada than in the Netherlands. (And yes, I'm talking percentages so don't give me this nonsense about bigger populations etc.)

Give me a few hours until I get home from work and I'll show you the statistics.

The reason why governments should legalize pot (and the reason why we did here), is to seperate the softdrugs market from the harddrugs market. (Soft drugs = harmless, not physically addictive - cocaine is a hard drug, for example) As a result of the 'legalization' of pot, we have far less hard drug addicts than other countries.

When comes the time that people realize alcohol is more harmful, more addictive, and kills more people?

ORJ_JoS is right, alcohol is much more harmful than pot, hell it's even more harmful than a lot of hard drugs. You can die from not drinking once you're a full fledged fully dependant alcoholic.

But that doesn't change my situation. Where does Josh (Spectrael) draw the line? Hmm?

Hey, alcohol doesn't kill people, people do!

I do like the fact that the question is worded in such a way that, if Obama were to say "No", they could run with a "Obama doesn't want to create jobs!" scheme.

I assume (dangerous words I know) that they could test to see how recently you smoked it.
So if they smoked it once two weeks ago, no biggie, if they smoked it this morning before work: fired.
Besides, anyone who's had experience with pot or pot users can tell straight away when someone is high.

If you smoke pot the night before you work there's no way in the world you're going to be high the next morning.

In Britain it's common to go out for a drink or two at lunch, often with your bosses. You wouldn't get fired for having a bit of alcohol in your system, or for being high. You would be fired if it negatively affected your behaviour or performance though.

Same here in the Netherlands, although it might depend where you work.

i see no one here cares about the effects of offshore mining on the population of mudkips

****s

It's weed, not acid you fool... chaos would not ensue because everyone would be too high

True. Worst case scenario junk food, fast food, and 84 lumber stock would go up as all the stoners got hungry and started to build stuff.

Exactly, it would increase spending in other areas, too!

I don't think LSD would do a whole lot either...

Acid should never be legalized.

Vinny, when was the last time you posted something that had no political relevance whatsoever?

Agreed, that's why I said morning.

Yay, lets raise americas stupidity another 200%..

Yay, let's make giant ignorant statements.

Oh jesus.

Every person I have come into contact with who is a loyal weed smoker is also dumb as ****. Not ignorant, just calling it like it is, sorry bub.

i actually know many highly intelligent people who smoke weed.... they just aren't so intelligent when they are baked

Same can be said as every alcoholic I know...

Not all pot smokers are 'loyal pot smokers'. Hell I bet theres at least a few people you know smoke it occasionally without you ever even realizing.

Yeah but if its free and legal, chances are its going to be abused more often then not.


Just like I'd imagine theres alot more lushes now then there was back in the prohibition era.

You are aware that Prohibition directly contributed to the rise of organized crime in the country right? Men like Capone would have not enjoyed nearly the amount of success they did had it not been for Prohibition. So yes, people drank less, but there were incredibly negative consequences to Prohibition.

As for the amount of lushes, yes, there were less because the law. But that did not stop people who wanted their alcohol. The levels of people who died as a result of alcohol in that time dramatically increased, because they were forced to make their own. Moonshine was incredibly dangerous at the time.

And out of curiosity, do you believe the sale of tobacco and alcohol should be prohibited today? You seem to be against choice. If someone who is drunk hurts someone or infringes on their rights, then they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But I will not stand here and say someone who wants to drink should not be able to, if they so choose. If it ruins their life, well guess what, they brought it on themselves. Problem is, in this welfare society of ours, people can get by without suffering those ultimate consequences of their actions.

Tell me Onimusha, do you agree with alcohol being legal?

(Wow, if you really can't get that you are basically being led into a trap here to show your absolute stupidity and hypocrisy, then you really ARE stupid)

I bet you know more people than you realize that smoke pot. There are plenty of successful, and intelligent people who smoke pot. The people you come in contact with are probably dumb as **** from the get go.

[edit, I hit post like 10 minutes after I wrote this message]

Woah, you need to lay off the weed dude