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Weed in the house.
2009-01-28, 6:27 PM #41
Does that also prevent smoke from setting off smoke detectors? I can put a johnny over the one in my room, but the smoke might easily set off the one in the corridor (they're incredibly sensitive). Does a vapouriser eliminate smoke, or can i even just use this bounce blower?
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2009-01-28, 6:36 PM #42
Originally posted by mscbuck:
Tell them to buy a vaporizer

This. It's better for you, too. And I might be mistaken but I think it increases absorption rate or absorption volume.
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2009-01-28, 6:47 PM #43
I've never seen a vaporize before in my life. And I'm not shy of staying away from people who smoke, either.
2009-01-28, 6:56 PM #44
Vaporizers evaporate the THC, they don't burn the weed. So yes, it will solve the smoke problem. There are vaporizer pipes which you can use with a lighter and there are also (more expensive) electric ones. The only problem with vaporizing is that the experience is very different for the 'smoker'.
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2009-01-28, 7:03 PM #45
It's winter, it's cold as hell. Let them have their smokes inside. Yell at them in the spring.
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--Garrison Keillor
2009-01-28, 7:14 PM #46
Not my problem, they're going to freeze.
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2009-01-28, 10:23 PM #47
Quote:
This. It's better for you, too. And I might be mistaken but I think it increases absorption rate or absorption volume.


You end up getting more THC out of a vaporizer than from smoking any other way. In the most efficient vaporizer, most often the Volcano, you can get up to 95% of THC by using it. Whereas using other methods like joints, blunts, pipes, etc, all cause the weed and THC to burn, literally, and can cause up to 50% reduction in THC intake, versus the 95% possibility when smoking through a vaporizer. Not to mention, it's incredibly safe. It eliminates all but a few chemicals, and you literally don't even see any smoke, or barely any at all. The high is incredibly more intense due to the larger intake of THC, so you can smoke some of the same weed in a vaporizer that you did in a joint, smoke less of it, and get more high just by using the vapo.

Quote:
Does that also prevent smoke from setting off smoke detectors? I can put a johnny over the one in my room, but the smoke might easily set off the one in the corridor (they're incredibly sensitive). Does a vapouriser eliminate smoke, or can i even just use this bounce blower?


It won't set off a smoke detector. It doesn't eliminate ALL of the smoke, but it definitely gets rid of a ton of it. I would say though that yes, in most cases it practically almost eliminates the smoke.

Problem is, the Volcano runs around $300+.


Sounds like there's some major conflict of interest issues going on here. You need to get over the fact that people, including your friends, smoke pot and that it is now generally accepted as a safe practice, especially by young people. Alternatively, they need to realize that there are people out there, like yourself, that do not like Marijuana or anything to do with it. For whatever reason, both sides see each others arguments as stupid. It's a never ending debate that both sides have to learn to deal with. Unfortunately for the propaganda pushers, they are now losing to scientific fact. But still, it's too bad for you, and it's too bad for them. They're going to smoke whether you like it or not, and you're going to shun them for it whether they want you to or not. And the police probably wouldn't care enough to come over to your place just because a few teenagers are smoking pot in their own home. Depending on where you live of course most definitely (you said UK if i recall correctly, so I cannot say). Although, regardless of that fact, it sounds like everyone needs to relax and sit down and discuss things. If that can't happen, then your next course of action should pretty much be obvious.
2009-01-28, 10:51 PM #48
Maybe JLee can say something different, but I am going to jump on the bandwagon and say calling the cops won't do much. I've had a detective in my living room full of bongs and pipes complaining about my DOG. For the record, I don't do drugs anymore. But I used to do a lot of them, and a detective down the street used to come over the house all the time and not care about the haze of smoke. Nor the cops who pulled hotboxed cars over.
2009-01-28, 10:57 PM #49
Originally posted by RingMaster481:
Honestly you probably should have known better than to move in with smokers if you have a problem with smoke.


I disagree 100%.
As an ex smoker myself, who has lived in my time with many smokers and non's, I can tell you that in (almost) every house I've ever lived in, the smoking has always taken place outside or in the laundry room, and this is including (almost all of) the homes where everyone living there is a smoker.
Smoking makes the house stink and stains the walls. POT smoking makes the house smell of drugs -which I don't actually mind BUT the smell lingers for ages and many non-pot smokers have a sever dislike for the smell.

Move.

If they don't respect you enough to not smoke inside, then, quite frankly, they are inconsiderate dicks. They obviously don't care very much about you, and probably think you need to get over it. This attitude towards you will end up affecting other things, not just the smoking rule. As said before, you aren't going to win this.

Move.

And, don't threaten to move, just move. Threatening might help for a little bit, but it won't last. And if you want to remain friends/friendly with them, then you might want to make up some crapbull story about why you have to leave. But the bottom line is still just

Move.
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2009-01-29, 4:22 AM #50
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Problem is, the Volcano runs around $300+.


So, it's better to try a vaporizer pipe first. They're maybe a little less efficient than the electric ones, but they're cheap.
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2009-01-29, 6:05 AM #51
Quote:
So, it's better to try a vaporizer pipe first. They're maybe a little less efficient than the electric ones, but they're cheap.


Yep. No sense wasting the 300 bucks if you aren't going to use it a lot. Granted, I can't say I know 1 person that has used a vaporizer and not liked the result. It can be a pretty intense/uncomfortable high for some people (due to the incredible amount of THC you get). Suggesting the pipe might be the better alternative for you Oxy since chances are if they're teenagers that smoke Pot, they're broke. :D
2009-01-29, 6:08 AM #52
OP, you're out numbered 3 to 1.

Stop *****ing and suck it up.
2009-01-29, 7:20 AM #53
Can you recommend a good, cheap vapouriser pipe? I found this one:
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Smoke_Bubble_Vaporiser.cfm?iProductID=2062&iProductCategoryID=521
which looks sort of cool, easy to fix on to a bottle bong, or maybe this:
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Eagle_Bill__Shake_amp_Vape_Pipe.cfm?iProductID=3408&iProductCategoryID=738
which just looks exactly like a glass pipe, to be honest. I'm looking for a vapouriser under £40 ($60), but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for.

Also, OP, recommend that site to your friends. I've gotten bongs and jet lighters from there, and they're really good and very reliable. You get free arm bands and sweeties with your orders! They really know their market, heh.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2009-01-29, 9:09 AM #54
Yes, those two are the best. They're also the two best selling vaporizer pipes in the Netherlands.

What I've heard from most people, the Eagle Bill is slightly better than the Smoke Bubble, for durability reasons. It seems the Smoke Bubble breaks more easily. But the Smoke Bubble can be used with a bottle, as shown on that page.

But both should do fine and shouldn't be expensive. You can get them around 15 Euro over here.
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2009-01-29, 9:42 AM #55
Eh, jet lighters as in those mini-torches? I've heard from several places that those are very unsafe to use, since they literally propel the butane out of it and that if you're smoking a bong with it, you ingest quite a fair amount of butane over time.

I am not certain how true that is, but it's definitely something that I didn't want to chance.
2009-01-29, 11:02 AM #56
So use a vaporizer =p
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2009-01-29, 12:03 PM #57
Originally posted by Temperamental:
since they literally propel the butane out of it and that if you're smoking a bong with it, you ingest quite a fair amount of butane over time.

I'm pretty sure the butane burns, so you don't really have any chance of inhaling it.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2009-01-29, 12:24 PM #58
Originally posted by Oxyonagon:
Because I believed them.



biggest mistake youll ever make mate
2009-01-29, 1:50 PM #59
Dude needs to chill out.
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2009-01-29, 2:07 PM #60
oh and dont trust women either, anyway, yeah, get out of that house, if they are busted you will be too, cops dont give a ****
2009-01-29, 9:44 PM #61
That's not true Couchman. Absolutely not true.
2009-01-29, 10:08 PM #62
I'm suprised someone hasn't ranted about how wrong oxy is and how its his roomates right to smoke when and where they want and gone all "omfgEeEEeEe" about the whole situation.

I'm with everyone else. Sell it. If you have a tough neighborhood for pushing, hell your in the UK, just grab a ride to Amsterdam one weekend a month.
"They're everywhere, the little harlots."
-Martyn
2009-01-29, 11:03 PM #63
Originally posted by Temperamental:
That's not true Couchman. Absolutely not true.


What? I don't trust women either
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2009-01-30, 8:08 AM #64
*****es ain't **** but hos and tricks

they also eat dick like eggs and spam
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2009-01-30, 8:39 AM #65
Quote:
What? I don't trust women either


lol although I agree that women are sketchy (men aren't much better), that wasn't what I meant. I was referring to the last part of his post, where he said the cops wouldn't care if he smoked it or not and would arrest or give him crap too... Which is absolutely untrue. If he has no choice over the matter and he lives there, doesn't smoke, doesn't own any bongs, etc and his entire room is clean when they show up, they aren't going to arrest him for Marijuana possession. How could they?
2009-01-30, 8:41 AM #66
My machine vaporizer makes more smell than anything else, but I think that might just be the really bad heating element.
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2009-01-30, 10:33 AM #67
Originally posted by Temperamental:
doesn't own any bongs, etc and his entire room is clean when they show up, they aren't going to arrest him for Marijuana possession. How could they?


Because he lives in a house containing the stuff?
They would certainly arrest him too, he could get let off if he either A: rang the cops in the first place or B: denied knowledge of it's existence.
B only works if it isn't obvious theres pot (so if theres say, a bong in the kitchen he's screwed)
A will only happen if he's an ***
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2009-01-30, 10:44 AM #68
We prefer the term "Dick". An *** is someone who does whatever he wants despite his friends asking him not to in a reasonable manner.
Warhead[97]
2009-01-30, 11:04 AM #69
Hmm, your definition applies there too =p

But actually I ahree, more of a dick then an ***
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2009-01-30, 12:41 PM #70
This thread rocks my Boxxy.

:awesome:



If there is a comfortable middle-ground, try for the bathroom or laundry room when they have smoke sessions. Turn on the fan, open a window, and usually it's fine the next day.
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-Emon
2009-01-30, 12:43 PM #71
I love how a bunch of people in here have talking about the smell being gone the next day. He's talking about smokers... They are going to be smoking every day.
2009-01-30, 12:57 PM #72
smoke weed everyday
2009-01-30, 2:13 PM #73
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2009-01-30, 2:52 PM #74
So now I know why Massassi is green. They are all stoners.
2009-01-31, 12:12 AM #75
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;978804']smoke weed everyday


420
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2009-01-31, 1:45 AM #76
Originally posted by Hombre:
Flush their stuff when they're not around

Yes, flush multiple hundreds of dollars worth of ****.

Good way to get your teeth knocked in.

The best way? Tell them in legal terms, like so:

"So guys, to be honest the smell of weed in the house is bothering me, but I've also been thinking. Say a policeman comes up because of a noise complaint/to find someone/for any reason WHAT so ever, and he knocks on the door. If he opens it, and first thing he smells is weed, that right there is probable cause to search the premises. First thing he finds are the paraphernalia and the marijuana. Then we all get in trouble for possession of an illegal substance, paraphernalia, and god knows what other charges.

Now even if you're willing to risk it, I'm asking for my sake please, PLEASE don't risk my well being over this. If you absolutely MUST smoke inside do so in the bathroom with the window open (or whatever kind of small, closed off room with ventilation of some sort you guys have), somewhere where the smell doesn't stick throughout the house and doesn't potentially put me, someone who doesn't do anything illegal, at risk.

Otherwise I think we might have to rethink our living arrangements."

If they're at all sensible and reasonable this should get through to them. Take it from someone who actually does drugs, and knows how someone would react if you flushed their ****, or were otherwise malicious about it. It's not that big of a deal to them, but it is to you (I don't smoke in my house, or if I do I smoke in my room with my bathroom's vent on then light a candle). Everyone here who has never touched weed, never will, and looks down their nose at anyone who's tried it who is giving you advice will only succeed in creating bad blood or someone getting their *** kicked. Be civil, be cordial, and compromise.

These are also things you learn when living with a roommate, regardless of whether or not the activity is illegal or not.
D E A T H
2009-01-31, 6:32 AM #77
Heh, if you said that, they'd probably just laugh you out of the house. Even with reclassification, the police in the UK are never going to arrest you for possession for personal use, and they certainly won't bother if it's in your own home.

It might be annoying, but it would be a whole lot more annoying if they got ****faced on alcohol regularly instead of smoking weed. This country would be in a much better place if more people smoked weed rather than went out and got wasted.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2009-01-31, 6:37 AM #78
You can't have a recession if everyone is too lazy to have one.
2009-01-31, 1:28 PM #79
Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
Heh, if you said that, they'd probably just laugh you out of the house. Even with reclassification, the police in the UK are never going to arrest you for possession for personal use, and they certainly won't bother if it's in your own home.

It might be annoying, but it would be a whole lot more annoying if they got ****faced on alcohol regularly instead of smoking weed. This country would be in a much better place if more people smoked weed rather than went out and got wasted.

From what I've heard they're talking about cracking down rather harshly on weed. Even for personal use.

Course I haven't done any real research on it, so there's every chance I'm wrong *shrug*, but it's the only thing that I could think of that would sound halfway logical. At least ask them to keep the smoking to their respective bedrooms then. There's nothing you can really do other than that.
D E A T H
2009-02-01, 4:50 AM #80
Yoshi's right... don't flush their stash. It's the most childish thing you can do, and if anything it's the best way to ruin your chances of them cooperating with you in the future.
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