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Are you pro life or pro killing babies?
2009-02-16, 1:51 AM #1
Do you like to see a person's life being spared, or do you like it when someone kills a baby without legal consequences while the helpless baby is still in a womb?

This question is fair and balanced.
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2009-02-16, 1:52 AM #2
Baby killing all the way mate.

I enjoy stamping on a good foetus of a morning.
2009-02-16, 1:52 AM #3
In B4 the flamewar
2009-02-16, 1:55 AM #4
I believe in making people responsible for their mistakes.

I however don't believe that responsibility should ruin someone elses (the baby's) life.
2009-02-16, 1:59 AM #5
Why did you make this thread

Seriously
2009-02-16, 2:05 AM #6
DIE BABY DIE
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2009-02-16, 2:05 AM #7
For discussion
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2009-02-16, 2:16 AM #8
Originally posted by Martyn:
Baby killing all the way mate.

I enjoy stamping on a good foetus of a morning.


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2009-02-16, 2:18 AM #9
Kill and then eat.
2009-02-16, 2:27 AM #10
Kroko, yo momma having regrets again?
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2009-02-16, 3:32 AM #11
Guys I want to discuss abortion and women's rights and all that jazz, I made the opening post ridiculous to attract discussers.
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2009-02-16, 3:42 AM #12
Fine, (spoilsport)

Abortion is ok up to a certain point in the term. That point, I am too busy to put a number to. Without abortion, some babies will be brought up in a life that some would say isn't worth it. I don't really know if being brought up into a life of abuse or terrible poverty is better or worse than being dead because I've (very luckily) had no experience of either.

Oh, and rapist babies are weird.

So yeah, stamp on them.
2009-02-16, 3:47 AM #13
The math on getting preggers from a rape is strongly skewed towards probably not going to happen.
2009-02-16, 3:51 AM #14
True dat. Although unlikely =! impossible.

Just ask [INSERT THE FUNNAY]
2009-02-16, 3:55 AM #15
For example:

Originally posted by Martyn:
True dat. Although unlikely =! impossible.

Just ask mb's mum.


:o
2009-02-16, 3:57 AM #16
I'd love to make a freelancer joke right about now...
2009-02-16, 4:10 AM #17
You do realise that there are possibilities of accidents regardless of whether or not someone is responsible. A bloody freaking undevelopped fetus is not a baby, and won't be a baby for several weeks past the limits of legal abortion deadline.

I say we leave the morale choice to the people in the situation and don't force a decision down their throat. There are several factors to be considered beyond 'omg im a short-sighted idiotic religious moron who thinks abortion is the work of the devil' and 'lolkill!'
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2009-02-16, 5:15 AM #18
Here's something to think about (devil's advocate here):

Some research shows that infant don't become fully self-aware until they're about a year old. Where do you draw the line between fetus and infant? Does that make it okay to kill an infant? Why not?
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2009-02-16, 5:35 AM #19
you didn't add an option for "it's none of my beeswax" so i chose kill.

it's the business of the pregnant woman and maybe the man who impregnated her. no one else's. no one!
2009-02-16, 5:37 AM #20
Now that I've thought on this a little further, the fetus is not actually formed until 8 weeks post fertilization, while the deadline for abortion is around the 20 week mark.

I for one would not be against shortening the actual deadline for legal abortion, though the operation would have to be done almost immediatly once the patient requests one.

In any case, and this is of course my usual giving people too much credit: anyone responsible and mature enough should be able to evalutate and decide whether they want / can support within a week or two after confirming the pregnancy, and thus seek out abortion as early in the process as possible.

Someone who waits 20 weeks is an idiot or is clearly too immature and unable to make decisions for themselves.
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2009-02-16, 6:16 AM #21
DEATH TO THE LITTLEDEMONS!

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2009-02-16, 6:38 AM #22
I say kill 'em all.
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2009-02-16, 6:51 AM #23
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
Kill and then eat.

That's the only time I'm pro baby killing. :tfti:
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2009-02-16, 6:52 AM #24
Technically, every time a male masturbates they commit a genocide that would make Hitler dance in giddiness.
2009-02-16, 6:58 AM #25
Sperm != babies
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2009-02-16, 7:03 AM #26
Just don't Kill and then Eat.
2009-02-16, 7:07 AM #27
:smith:
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2009-02-16, 8:39 AM #28
I find it funny that pro-abortionists might not be here if their parents were also pro-abortionists.

2009-02-16, 8:43 AM #29
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
I find it funny that pro-abortionists might not be here if their parents were also pro-abortionists.


This x100. If abortion was an option for my mother, I wouldn't be here. That alone is a strong case for me to side on the "Pro-Life" fence.
2009-02-16, 8:51 AM #30
So I suppose the fact that white people wouldn't be in North America if we hadn't massacred the Native Americans means you're in favor of genocide? (loopholes in godwin ftw)
2009-02-16, 8:51 AM #31
Thats a pretty ****ing selfish way of thinking, if you ask me. So your parents do not have the right to decide for themselves if they want children or can offer a proper life for their child?
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2009-02-16, 8:58 AM #32
as for personal values i am absolutely against abortion in almost every case, with the exception of rape... still wobbly on that one. however, i also cannot personally condone the government having sway over what is done with ones own body.
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2009-02-16, 9:00 AM #33
Originally posted by Jep:
Thats a pretty ****ing selfish way of thinking, if you ask me. So your parents do not have the right to decide for themselves if they want children or can offer a proper life for their child?


adoption... large market for adopting new born babies. even with the poopy economy.
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2009-02-16, 9:03 AM #34
I see it this way. If the miracle of a sperm cell reaching and fertilizing an egg cell occurs, than this egg cell has the right to develop and be born. There's always adoption.

I am not agaisn't preventing the fertilization of the egg cell, just agaisnt denying it the ability to become a human being.
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2009-02-16, 9:09 AM #35
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
I find it funny that pro-abortionists might not be here if their parents were also pro-abortionists.


My parents are pro choice.
2009-02-16, 9:10 AM #36
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
adoption... large market for adopting new born babies. even with the poopy economy.


I suggest reading A Modest Proposal: For Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland from Being a Burden to Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Public by Jonathan Swift. I find his approach more...appealing.
2009-02-16, 9:16 AM #37
Originally posted by Jep:
Thats a pretty ****ing selfish way of thinking, if you ask me. So your parents do not have the right to decide for themselves if they want children or can offer a proper life for their child?


and besides you cant guarantee you will be able to offer a proper life for your child. sure you can start out prepared, and have better chances. but what if, as is a real possibility today, you just squeezed out a kidling mom is a stay at home and the dad suddenly looses his job and their home gets foreclosed on? you cant just be like "eesh, i dont know if we can provide a proper life for our child... better get rid of him/her..."

if you take out the dogma of "the right to choose" or "religious morality" abortion is largely a matter of convenience. had sex, thought you were "protected"... or not, drew the short end of the straw, and now you find yourself pregnant. now the question is, is it convenient for you to have a baby? if not, you can terminate the pregnancy.
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2009-02-16, 9:16 AM #38
I also find it funny that they call it "pro-choice" when the person it affects the most isn't given a choice.

Well not really funny, more depressing.

2009-02-16, 9:18 AM #39
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
I also find it funny that they call it "pro-choice" when the person it affects the most isn't given a choice.


Except its not a person when its not even a goram fully-formed fetus.
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2009-02-16, 9:19 AM #40
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
I also find it funny that they call it "pro-choice" when the person it affects the most isn't given a choice.

Well not really funny, more depressing.


Fetuses are not able to make decisions.

And don't assume I am pro-choice/pro-killing babies/whatever have you.

Nor am I pro-life/pro-let potential criminals or another human being to deal with be born that will be a contributor to a growing water and food crisis/whatever have you.
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