Shes not ending it, the doctors are.

ok seriously, mistakes happen. it's no ones fault that the condom broke. But having a baby is supposed to be about love. Not about a one night stand. What happens then?

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"i can get my beast going as hard as it will go, but when i go to play my games it cant handle all the action." -scared little monkey talking about his computer

No, the point is that abortion is not the only option.

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<jipe> .. yes, Ubuu, we're racist commy nazi jews, and we hate male pattern baldness
<Professor`K> Sorry, but half-way through your logic, my head exploded

What happens then? You give birth to the child, and atleast put it up for adoption. It's due to your own irresponsibility that you got pregnant in the first place. Having a one-night stand is irresponsible enough, but doing it without considering the risks involved is just idiotic. Don't want a child? Don't have sex. It's that simple.

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Moo.

THANK YOU.

No, seriously, Anyone actually in favor of partial-birth abortion? Anyone? Bueller?

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What's that? They just cut off it's legs or something?

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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

Now, I will admit, there is one absolute scenario where abortion would be appropriate, and that is if the birth would result in the death of both the mother and the child. Better to kill one life and save another, than to let both die.


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Moo.

Um....That has got to be the most ignorant statement I've ever heard. How in the hell is it always the woman's fault? The woman doesn't even ejaculate. Sure, granted there are times where it may be the woman's fault, but I'm sorry to say, 90 % of guys are more interested in sex than an actual relationship, why do you think there are so many single 14 year old moms....Because the dumbass male, sticks his dick in her, gets her pregnant, then runs off.



Um...That's right, I'm telling you that a man that gets a woman who does not want to be pregnant, pregnant, has no right to tell her what to do with the mistake he made. So yeah, **** you too.



How ignorant can you get? There are many people in the world that don't want a child, but like to express their love and affection to their partner. My girlfriend and I are one of these couples. We don't want a child, and if we have one, we intend on aborting it.

And I've known people during my lifetime that have used every form of contraception, and still gotten pregnant.



Hypocrite.

EDIT: If anyone see's what I have said here to be too harsh towards Fat Cow, then I'd like to point out that he attacked me first, (the whole **** you comment's) so....you're damn right I'm gonna attack back.

[This message has been edited by Temperamental (edited August 27, 2004).]

This is a ****ing stupid argument. Sex isn't the only way to express "love and affection" for someone. In fact, it's not even the most important way. Just admit that you like orgasms and so does your girlfriend. If you really love someone, you can wait to stick your penis into them. I love my girlfriend. We don't have sex. Why? It's not neccessary.

Also, that's such a ****ing irresponsible and immature comment at the end. "If we have one, we intend on aborting" like it's a nuisance, a fly that you can merely swat away like you had nothing to ****ing do with it. You're pathetic.



[This message has been edited by powertickle (edited August 27, 2004).]

I'm not even gonna reply to further comments, this is just getting too stupid.

Wanna know somemthing?

It's my life. It's my girlfriend's life. If we chose to abort a child, it's none of your concern. If u wanna look down on me for that, go ahead, because you're opinion on me doesn't even matter to me. And by the way, yes, I like sex, I love orgasms, and I love my girlfriend. And yes, sex is a perfect bonding between two people, that doesn't HAVE to result in a pregnancy. It takes a relationship to the next level..

Man i feel bad for people that don't get the Sunday Night Sex Show..

Ugh.



That has got to be the most ignorant statement I've ever heard. Are you completely unaware of the fact that it takes TWO PEOPLE to have sex? If a man and a woman have consentual sex, and the woman gets pregnant, how the hell is it the man's fault? It took an equal, if not, a greater effort on the woman's part to make it possible in the first place. I'm not saying the man isn't to blame, but definitely not moreso than the woman. And you know why we have so many 14 year old moms? Because 14 is the age that most humans become sexually attracted to one another. Dumbass female lets the dumbass male stick his dick in her, and she gets pregnant. How to prevent this? DON'T LET THE DUMBASS MALE STICK HIS DUMBASS DICK INTO YOUR DUMBASS SELF. Is it that hard to understand? (Apparently, it is.)



Mistake or not, it's still a human life. And neither parent has ANY right WHATSOEVER to end that life. They created it, so they have to deal with the consequences. And I like how you're trying to blame the male again. Did you not receive Sex Ed in school? It takes an equal effort on both parts for the woman to get pregnant. It is as much the woman's fault as it is the man's. There is no arguement here, it's a fact of life.



How ignorant can you get? There's other ways besides sex to express your love and affection. Want to still have sex? Fine. Go ahead and do so. But don't murder a child because of your own mistake.

And that's unfortunate for them. Maybe they shouldn't have had sex in the first place? Now that's a thought...



How is that hypocritical? All of my posts have centered around two main points. The first being, preserving human life. The second being DON'T BE A ****ING MORON. If I had a choice to save one life and lose one life, or to lose two lives, I'd obviously pick the first choice. How does this make me a hypocrite?

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Moo.

Hhahahahahahaha oh my god. You're beyond help. What the **** does the Sunday Night Sex Show have to do with this argument in the first place? Which I've seen by the way. I don't see the correlation between a decrepit 90 year old woman talking about sex toys and orgasms has anything to do with abortion.

And you're right. It doesn't have to result in pregnancy. But if it does, it's your responsibility, and it's your fault, since you knew the consequences. It does not justify abortion. Selfishness really pisses me off.

Our society is sex obsessed, people are controlled by their orgasms. Life isn't all about sex.

News flash. It isn't just your life. It's the child's life. The child has just as much a right to live as you do.

Sex is made for procreation. It is there to create offspring. Let me make a sort of metaphor, here.

You have a brand new, remote controlled model airplane. It is made for flying around and looking shiny. You realize it's more fun to crash the airplane into trees. This is all fine and dandy, as long as you're careful. But then the airplane breaks, so you complain about it. Guess what? It's your own fault. You broke your own stupid airplane. Deal with it.

I'm not saying you can't play with your toys, I'm just saying be careful about it, unless you're willing to deal with the consequences. You can even buy a stronger airplane if you're worried about it breaking.

Okay, sucky metaphor. But if you're stupid enough to have an unwanted pregnancy, you deserve to deal with childbirth. Hell, if you don't want to, there's a multitude of birth control methods on both sides. Pills for male and female, condoms, patches, and such. And don't tell me that people who are careful still get pregnant. If you're smart, and really that zealous about not having a child, there's surgery that can prevent it from happening in the first place. I'd rather see you mutilate your own genitals than to see you kill an unborn child.

It's not just your life.

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Moo.

I think it would help things if CoW and Temperamental just took a couple of deep breaths and cooled down. This really isn't worth getting yourselves banned over.

And, Temperamental, just an FYI: if someone attacks you, it's up to you to play the more mature role and not counter-attack. Stopping it where it starts is easier than stopping it halfway through.

And if anyone takes that statement for an abortion metaphor, I will find you and kill you.

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<ubuu> does hitler have a last name?
<jipe> .. yes, Ubuu, we're racist commy nazi jews, and we hate male pattern baldness
<Professor`K> Sorry, but half-way through your logic, my head exploded

This thread is over... and a couple of you are narrowly escaping temp bans. If you can't debate calmly and rationally here, don't do it.

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