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25% of Republicans believe Obama is the antichrist
2010-03-25, 3:51 AM #1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/7517186/Quarter-of-Republicans-think-Barack-Obama-is-the-Antichrist.html

Funny. And deeply, deeply, scary
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2010-03-25, 3:58 AM #2
I'll only worry if the number is reversed so that 75% of Americans believe he is the antichrist.



Because then I'll know for sure. And yes, I agree that it is extremely frightening for the potential antichrist to be holding such a politically relevant position.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-03-25, 4:13 AM #3
Seriously, imagine if the antichrist was reduced to working for McDonald's or something.

"hi can i has burgar"
"Certainly, though I should note that I SEE DIRECTLY INTO YOUR SOUL AND IT IS VOID OF THE INFLUENCE OF GOD, MAKING YOU AN IDEAL ALLY IN MY RISE TO DOMINATION OVER THE SHEEP THAT ROAM THEIR AIMLESS PATHS!"
"umm okay dude...but i think i'll just have a big mac...oh and fries"
"Oh okay. :("
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-03-25, 5:18 AM #4
Unlikely. The bible is very clear about that.

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42 per cent believed he was "racist,"
Why is "racist" in quotes? Because he's black?

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The poll was carried out by Harris Interactive in an online survey of 2,320 adults.
2010-03-25, 5:39 AM #5
I'll say this:

Of all the candidates, Obama was the best person for the job. Now, having said that, I still didn't go out and vote for him (or anyone else). The reason being that there was something about him that I couldn't quite "put my finger on it" that made me feel like he was hiding an agenda of some sort. Now, this could be terribly misplaced as if I were to run for President, I too would hide my true agenda because my ideas are too far ahead of our times and I wouldn't be electable.

So, because I couldn't figure out if that piece I didn't understand about Obama was good or bad, I erred on the side of caution and didn't vote at all.

So who knows.
2010-03-25, 6:08 AM #6
Online poll might as well not exist. I'd vote anti-christ just for the humor.

Also, I voted McCain, not because I thought McCain was better, but because I thought Obama didn't have a clue as to what he was doing. And no, that wasn't based on his lack of executive experience, but simply from the way he talked. He always spoke of what he wanted to change, but never how.

In any case, the choices sucked.
2010-03-25, 6:12 AM #7
If I would've known then that he was the anti-christ, I would've given him my vote.
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2010-03-25, 7:11 AM #8
If SA had found this poll before it closed it would be closer to 99%.
2010-03-25, 7:16 AM #9
Meh, its based on an internet survey. About 80% of internet users are full of **** and will just post any ridiculous **** they want while sitting behind their comfortable veil of anonimity.
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2010-03-25, 7:22 AM #10
I was talking about this with some of my friends yesterday. Our conclusion was that about 20% of Republicans would agree with any negative statement about Obama, no matter how far-fetched. This is the Tea Party movement's base.

Originally posted by JM:
Why is "racist" in quotes? Because he's black?


No, because they're directly quoting the survey rather than paraphrasing.
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2010-03-25, 7:22 AM #11
This just in: some voters are stupid.
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2010-03-25, 7:23 AM #12
Originally posted by Tibby:
If SA had found this poll before it closed it would be closer to 99%.


Not a public poll.

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Methodology

This Harris Poll was conducted online within the United States March 1 and 8, 2010 among 2,320 adults (aged 18 and over). Figures for age, sex, race/ethnicity, education, region and household income were weighted where necessary to bring them into line with their actual proportions in the population. Propensity score weighting was also used to adjust for respondents' propensity to be online.

All sample surveys and polls, whether or not they use probability sampling, are subject to multiple sources of error which are most often not possible to quantify or estimate, including sampling error, coverage error, error associated with nonresponse, error associated with question wording and response options, and post-survey weighting and adjustments. Therefore, Harris Interactive avoids the words "margin of error" as they are misleading. All that can be calculated are different possible sampling errors with different probabilities for pure, unweighted, random samples with 100% response rates. These are only theoretical because no published polls come close to this ideal.

Respondents for this survey were selected from among those who have agreed to participate in Harris Interactive surveys. The data have been weighted to reflect the composition of the adult population. Because the sample is based on those who agreed to participate in the Harris Interactive panel, no estimates of theoretical sampling error can be calculated.

The results of this Harris Poll may not be used in advertising, marketing or promotion without the prior written permission of Harris Interactive.

These statements conform to the principles of disclosure of the National Council on Public Polls.
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2010-03-25, 8:19 AM #13
I remember thinking Bill Clinton was the antichrist.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

It's Hillary.
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2010-03-25, 8:26 AM #14
The republicans who think he's the "antichrist" aren't HALF as stupid as the black people who ONLY voted for Obama because a) he's black ... and b) therefore will give the blacks of america loads of money for sitting on their arses, just because... they're black, and ... Obama is black.

This is why your country has a bad rap for intelligence. You should hunt stupid people down, like we are beginning to do with chavs
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2010-03-25, 8:29 AM #15
Originally posted by Ruthven:
The republicans who think he's the "antichrist" aren't HALF as stupid as the black people who ONLY voted for Obama because a) he's black ... and b) therefore will give the blacks of america loads of money for sitting on their arses, just because... they're black, and ... Obama is black.


Trust me, there's plenty of whites, mexicans, blacks, and all races and creeds that voted for Obama because he'll give them free stuff. Stupidity is colorblind. The real question is, if you eliminated all the stupid voters on both sides, would he still have won? It is a question that is unanswerable.
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2010-03-25, 8:34 AM #16
They're going to be so disappointed.
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2010-03-25, 8:36 AM #17
Originally posted by Ruthven:
The republicans who think he's the "antichrist" aren't HALF as stupid as the black people who ONLY voted for Obama because a) he's black ...

Stay classy Ruthven
2010-03-25, 8:47 AM #18
Originally posted by Ruthven:
The republicans who think he's the "antichrist" aren't HALF as stupid as the black people who ONLY voted for Obama because a) he's black ... and b) therefore will give the blacks of america loads of money for sitting on their arses, just because... they're black, and ... Obama is black.


That's not true. They're at least half as stupid. And there are a lot more of them.
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2010-03-25, 8:52 AM #19
Ruthven's "black people" (way over-represented by Fox & friends via racial dog-whistling) were largely from very poor backgrounds. There's a big difference between being poor and uneducated and being totally ****ing retarded.

These Republicans are also a creation of Fox, in part, just the other way.
2010-03-25, 8:56 AM #20
Before the election, my aunt met a black guy in a random gas station, overheard him telling the attendant that he couldn't wait for Obama to be elected. She asked him why, and his exact words as she said were "Because Obama is going to give me a good job!"

This man, probably voted for Obama. All on the thought that he was promised a better job if he did. The best law we'll never have is a intelligence test required to pass before voting. It could be easier than elementary national standardized testing, and would probably eliminate thousands of votes that really shouldn't be cast. To clarify, I'm not being racist here and saying black people are dumb. I'm saying dumb people (exceptionally dumb at that) should not be allowed to vote in that they typically know nothing about the candidate other than what is thrown around in the media. Which, as we all know, is trash.
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2010-03-25, 9:16 AM #21
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
Before the election, my aunt met a black guy in a random gas station, overheard him telling the attendant that he couldn't wait for Obama to be elected. She asked him why, and his exact words as she said were "Because Obama is going to give me a good job!"

This man, probably voted for Obama. All on the thought that he was promised a better job if he did. The best law we'll never have is a intelligence test required to pass before voting. It could be easier than elementary national standardized testing, and would probably eliminate thousands of votes that really shouldn't be cast. To clarify, I'm not being racist here and saying black people are dumb. I'm saying dumb people (exceptionally dumb at that) should not be allowed to vote in that they typically know nothing about the candidate other than what is thrown around in the media. Which, as we all know, is trash.

And your aunt just goes around telling this anecdote about how she heard a black guy say something stupid?
2010-03-25, 9:43 AM #22
If so many black people voted for Obama simply because he was black, why is it then that black Republicans such as Alan Keyes get very little support from blacks? The idea that a lot of black people voted for Obama simply because he was black is stupid. It also has something to do w/ the fact that he was a Democrat. If you put a black Republican like Alan Keyes up against a white Democrat, he'll lose when it comes to support from blacks. There are stupid blacks, stupid whites, stupid Democrats, stupid Republicans, stupid Christians & stupid Atheists. Can't we just leave it at that?
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2010-03-25, 9:57 AM #23
Originally posted by Mentat:
The idea that a lot of black people voted for Obama simply because he was black is stupid
...
There are stupid blacks, stupid whites, stupid Democrats, stupid Republicans, stupid Christians & stupid Atheists. Can't we just leave it at that?


Your second point doesn't support the first one here. There WERE a lot of black people that voted for Obama just because he was black. But as you point out, there's stupid everywhere, and there were also a lot of white people that voted for McCain just because he WASN'T black.

Anyway, completely ignoring race, it'd be great if there were a way to test for stupid before letting people vote, but you can't test for that kind of stupid. It's asking for trouble.
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2010-03-25, 10:25 AM #24
This thread is stupid, too. The poll is stupid. Back when Bush was in office, I bet greater than that percentage thought Bush was the anticrist. Well, maybe not, do democrats believe in Christ?

Regardless, I worked as a contractor at [some company in seattle] at the time, and my coworkers created signs and went and picketed when Bush or Cheney came into the State. Anti-Bush rallies were extremely common. The democrats here were foaming-at-the-mouth crazy mad psychotic against anything Bush said, proposed, implied, or did.

It was a lot worse than these teabaggers or whatever they call themselves.

Of course, maybe I just don't see all the teabagging going on because practically everyone up here in western WA is a die-hard democrat.
2010-03-25, 10:27 AM #25
My point is that they didn't only vote for him because he was black. They also voted for him because he was a Democrat. They wouldn't have come out in masses like they did for Obama in support of Alan Keyes (they didn't when he ran in the past), even before he filed his "birther" lawsuit, if he was the Republican nominee because it's a popular view amongst blacks that the Republican ideology is contrary to the social policies & programs that blacks typically support. What I'm saying is that it's not a simple black & white (no pun intended) matter. It's more complicated that "he's black, I'm black, therefore he gets my vote". There are always a few people that will vote on nothing more than race but that's an insignificant minority that isn't even interesting to discuss.
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2010-03-25, 10:28 AM #26
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Well, maybe not, do democrats believe in Christ?

Unfortunately, the majority of Democrats & Republicans are Christians. :(

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It was a lot worse than these teabaggers or whatever they call themselves.

I don't think that it was nearly as bad when you take the threats & things of that nature in to consideration. Also, a lot of that had to do w/ the view that Bush stole the election(s).
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2010-03-25, 10:42 AM #27
Originally posted by Brian:
This thread is stupid, too. The poll is stupid. Back when Bush was in office, I bet greater than that percentage thought Bush was the anticrist. Well, maybe not, do democrats believe in Christ?

Since we're sharing anecdotes, I live in one of the most liberal parts of California and I never met ONE person who thought that. People hated him, sure, but nobody went so far as to think he was literally the harbinger of the apocalypse. I have, however, met people who think Obama is the antichrist.

Mentat has it right on the head with the race stuff.
2010-03-25, 10:51 AM #28
Originally posted by Mentat:
Unfortunately, the majority of Democrats & Republicans are Christians. :(


This is somewhat of a misnomer - as far as I can tell, most Christians have a set of beliefs and a moral code which is largely contradictory to what most politicians believe. It's similar to how every drunk, drug-addicted, adulterous pop star who wins an award says 'And thanks to Jesus for being my #1." Doesn't sound very "Christian" as I have come to understand the meaning.

It's in name only, and only for self-advancement purposes.
2010-03-25, 11:00 AM #29
I'm referring to people that consider themselves to be Christian. It's impossible to know what people actually think so we only have what they say to go on. Also, there were some pretty bad dudes in the old testament committing more atrocious acts than anyone in Hollywood ever imagined.
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2010-03-25, 11:02 AM #30
I think it's a little more complicated than that (@Steven). I know people who honestly consider themselves Christians and believe in God and Jesus and this that and the third, and some of them use all type of drugs, are total sluts, etc. There's a huge range of devoutness--even the Westboro Baptists don't follow the Bible to the letter.
2010-03-25, 11:12 AM #31
I was a Fundamentalist Christian (Pentecostal) in my youth. I truly believed, yet I used to have sex, do drugs & get drunk just like just about everyone else my age & more often than not it was w/ other people that believed. I believed that I had a gift from god (the holy ghost/spirit), that I was chosen by god before my birth & that he would forgive me for any sin except for blaspheming against the holy ghost/spirit. I'm an Atheist but the church & its followers (including my parents) refuse to believe that I'm not a Christian, even when I blaspheme against the holy ghost/spirit in front of their faces because they truly believe that I was chosen. In other words, don't ever pretend to speak in tongues to be accepted amongst your peers because they'll never let it go.
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2010-03-25, 11:18 AM #32
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;1072466']I think it's a little more complicated than that (@Steven).


That's exactly my point - you can't say "It's a shame so many politicians are Christian." It doesn't matter what they call themselves, it matters how they behave and vote, as you and Mentat have both pointed out.
2010-03-25, 11:31 AM #33
Originally posted by Mentat:
I'm referring to people that consider themselves to be Christian. It's impossible to know what people actually think so we only have what they say to go on. Also, there were some pretty bad dudes in the old testament committing more atrocious acts than anyone in Hollywood ever imagined.

Yeah but they were all Jewish. :ninja:
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2010-03-25, 11:33 AM #34
I agree w/ you to an extent. I would personally define someone as a Christian if they at least attempt to adhere to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. However, when I was a boy, I didn't think that I was doing anything wrong. For instance, I didn't see anything wrong w/ drinking alcohol. Jesus himself supposedly turned water in to wine & even drank fermented wine. I believed that his teachings against drunkenness only applied to alcoholics, not those that occasionally became drunk (e.g. "to eat, to drink & to be merry"). There are many different interpretations of scripture & various denominations make various justifications for certain things. There's really no way to say who is Christian & who isn't because of examples like mine. I guess that all I'm saying is that just because someone doesn't appear to one group/individual to be adhering to his teachings doesn't mean that another group/individual will agree & there's no real way to determine who's correct because of the confusion that is the bible.
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2010-03-25, 11:35 AM #35
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Yeah but they were all Jewish.

True, but they were following the same god (the god of Abraham). I get your point though. You're saying that the atrocities are only relevant when they happen after Jesus because he changed the game. I won't disagree that this is one way of looking at it.

P.S. Are we having a flashback from the days of the religious forum? Haha! My apologies for contributing to getting this thread off-topic.
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2010-03-25, 11:39 AM #36
Idiocy aside, I'm kind of glad we don't live in a world where voting rights are turned into a privilege. "Testing for stupid" is horrible. Even the stupid have a right to vote for who they see fit.

It's also terribly subjective. "X won. I hate X, and if stupid people weren't allowed to vote, X wouldn't have won."
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2010-03-25, 11:46 AM #37
Originally posted by Yecti:
Even the stupid have a right to vote for who they see fit.

Further, I'd argue that this is irrelevant. You can't objectively decide who is stupid. Someone has to design the test and that party will become way too powerful.
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2010-03-25, 11:48 AM #38
Originally posted by Yecti:
It's also terribly subjective. "X won. I hate X, and if stupid people weren't allowed to vote, X wouldn't have won."


Exactly.
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2010-03-25, 12:00 PM #39
Originally posted by Steven:
That's exactly my point - you can't say "It's a shame so many politicians are Christian." It doesn't matter what they call themselves, it matters how they behave and vote, as you and Mentat have both pointed out.


Fair enough!:awesome:
2010-03-25, 1:25 PM #40
Originally posted by Emon:
Further, I'd argue that this is irrelevant. You can't objectively decide who is stupid. Someone has to design the test and that party will become way too powerful.


Further, you'd argue the rest of my post. I'm glad we're in agreement. :)
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