Bahahahahahahahahaha to that? Seriously? If a little boob jiggle gets her that excited, someone needs to introduce the poor girl to the world of internet porn and keep her away from gyms and public parks for a while.

But seriously - a 13 year old would notice boobs. A 4 year old really wouldn't. Or at least not in a sexual sense.

Hey **** you Sesame Street is awesome.

At least it used to be.

The animation where they teach you to count to 12 is the best.

Um... Seriously?? Shielding you kids is a bad idea? I can easily see how isolating your kids from the world is bad... But taking reasonable steps to try and make sure they are not exposed to inappropriate stuff when possible is not "a bad idea". I'm not saying don't let them watch tv, just if your going to subscribe to skinimax, for god sake put parental controlls on it.
That aside I think the hubbub over this is hilarious.

ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE

SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE TEN

ELEVEN TWE-E-E-ELVE

I was watching Elmo when he was on the screen. He has weird legs.



I've never seen the whole thing.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I figured it was just because of "I kissed a girl and I liked it."

Because if a kid is watching Katy Perry on Seasame Street and they think "Oh she's fun and cool!" they'll get on their computer and youtube Katy Perry and be tricked into thinking it's alright for girls to kiss girls and then they'll turn into bulldyke lesbians and stop going to church and Jesus will be mad and then the world will collapse because terrists.

But... girls kissing girls is awesome!

what's a kissing girls?

Don't know if you were mocking me, but I never said anywhere music is the devil. I cherish music, and after exploring a wide variety of music genres and talents as well as playing trumpet for about 10 years now, I like to think I know when I hear something worth while.

I'm not one of those people that hates new modern music just to be a stubborn jackass, because I do like a ton of newer music, it's just that Katy Perry is nothing special. She sold out, will have her moment of glory, and fade away.

Time never lies, look at how old some of the music is people love today, it is centuries old. Can anyone honestly say Perry will be remotely famous or even known in that amount of time?

Honestly? I can't tell the future

Way to take what I said and twist it into something else entirely.

It's easy, all you do is look at the past.

Didn't I create a thread about songs that seemed awesome as little as 10 years ago, but now looking back we can see how lame most of them were?

I hope this forum is still around in 10 years so I can post the video for California Gurls so all of you can face palm at some gospel musician gone total bimbo.

Why is Snoop Dogg even featured in that song? What happened to his whole gangster act? What happened to dragging around two women on leashes? (See 2003 MTV Awards). My guess is that he finally sold out too and had to be in some lousy pop song just to get his name on whatever moronic teenagers happen to be listening to.

Dumb.

The past tells me things are unpredictable.



Yes and I disagreed with a lot of that thread. But that's beside the point. I'm not saying Katy is going to be huge forever, I'm just saying that it can be quite surprising what becomes a classic and what doesn't.

Fascinating.



I'm just going to assume you meant decades because I don't know anyone that's putting on records of some 17th century spanish concerto or whatever but implying that any of the great classics that people still love didn't sell the **** out in their day or that "selling out" is somehow detrimental to the quality or worth of their music is some of the most ignorant, head-up-your-arse, self-righteous crap I've ever read that it has caused me to throw punctuation out the window and craft a long-winded approach to saying you're pretty ****ing arrogant.

Snoop Dogg selling out?

WHEN THE HELL did it become all about money to SNOOP DOGG!?!? What is this world coming to?!

Shielding them reality is wrong, and sex is something they'll need to know about one day. But is Sesame Street where you want to springboard that conversation?


And I think Jin is right about kids going to their computers and Youtubing Katy Perry. They're learning a lot about sexuality that they don't need to at this point. Eventually they do, but Sesame Street is not the age to be explaining drunken frat party hook ups.

Well, fine. But who said anything about Sesame Street? That clip doesn't have sexuality or drunken frat party hookups in any form.

What age group are we talking here? Old enough to google a specific actor on Sesame Street but too young to have heard of Katy Perry in any other context?

uh...

?

*raises hand*

(Except, of course, for the fact that the 'concerto' as we think of it today wasn't really invented until fairly late in the 17th century.)

People are crazy these days. Like Emon said, the only thing sexual about the video is the way people are making it out to be sexual just because there's an attractive female in the video who happens to be wearing an outfit that very slightly shows off her hard to hide larger than normal breasts. It's not like they're putting close ups of her constantly saying "HERE THEY ARE" with the camera. If you notice them, you just happen to be a normal human being.

I'm pretty sure that even if they had her in a Burka they'd probably still find some way to complain about it.

And Classical music is some of the best music ever created.

Oh man you KNOW they'd be asterixing about a burka

You watched any of Katy Perry's other videos?

It's nothing to do with Seasame Street at this point. It's the possibility that young children will see Katy Perry on the show, either recognise her or the song, and then want to see more of her. It's not that it could lead them to seeing things that they shouldn't see, but more that they aren't going to understand the context for what they are seeing.

It's not even about what she was wearing. I don't think kids would see that and think "that makes girls attractive" or "I want to bury my face in there." It's just that Katy Perry does kind of flaunt sexuality in her performances and it's difficult to put that into context for a kid so they understand it's just entertainment and not some fundamental of life.

What the **** is the point of even having that song on Seasame Street anyway? It's not teaching them anything they'll understand.

Jessica Alba was once a guest star on the show. Did all the kids go watch The Killer Inside Me?

Tyra Banks was a guest star. She's literally made a career our of her body.

Corbin Bernsen was a guest star. Probably should stop the kids from ever watching The Dentist.

Beyonce guest starred... she's never been remotely sexual, right?

Jason Biggs... Though I don't think he banged a pie in his episode or anything.

Jack Black... The kids probably all listened to Tenacious D afterward, right?

Wayne Brady didn't choke a ***** in his guest appearance.

Johnny Cash appeared several times. He wasn't always a model citizen was he? He made songs about life in prison ffs.

Kim Cattral made an appearance... not renowned for slutty characters at all....

Cher was on the show... I hope none of the kids youtubed that and saw her Turn Back Time video.

Anderson Cooper... and there's rumors that he's gay too! how could they put him on the show?

Billy Crystal... Jesus... I hope the kids don't look up his stand up.

Robert De Niro was on the show... need I say more?

I mean, if we want to discuss people who've made various types of entertainment media that shouldn't be viewed by Sesame Street's target demographic, we can go on and on here....

Danny DeVito
Cameron Diaz
Edie Falco
Dennis Franz
James Gandolfini
Ricky Gervais
Mel Gibson
Whoopie Goldberg
Jeff Goldblum
John Goodman
Gilbert Gottfried
Seth Green


I mean... we're not even through the G's yet. Please, people, do grow up.

EDIT: Ice T was on the show, ffs. Cop Killer, anyone?

I loved that Alice Cooper was in the Muppet Show as an agent of the devil trying to barter Kermit's soul

I don't see what the big deal is, video looks fine for young kids.

If the children in question are so young that they shouldn't be able to google katy perry and see some jiggle on youtube, then why do they have unsupervised internet access?

Bahahaha

But Mirth:

a) I'm pretty sure that video on Sesame Street isn't going to springboard any discussions about sex. It's not like she was overly sexual, or did anything that would lead to questions; it was just a little boob jiggle. Like I said, no real different than seeing someone jogging in a park.

b) Kids who watch Sesame Street should not be having unsupervised internet access, as Connection Problem just said.

I'd be concerned if my 13 year old daughter wasn't masturbating. I just wouldn't want to know about it.

No-one else got the Big Bird and the bees talk?

It's funny, because I never said anywhere in my post that I play jazz. But seeing as how you can only connect a trumpet with one genre shows just how much you know about music.

From what I got out of your post, the fact that you don't know anyone listening to baroque or classical music tells me you're probably a scene kid who kisses ass to whichever celebrity the majority of you're peers like.

Also, when I refer to "selling out", I am refering to the quality of their character. She reminds me a sheltered catholic school girl that hits college and has so much freedom her hormones don't know what to do next.

Wow.

That sort of absolutely ridiculous generalisation annoys the living hell out of me.

For the record, I don't know a single person who listens Classical or Baroque music who is under the age of fifty -- and even then, most of the people I know over that age still don't.

You're acting just as much like a scene kid as you claim he is. Grow up.

I don't listen to Classical or Baroque much (though who doesn't love some Bach from time to time) but I do love Romantic music - Schubert, Schumann, Debussy, Wolf, Faure, Beethoven, though he's generally considered Classical. And I'm only 23. But the point is I listen to that and still enjoy me some Britney Spears, Rhianna, The Script, The Killers, and a whole weird mix of people, many of whom have probably "sold out." Doesn't really relate to the issue of why people are freaking out that Katy Perry's boobs bounced as she ran on Sesame Street.

I listen to a bit of classical, but don't know anyone else who does.

That's some idiotic nonsense, though. What if someone said "the fact that you don't know anyone who likes baseball means you don't know any real americans"?

What an idiotic statement.

The term "Selling Out" has been fairly silly and outdated since, yknow, the 80s happened.

Yeah, pretty much after Metallica "sold out"

<SRG> Metallica sold out in 45 mins :/
<NotOneOfUs> Yeah I know.
<NotOneOfUs> Oh wait
<NotOneOfUs> You mean, like, a concert?
<SRG> yes


Also, I listen to classical when I'm trying to work, although there's a lot of.. new... classical... that I really like. Philip Glass, for example, is boss.

you guys are all elitists. especially ECHOMAN

I've never really listened to Philip Glass, but his name was brought up I think in one of my Theory classes way back in the day and I was intrigued

Screw you mr "I play jazz"!