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We finally got that wikileaks dick.
2010-12-07, 9:17 PM #41
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Do all white people salute the American flag now?


And by the way this makes absolutely no sense at all!

I think Im going to put you on ignore any way because I dont feel like wasting my time with you.
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2010-12-07, 9:21 PM #42
"I can't properly argue at a 4th grade level, I'M IGNORING YOU LALALA" :saddowns:.
2010-12-07, 9:24 PM #43
Darth Dan: he was making fun of you for saying it was treason, when the only way it could be treason would be if he were American.
2010-12-07, 9:25 PM #44
Originally posted by Tibby:
Psst, It's not treason. He isn't an American.


So correct me then, what exactly do you consider the type of violation he committed, and what does it matter if I said it was treason or not. What he did was a violation of the security of a nation and jon'c probably supports the ideas of assange for all we know.
He who controls the spice controls the universe-
2010-12-07, 9:28 PM #45
Originally posted by Tibby:
"I can't properly argue at a 4th grade level, I'M IGNORING YOU LALALA" :saddowns:.


Thats because you haven't gratuated Kindergarten yet.
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2010-12-07, 9:30 PM #46
He isn't guilty of anything except being a moron with a death wish.

The people who gave him the information are the guilty ones.
2010-12-07, 9:31 PM #47
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
Isn't this considered treason? and didn't they use to execute people with such an atrocity long time ago, of course times have changed since then.


Originally posted by Jon`C:
How, exactly, do you think it is treason for an Australian man to damage American interests?


I guess I should've rephrased my previous post. I should've put "politicians and political pundits and massassi forum members have either shown themselves to be very very smart, or very very very very very stupid", with more emphasis on the latter.
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2010-12-07, 9:31 PM #48
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
So correct me then, what exactly do you consider the type of violation he committed, and what does it matter if I said it was treason or not. What he did was a violation of the security of a nation and jon'c probably supports the ideas of assange for all we know.

He didn't, unless America suddenly got rid of all it's rights and freedoms that they live by.
2010-12-07, 9:33 PM #49
Lol, the IDEAS OF ASSANGE! It's funny that a lot of people think that Assange is some looney. He believes in the role for government, he believes in free markets, and he believes in accountability of the government. Why does this make him either 1. such a looney or 2. so different than millions of other people who believe in that.
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2010-12-07, 9:33 PM #50
Originally posted by Baconfish:
I'm quoting this for hilarity before it can be edited.


Oh baco, you grammar nazi, you.
2010-12-07, 9:34 PM #51
Originally posted by Tibby:
He didn't, unless America suddenly got rid of all it's rights and freedoms that they live by.


Darth Dan is living proof that free speech is a horrible idea.
2010-12-07, 9:35 PM #52
I'm only posting this in this thread, although there are many "hurr" threads right now, but you people are a bunch of idiots. And people like Darth Dan (please don't take offense to this, it's not personal) need to learn how to frame their arguments. It doesn't matter what country Assange hails from. Numerous nations and international security has been harmed by what his organization has done. While they all can't hold him as "treasonous", by the strictest definition, surely his estranged home country could. Seems ignorant to say that only Americans can be accused of treason.

Note that I am not commenting on the legitimacy of Assange's operation nor the legality of its publishing sensitive material.
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2010-12-07, 9:36 PM #53
Originally posted by mscbuck:
Lol, the IDEAS OF ASSANGE! It's funny that a lot of people think that Assange is some looney. He believes in the role for government, he believes in free markets, and he believes in accountability of the government. Why does this make him either 1. such a looney or 2. so different than millions of other people who believe in that.


Because he has attacked AMERICA.

This Australian TRAITOR has attacked AMERICA by using his GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS and deserves to be EXECUTED for TREASON.

TREASON against AMERICA.
2010-12-07, 9:39 PM #54
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
He isn't guilty of anything except being a moron with a death wish.

The people who gave him the information are the guilty ones.


Thank you CM for talking to me at an adult level and not like some of these little preteens we have here. I stand correct. I wasn't sure if this was an act of treason or some other violation that this idiot has commited. I think what he did would be considered a sabotage of a nations security and should be punishable of some sort.

I respect your open mindedness in regards to my misunderstandings.
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2010-12-07, 9:40 PM #55
ONLY AMERICA COUNTS!
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2010-12-07, 9:40 PM #56
edit: For Wookie, since Dan seems to have gotten up to speed.

Seriously? Nobody said only Americans can be accused of treason. They said that the AMERICAN government can't accuse an AUSTRALIAN of treason.

Please re-read that^.

And once more.

Now maybe it's sunk in.
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2010-12-07, 9:41 PM #57
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
Thank you CM for talking to me at an adult level and not like some of these little preteens we have here. I stand correct. I wasn't sure if this was an act of treason or some other violation that this idiot has commited. I think what he did would be considered a sabotage of a nations security and should be punishable of some sort.

I respect your open mindedness in regards to my misunderstandings.


ITT the dumbest person on these forums... uh... posting. You know what? The fact that he's posting is bad enough. I don't even need to elaborate.
2010-12-07, 9:41 PM #58
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Darth Dan is living proof that free speech is a horrible idea.


jon'c is living proof that communism is a horrible idea!
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2010-12-07, 9:43 PM #59
How did he hurt America. Prove this.
Prove a direct correlation between Wikileaks and American lives being harmed.
2010-12-07, 9:43 PM #60
Originally posted by Wookie06:
I'm only posting this in this thread, although there are many "durr" threads right now, but you people are a bunch of idiots. And people like Darth Dan (please don't take offense to this, it's not personal) need to learn how to frame their arguments. It doesn't matter what country Assange hails from. Numerous nations and international security has been harmed by what his organization has done. While they all can't hold him as "treasonous", by the strictest definition, surely his estranged home country could. Seems ignorant to say that only Americans can be accused of treason.

Note that I am not commenting on the legitimacy of Assange's operation nor the legality of its publishing sensitive material.


Except that time and time again, the government has come out and said that actually, the logs aren't THAT big a deal. Everyone went on and on about the Afghan logs going to put lives at risk, but almost all the agencies, and even Gates himself, said that there were no lives at risk, and UN couldn't find people either. With this latest release, it's pretty uncertain so far if any of the "hitlist" was really that important (link: here ).

And how can you deny that Wikileaks has uncovered much good as well, exposing government corruption, human rights violations, etc.
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2010-12-07, 9:45 PM #61
Hey Darth Dan: I know you haven't literally added me to your ignore list (because you can't, the forums won't let you) so I know you're simply trying to exercise a kind of restraint that is uncommon for people in your age/income/political affiliation/educational bracket. So, even though you're going to pretend you can't read this in order to save face over the fact that you're blisteringly wrong at everything and have the rhetorical skill of a gay manlove-baby between Nixon and Bush Jr. with trisomy-21, we both know you're going to read what I say and stew over it for a while:

if you think you're smarter than us (you aren't,) and you don't find our form of sarcasm funny (you can't, because you aren't even literate enough to tell when tibby is being sarcastic,) how about you **** off? Go back to Militant Hippies dot com or wherever you came from. I don't even know why you're here.
2010-12-07, 9:49 PM #62
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
jon'c is living proof that communism is a horrible idea!


I'm sure the world must look very different, having grown up under a semi-fascist Christian police state which lied to you about how scary and powerful the Soviets were to get you to vote for them, but among those of us who are sub-ancestral and/or capable of operating the strange device known as a "book" the word 'communism' has very little power and is not even credible as an insult.
2010-12-07, 9:54 PM #63
Originally posted by Jon`C:
ITT the dumbest person on these forums... uh... posting. You know what? The fact that he's posting is bad enough. I don't even need to elaborate.


And that makes you intelligent?
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2010-12-07, 9:58 PM #64
Originally posted by Jon`C:
More alarming: if you think Assange has committed treason, do you also think the 9/11 attacks were acts of treason?

Why not?

Because Assange is white, and the terrorists were brown?

Do all white people salute the American flag now?


The Glorious Christian Anglosphere will not tolerate any more of your SLANDED, Sir. :mad:
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2010-12-07, 10:03 PM #65
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
And that makes you intelligent?

You already pulled the "I can't win, so I'm putting you on Ignore" card, it's bad form to keep arguing.
2010-12-07, 10:08 PM #66
Tibby, you have a little bit of Jon'C dick stuck between your teeth.
Little angel go away
Come again some other day
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2010-12-07, 10:15 PM #67
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Hey Darth Dan: I know you haven't literally added me to your ignore list (because you can't, the forums won't let you) so I know you're simply trying to exercise a kind of restraint that is uncommon for people in your age/income/political affiliation/educational bracket. So, even though you're going to pretend you can't read this in order to save face over the fact that you're blisteringly wrong at everything and have the rhetorical skill of a gay manlove-baby between Nixon and Bush Jr. with trisomy-21, we both know you're going to read what I say and stew over it for a while:

if you think you're smarter than us (you aren't,) and you don't find our form of sarcasm funny (you can't, because you aren't even literate enough to tell when tibby is being sarcastic,) how about you **** off? Go back to Militant Hippies dot com or wherever you came from. I don't even know why you're here.


Well every thing you said about me as if you know me, but I hate to dissappoint you, you are way off from your description of me. Im to young to be a hippie and I am not smarter than anyone here. You might think you are, but I am not stupid, and intelligent people dont dominate a forum and intimidate others with their so-called intelligence or arrogance. Why am I here you ask? because I am a member of the Massassi website...pretty simple answer I think.

And I also refuse to leave because its my right to be here and Im not going to let a pompous figure such as you chase me away. So go ahead with your getting the last word in. "Mr ****ing Bag of Hammers".
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2010-12-07, 10:21 PM #68
So, uh, I don't know why people think this is a threat to national security (at least of the US) when Robert "****ing" Gates says it isn't.

The two war leaks amounted to a bunch of INTSUMS detailing how much analysts couldn't stand their CO and the local sheikh. The gunship video, definitely not dangerous to national security.

I haven't looked into these cables yet, but people are being douchebags about this.

Also I think Jons gout is just acting up again. He'll be fine in a few days.
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2010-12-07, 10:32 PM #69
I think what bothers me most about this whole thing is that Americans are more upset that military secrets are brought to light than they are that the military is trying to hide these things to begin with (in regards to things like civilians killed while military officials lie about it).
Little angel go away
Come again some other day
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2010-12-07, 11:01 PM #70
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
Well every thing you said about me as if you know me, but I hate to dissappoint you, you are way off from your description of me.


Apparently I'm not far off in the parts that really matter, because you don't even know what the word 'treason' means. Just that simple fact, alone, means you have a two-dimensional understanding of many of the metaphorical and symbolic foundations of discourse in the English language.

Your original comment is roughly on par with reading a story about a local business taking on the new Walmart Supercenter and saying, "This don't make sense, David's 'sposed to be the big one."

You can't seriously believe you are a smart person.
2010-12-07, 11:21 PM #71
Man, I'm still bummed that my great Finnish gubernmental sekrets aren't worth a penny to them. :argh:
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2010-12-07, 11:42 PM #72
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I'm sure the world must look very different, having grown up under a semi-fascist Christian police state which lied to you about how scary and powerful the Soviets were to get you to vote for them, but among those of us who are sub-ancestral and/or capable of operating the strange device known as a "book" the word 'communism' has very little power and is not even credible as an insult.


I really really really like this post. I'm stealing this phrasing and argument next time someone says "communist" with malice.
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2010-12-08, 12:46 AM #73
Originally posted by Baconfish:
I'm quoting this for hilarity before it can be edited.


The best part is that it got edited and is still hilarious :neckbeards:

Originally posted by Spook:
So, uh, I don't know why people think this is a threat to national security


This.

And yeah, Julian Assange is (obviously) not guilty of treason. Since he's not subject to American jurisdiction and probably never will be, anything else he might be charged with is entirely academic.

To preempt one line of discussion that often comes up in conversations about WikiLeaks, Bradley Manning is also not guilty of treason, even though he's an American. Bradley Manning may be guilty of a violation of the Espionage Act. To further preempt that line of discussion, Bradley Manning is almost certainly not guilty of any violation of the Espionage Act that carries the death penalty.
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2010-12-08, 1:14 AM #74
Originally posted by Darth Dan:
So correct me then, what exactly do you consider the type of violation he committed, and what does it matter if I said it was treason or not. What he did was a violation of the security of a nation and jon'c probably supports the ideas of assange for all we know.


I think it's understandable to confuse the actions of anyone America officially doesn't like as treason, because that word gets thrown around a lot on TV on shows like 24.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-12-08, 1:44 AM #75
thats treasonn!!11

were at war annakin
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2010-12-08, 1:51 AM #76
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
Fun fact 2: The Australian government has made it clear to Assange that he is no longer welcome in his own country and that they will do everything to cooperate with the CIA and US authorities. Which makes one wonder what Australian citizenship means exactly.


That is not strictly true. Although the current Australian Prime Minister was not exactly warm towards Assange, the Foreign Minister has defended him and offered consular support (as would be given to all Australian citizens overseas).

Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iw3ocTLKRZdP3ZWHui561iozqOAg and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558

I also note that the current Australian government is a minority government and the result of a hung election.
2010-12-08, 5:12 AM #77
Originally posted by Commander 598:
SLANDED


God damn it, why is this thread so full of typographical errors?
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2010-12-08, 5:43 AM #78
Because people are trying to use words that they don't know in an attempt to seem more intelligent.

i r use the sorus

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2010-12-08, 6:28 AM #79
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Hey Darth Dan: I know you haven't literally added me to your ignore list (because you can't, the forums won't let you) so I know you're simply trying to exercise a kind of restraint that is uncommon for people in your age/income/political affiliation/educational bracket.


And what exactly makes you think the forums won't let him?
2010-12-08, 6:36 AM #80
Originally posted by BuuBox:
That is not strictly true. Although the current Australian Prime Minister was not exactly warm towards Assange, the Foreign Minister has defended him and offered consular support (as would be given to all Australian citizens overseas).

Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iw3ocTLKRZdP3ZWHui561iozqOAg and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558

I also note that the current Australian government is a minority government and the result of a hung election.


Ok, well then they turned around. Or at least, the Foreign Minister.

Originally posted by Darth Dan:
I wasn't sure if this was an act of treason or some other violation that this idiot has commited. I think what he did would be considered a sabotage of a nations security and should be punishable of some sort.


So in other words, people should be punished for publishing the news.

Because the interests of the government are more important than freedom of press, right?

Maybe North Korea or China would be a great place for you to live.

The fact that you are calling people communists is deliciously ironic.
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