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Had my first cop confrontation today
2011-05-17, 8:31 AM #41
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I do completely stop at every stop sign. It gives me time to check for cross-traffic without requiring that I take my eyes away from what is in front of a moving quarter-ton vehicle. It really helps when people actually stop at a stop sign so I can tell who actually stopped first. I just love it when I come to a stop just as someone else pulls up to the stop sign, but they don't actually stop, so they assume they go first.. when they never even stopped.


Besides the fact that I think you're outright lying (I have never, ever seen a driver come to a full stop 100% of the time), any driver with a modicum of experience should be able to make such judgments without ever coming to a stop. The situation you describe would only need to apply at a 4+ way stop anyway, which is not what I said.
2011-05-17, 8:33 AM #42
Originally posted by Mentat:
I don't see how that could be considered "punishment". It has nothing to do with punishment & everything to do with public safety.


You can't honestly see how increasing the legal driving age by 5 years would punish responsible drivers between 16-21? Not to mention your idea is incredibly impractical considering all of the people in that range who need their cars to get to work, school, etc. Or should their parents be forced to taxi them around everywhere until they're seniors in college?
2011-05-17, 8:47 AM #43
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
(I have never, ever seen a driver come to a full stop 100% of the time)


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2011-05-17, 8:48 AM #44
Originally posted by saberopus:
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CM is omnipotent.
nope.
2011-05-17, 8:50 AM #45
Originally posted by Darth:
You can't honestly see how increasing the legal driving age by 5 years would punish responsible drivers between 16-21? Not to mention your idea is incredibly impractical considering all of the people in that range who need their cars to get to work, school, etc. Or should their parents be forced to taxi them around everywhere until they're seniors in college?

In my kingdom I would be willing to meet you halfway by moving the driving age to 18 & the drinking age to 16 (e.g. Europe). Parents &/or public transportation should have to taxi them around until they start college.
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2011-05-17, 8:53 AM #46
Originally posted by Baconfish:
CM is omnipotent.


Or you don't know what the word "seen" means. Regardless, you'd think after many years of driving, and many years of watching others drive, at least one person would do so? Yeah, no. Based on that alone, the statistical chances of Freelancer actually doing what he said is so infinitely small, that I have no problem saying he's lying.
2011-05-17, 8:53 AM #47
I'm fairly certain I stop at every stop sign. The only time I roll through is when I'm approaching a side street that terminates on to a main road. I'll slow down and roll out a little to see what the oncoming traffic is like.

I stop at every stop sign in my neighborhood though because I don't trust other drivers.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2011-05-17, 8:54 AM #48
Having a set age defeats the purpose of testing in the first place. Might as well give everyone a license as soon as they hit 18. If you are physically capable of operating a motor vehicle, have passed the necessary tests, and have demonstrated the maturity required to do so there is no reason to withhold a license. But you're right. We should make more people a burden on society.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 8:56 AM #49
Originally posted by mb:
I'm fairly certain I stop at every stop sign. The only time I roll through is when I'm approaching a side street that terminates on to a main road. I'll slow down and roll out a little to see what the oncoming traffic is like.


When you say that you automatically disqualify yourself from "stopping at every stop sign". *facepalm*
2011-05-17, 8:56 AM #50
Originally posted by Baconfish:
I find it utterly ridiculous that 15 year olds can drive in certain parts of the US.


Something tells me you would find certain parts of our geography ridiculous too.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 8:57 AM #51
Florida does look a bit like a penis as seen from the side (balls & all).
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2011-05-17, 8:57 AM #52
Originally posted by Roger Spruce:
But [Freelancer is] right. We should make more people a burden on society.


Misery enjoys company, right zully?
2011-05-17, 9:00 AM #53
oh snap
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2011-05-17, 9:01 AM #54
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Or you don't know what the word "seen" means. Regardless, you'd think after many years of driving, and many years of watching others drive, at least one person would do so? Yeah, no. Based on that alone, the statistical chances of Freelancer actually doing what he said is so infinitely small, that I have no problem saying he's lying.

The way your post was worded it can read as if you mean you've never seen a single person stop every single time a particular individual comes to a stop sign. :P
nope.
2011-05-17, 9:02 AM #55
Originally posted by Baconfish:
The way your post was worded it can read as if you mean you've never seen a single person stop every single time a particular individual comes to a stop sign. :P


No. I mean that I have never seen someone fully stop every time. They might do it once or twice when I'm behind them, but not at every stop I am witness to.
2011-05-17, 9:05 AM #56
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Misery enjoys company, right zully?


I'm not a proponent of making people do anything.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:07 AM #57
To be fair my comment wasn't directed at you. Still fits.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 9:09 AM #58
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I'm not a proponent of making people do anything.


Except dance
:master::master::master:
2011-05-17, 9:09 AM #59
[quote=Roger Spruce]To be fair my comment wasn't directed at you. Still fits. [/quote]

And this would be because...?
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:12 AM #60
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
When you say that you automatically disqualify yourself from "stopping at every stop sign". *facepalm*


sorry I phrased that weird. I still stop, but not quite as long. If the stop sign is way before the corner and I cant see out I stop at the sign, then again when I can see.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2011-05-17, 9:13 AM #61
Originally posted by Freelancer:
And this would be because...?


Because you're miserable?
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 9:14 AM #62
That doesn't make any sense unless I somehow promote "being a burden on society."
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:15 AM #63
Everyone should be forced to attend Finnish driving school.
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2011-05-17, 9:17 AM #64
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I wouldn't shed a tear if every single yield sign disappeared (and was replaced with a stop sign).


This would absolutely be a burden. Let's hold up traffic because people are incapable of driving safely.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 9:18 AM #65
Originally posted by Roger Spruce:
This would absolutely be a burden. Let's hold up traffic because people are incapable of driving safely.


Umn.. they are.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:20 AM #66
No one said they aren't. Changing yield signs to stop signs only exasperates the situation. Traffic is held up. Drivers become angry. Drivers drive angry. Accidents increase. Traffic slows even more. Good job.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 9:26 AM #67
Originally posted by Roger Spruce:
No one said they aren't. Changing yield signs to stop signs only exasperates the situation. Traffic is held up. Drivers become angry. Drivers drive angry. Accidents increase. Traffic slows even more. Good job.


I appreciate stop signs, because they are safer. Yield signs cause me slight distress, because they are less safe. If a stop sign causes rage in the average person, as you're suggesting, then this explains much. I will be doing what I can to drive less now, probably.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:27 AM #68
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I appreciate stop signs, because they are safer. Yield signs cause me slight distress, because they are less safe. If a stop sign causes rage in the average person, as you're suggesting, then this explains much. I will be doing what I can to drive less now, probably.
You're distressed by yield signs? Yeah, it's probably a good idea that you drive as little as possible.
2011-05-17, 9:28 AM #69
You should sell your car. You're a slave to it anyways. I just sold both of mine & am much happier for it.
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2011-05-17, 9:29 AM #70
It's not the stop sign that enrages people, it's the result. Yields allow for traffic to flow. Do you propose that all vehicles come to a complete stop when getting on/off the highway? Yeah, that will work. The point of traffic signs is to keep traffic moving in an efficient and safe manner. Having nothing but stop signs does nothing for efficiency or safety.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 9:30 AM #71
Hi, I'm Jon`C/Roger Spruce. I think roads should be less safe in order to coddle the infantile emotional control of the average human being.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:31 AM #72
Hi, I'm Freelancer. I think roads should be less safe so that I can feel more secure in my driving ability by stopping every 50 yards.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2011-05-17, 9:33 AM #73
I'd rather see more traffic circles and yield signs rather than more stop signs and cameras.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2011-05-17, 9:43 AM #74
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Hi, I'm Jon`C/Roger Spruce. I think roads should be less safe in order to coddle the infantile emotional control of the average human being.
Infantile emotional control? After just admitting that you're afraid of yield signs? Really?

I never said that we need more or fewer yield signs. What I said is that you should stop driving, because you're clearly incompetent and therefore a danger to yourself and others.
2011-05-17, 9:47 AM #75
Oh, yes, clearly.

You must have missed the meaning of 'slight distress,' which is a far cry from afraid, cowering in the corner. It is simply a mild discomfort at the prospect of dividing my attention among 3 different directions, when I'd prefer to focus mostly on one. My situation (which I don't believe, as you insinuate, is an anomaly) is a far safer one than someone who gets rage because of a stop sign, thereby increasing his chances of causing an accident. The best driver I know (by my stringent standards) believes I am a good driver. I am aware when I am on the road, including lunatics who tailgate me. When I have someone on my bumper, I do what I can to remain safe, including speeding up if I deem that the safest course of action.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:51 AM #76
Originally posted by Freelancer:
It is simply a mild discomfort at the prospect of dividing my attention among 3 different directions, when I'd prefer to focus mostly on one.


How exactly does a stop sign accomplish this?
2011-05-17, 9:53 AM #77
Originally posted by Jon`C:
How exactly does a stop sign accomplish this?


Stop sign: Stop, look, go. While stopped, I don't need to worry about what's in front of me, so I am free to check my left and right, one at a time.

Yield sign: Look in a direction I am not headed, while moving.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-05-17, 9:55 AM #78
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Stop sign: Stop, look, go. While stopped, I don't need to worry about what's in front of me, so I am free to check my left and right, one at a time.

Yield sign: Look in a direction I am not headed, while moving.


So what you're saying is that you're a bad driver.
2011-05-17, 9:56 AM #79
You know that there are times you can stop at yield signs right? Also, thats why you have rear view mirrors. Also... how do you change lanes or merge?
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2011-05-17, 9:58 AM #80
If you turn all yields into stops, people are going to blow through them as if they are yields. You know, how they do already. Terrible idea.
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