Based on the commercials it looks like one giant chevy commercial.

Yes... James Cameron... the guy who flies around in a blackhawk helicopter for a daily driver is clearly concerned with the environment and very anti-military.

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The Titanic director - whose new 3D blockbuster is set in the future on an alien planet which mankind is pillaging for natural resources - told how he hoped we can learn to change our ways.

Derp. Right, no message in Avatar. Seriously, what version or under what influence did you happen to miss that in the movie. For Christs sake, he released the DVD of Avatar on Earth Day. IT WAS THE WHOLE POINT. And your statement about him flying helicopters makes the movie seem worse to me now. What, so now it's "do as I say, not as I do?" Also, I know he used to have a helicopter, but I'm pretty sure it's not his daily driver. I don't think grocery stores and such have helipads he can land in.

Also, why is this new post reply editor inserting random quote breaks. I keep trying to go back and edit those 2 statements into one quote because they are from one source, and none of it saves whatsoever.

Yes, the man knows how to make money by milking trends in popular culture.

Just because we have a lack of Wookie doesn't mean that you can take his place as the stubborn fool. Really, honestly, how can you say Avatar did not have a message. If you really believe that, I imagine you are missing out on so much in literature, movies, video games, tv shows, and so on, because that message in Avatar was cock-slapping you in the face 100% of the time. I suppose Animal Farm is about farm animals? But no, I guess any of the following quotes from James Cameron himself shows that Avatar had no preachiness...

"“Avatar asks us all to be warriors for the Earth. This beautiful, fragile, miracle of a planet that we have right here is our land. Not ours to own, but ours to defend and protect,” Cameron told a live audience gathered at FOX Studios for the NRDC event with Mitchell, which will be broadcast in its entirety on “The Treatment” this Friday, March 5"

"“A movie can create an emotional reaction,” Cameron also said during the event. “When you see the Navi people being pushed out of the way as if they’re insignificant you feel an emotional reaction and that sense of moral outrage is exactly what we need to feel about what’s happening right now on our own planet right here.”"

"When they read it, they sort of said, 'Can we take some of this tree-hugging, "FernGully" crap out of this movie?' " Cameron told MTV News on Wednesday (February 17). "And I said, 'No, because that's why I'm making the film.'

"The trick, he added, was to entice audiences into the theater with what he called "eye candy" and then present a story that might jostle viewers out of environmental "denial" and motivate them to work for change"

"“The point is that we are devastating habitat and biodiversity at a terrible rate,” Cameron told the UK Sun. “We are causing a global climate change that’s going to be absolutely devastating to the coral reefs. Science is unable to keep up with our industrial society. We are destroying species faster than we can classify them. We are destroying the food chain faster than we can understand it. The politicians are over in Copenhagen talking about climate change now – but there are other issues as well.”

Has it occurred to you that you care about this way too much?

Yeah, the message that invading other people's land, destroying their home and murdering them is really a terrible message to have. It threatens my false sense of masculinity is so preachy and gay.

If anything it would be a parable in relation to what Europeans did to the Native Americans.

Ahhhhahahahahaha! So I'm not the only one to see the FernGully connection. I KNEW IT.

I like this thread.

I have to blame Avatar for all the Navi fetishism that polluted the internet when the movie was popular. It's like all the people who had jungle fever (but reluctant to submit to the fact the women were suppose to black) suddenly found a solution to their inner fantasy conflicts. They aren't black you see, they are blue!

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dude used to scare the **** out of me when I was a kid.

this is weird stuff in this thread, but i will say that i got pretty much exactly what i wanted out of transmorphers 3

This post makes me respect you more for having such fine taste.

Oh wait I actually meant the opposite of that sentence ^

EVERYONE saw that!

It's also a very similar plot to On Deadly Ground.

Just back from seeing the movie. I enjoyed it for the most part. Spoiler: Optimus is more bad-ass than previously

Sam's new girlfriend was less annoying than I thought she'd be. Seems a bit smarter than Megan Fox, just maybe not as hot. Although it was a little hard to tell for sure. We arrived to late to get anything other than seats in the front row. Not all of the 3D effects and superfluous camera movements were effective or helpful.

Transformers was so bad that this thread turned into Avatar

I do find it funny in that way zanardi, especially since James Cameron helped Bay shoot the action scenes.

This is massively hypocritical. You were extremely but-hurt about it just a few posts ago, and this is what you say when you are demonstrably proven wrong?

the message in avatar is obvious, it's just not really worth commenting on because of how trite it is :|... maybe things would be different if Avatar relayed that message in a novel or compelling fashion, but it didn't.

i still liked it though it was a funtime to see in theaters

I'm not butt-hurt. I'm just annoyed by how much you suck at watching movies. Also, yes, that is what I say when demonstrably proven wrong.



Ah yes, as usual, someone comes along and says what I was trying to say in a less ********ish fashion than I'm capable of.

There really isn't a message there, whether James Cameron wanted there to be or not. He ended up just making a damned good sci-fi movie that meant nothing other than "these guys are good... these guys are bad."

Meh, I'm still sticking to what I said about it. Every word. Including that it was in fact a good movie.

I'm thinking about going to see it tomorrow. I'm sure I'll enjoy the hell out of it.

I saw it yesterday afternoon. The third act drags on a bit. Editing is poor at times (what's with the Simon Quest day to night transition for that Chicago scene?). The dialogue has its dumb moments (Optimus should be saying "Auto-bots roll out!" not "Kill them all!"). There's not much depth invested in the characters other than salient shots of Rosie Huntington-Whitely's figure. But all that said, I still enjoy the movie because it delivers in its special effects and robot action. Compared to Transformers 2, you can follow the action easier this time since there's less use of shaky cam plus rapid cuts.

Are the action shots better than the forest scene from the second one? That's one of the best action scenes I've ever seen.

Do they have anything like those two horrible ghettomobiles in the third one?? Those were like the jar jar's of transformers!

The movies are not G1.

Batman casually killed people in Burton's movies. Did anyone really care? No, because it wasn't Finger's Batman, or Schwartz's or Miller's.

Bay's Optimus isn't a sissy political fence-sitter. He's a goddamn pro-active mother****er. Dude gets **** done.

you can give them some pointers



not much of a spoiler since the trailer i've seen a million times implies that optimus took a level in badass


i'll wait for this one to hit bluray...

I ****ing cared. The Tim Burton Batman movies were horrible.

Yes but as we've already established in this thread, you ****ing suck at watching movies.

Batman does not kill people. You suck at liking Batman.

He can and will if necessary.

Okay, so we'll discount the moments where Batman only allows people to die without actually murdering them, like his very first appearance in Detective Comics, #27, when he let a bad guy fall into a vat of acid. (After Batman had punched him, causing him to fall. Does that still count?)

However in the next issue, #28, he kicked a thug off a building. A tall building.



I wont mention how, in issue #29, he let a bad guy burn to death in a fire without helping.

Then in the next issue, #30.



And because I'm only getting these images off Google and not scanning the actual pages I wont post the murders he commited in #33, #34, #35, #39, #47... and so on. He killed at least thirty people before it was established that Batman doesn't use guns in Batman #1 (1940), which was essentially what led to the current understanding that Batman doesn't kill people.

So no, friend, it is you that sucks at liking Batman.

Hell no, it's just Ferngully with big people, not small people!Ferngully was awesome.

Anything a DC character did pre-1985 is irrelevant.

as opposed to, you know, a giant toy commercial?

Lets talk about good movies like Rumble Fish, The King of Comedy, and Barry Lyndon? Transformers is bad not only because of Michel Bays flashy all fx no substance, but more for what they did to the franchise. They just mutilated it until I couldn't tell **** from ****. They fit it to be one big commercial. ( as well as a gay parable. Hide in plain sight indeed. ) Furthermore I detest Shia Labeouf and Hate(d) Megan Fox. How can Spielberg put his name on this anywhere, however distantly.

Avatar was just stupid and lame. All plot holes aside, or whatever else is ailing this picture in your eyes, It looked stupid. Aesthetically those blue things make me cringes, so stupid... Avatar what a creative name. Did a 3 year old not only write this story but design the characters?

I usually like James Cameron, but this is a movie i will not stand beside.

I will stand beside the first Burton batman movie, yet mostly due to Jack Nicholson. The only good thing about Returns is Devito's amazing penguin.

As fas as Batman killing, I guess he is not usually one to kill a bunch of thugs, but hes already a vigilante, all he needs another good push. Kill Alfred, Dick,and Batdog. See what happens. But how can he let the joker live knowing all the people hes gunna kill eventually. "That distinction is not for me to make" ok bats, yet you can defy the law as far as your distinction allows? Or is it your conscience making allowances.

After playing arkham asylum (the only game ive gotten addicted to since fallout3, which is saying something) I do see how addicting it must be being batman. Craving those tight situations where other lives are at stake. Battling Wit with wit.

I just love batman and likewise love any and every reincarnation of him through out the ages, im downloading the entire Adam west series now. Most of you may scoff at that, but cant every man enjoy corny humor at least once?

Oh yeah, and disregard Detty's last remark. He's wrong...

Jin do you own actual copies of these comics? Send your answer with your home address and your work schedule.

The Batman Chronicles trade paperbacks. There are 10 volumes published so far covering the Batman chronology including issues of Detective Comics, Batman and World's Finest Comics. Each volume goes for about $15 and you get around 7-8 comics per volume. The first volume has 13 issues.

There's also the DC Archive Editions hardcover books. There are seven volumes of Batman Archives released, covering the Detective Comics appearances from issue #27 through to #154 (1939 to 1949) and you get around 15-20 comics per volume. Issues of Batman and the World's Finest Comics appearances were reprinted in their own Archives volumes. They go about $40-50 per volume but I think you can still get some of the Batman Archives volumes for around $20.