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Transformers
2011-07-03, 1:49 PM #81
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2011-07-03, 1:58 PM #82
Originally posted by Antony:
Are the action shots better than the forest scene from the second one? That's one of the best action scenes I've ever seen.


Yes. The reason I wanted to see the movie, and the only things that shine in it, are the occasional shots that capture movement and spatiality so well... the shot of the wingsuit BASE jumper diving out the back of an Osprey as another one crashes immediately behind is pretty beautiful... it makes a good case for slow-motion, it's pretty thrilling. This and the shots of the building being destroyed by Shockwave (the bisected, tilting building from the trailer) from street-level and within the building actually made me feel unsteady and acrophobic, which is likewise thrilling. There are a couple moments like this, and bot-bot combat shots that kinda make you want to cheer despite yourself.

If you still, by now, haven't gotten over distaste for the lack of solid characters, bad product placement, bad comic-relief, weak plot, &c., then forget about it, but if you see something else of value in them, like the above, then you'll probably enjoy it?
2011-07-03, 2:00 PM #83
Oh man that sounds great. I really need to see that movie.
>>untie shoes
2011-07-03, 2:07 PM #84
I think it's cinematographically (eesh) superior to the first two... I know people complain about not being able to tell what's going on in the fights, but eh, I'd rather have camera work that makes the bots feel a bit overwhelmingly large and fast compared to the viewer than high-shots that encompass everything... that'd feel too sterile, in my opinion. I suppose I may be an exception, but I wasn't ever confused about what exactly was going on during any bit of the action.
2011-07-03, 10:00 PM #85
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:


I think I noticed another re-used shot. Just briefly there's the shot of two Osprey's coming in to land with the sun behind them. Looked like the scene from the first movie.
"You want the truth?! You can't handle the truth!! No truth-handler you!! Bah!! I deride your truth-handling ability!!"
2011-07-03, 10:21 PM #86
Originally posted by Antony:
People who worship such movies as somehow superior are sucking the glass dick.

I knew a kid in middle school named Tommy Glasdick.

-You could always see when he was coming.
2011-07-04, 3:28 PM #87
^ An adaquet way to end this thread. ^

I just had an imige of kevin bacon's see-through hollow man penis.
" I am the Lizard King, I can do anyhthing... "
2011-07-04, 9:52 PM #88
I thought Transformers 3 was a very poor movie.

I wasn't expecting anything more than one-dimensional characters and a ****ty plot, but I could barely enjoy the action. This movie is more ADHD than a hummingbird on LSD. Between a protagonist who won't shut up, constant sound effects that were too loud (could just be the theater's fault), and scenes that last about 2 seconds before cutting to other scenes, it gave me a headache.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2011-07-04, 10:03 PM #89
Originally posted by Darth_Xasthur:
see-through hollow man penis.


How exactly did you imagine that if it's ****ing invisible
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2011-07-05, 8:28 AM #90
Ok so I saw this movie finally. I don't think I've ever seen a movie more concerned with visuals and just absolutely not giving a **** about anything else. Sure, certain parts were badass, but it was impossible to tell what the hell was going on as far as the story goes. I mean, when you're two hours into the movie and you don't really know what the conflict is... that's a problem. Visually it was pretty awesome and the action scenes were pretty good as long as you aren't bothered by the fact that the autobots are always talking about how they wanna help the humans and such, but they probably killed at least a few thousand people in the course of doing so. When you're just swatting vehicles out of the way while chasing the bad robot, I think that makes you just as bad.

And am I mistaken, or did Sam beat Patrick Dempsey to death with a block of concrete on the end of a piece of rebar? The sheer disregard for human life in this movie was astonishing.
>>untie shoes
2011-07-05, 9:35 PM #91
Wow, you didn't pay attention at all, did you.

-I also never understood people who say things like "I couldn't tell which robot was which". The big red and blue one, that's the hero. The gray one that keeps yelling "I am Megatron!", that's the villain. They fight.
2011-07-05, 9:52 PM #92
Originally posted by Jarl:
Wow, you didn't pay attention at all, did you.

-I also never understood people who say things like "I couldn't tell which robot was which". The big red and blue one, that's the hero. The gray one that keeps yelling "I am Megatron!", that's the villain. They fight.

Haha, so true :neckbeard:
"You want the truth?! You can't handle the truth!! No truth-handler you!! Bah!! I deride your truth-handling ability!!"
2011-07-05, 10:18 PM #93
omg michael bay totally ripped off a shot from a michael bay film
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2011-07-05, 10:28 PM #94
Originally posted by Antony:
I mean, when you're two hours into the movie and you don't really know what the conflict is...


Decepticons want to rule/destroy everything Autobots want to stop the Decepticons

throw in some standard issue betrayal and you have a reason for explosions to happen
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2011-07-06, 4:39 AM #95
Two hours in and you didn't know what the conflict was?

*scratches head*

Did you even attempt to watch the movie? I think a 8 year old could explain to you what the main conflict was
2011-07-06, 4:36 PM #96
People who say these movies give them motion sickness I also don't understand. If your constitution is so weak you can't handle a camera moving around a bit, you need to see a doctor about that, seriously.

-Another one that always makes me laugh is people who say they can't tell the difference between Megatron and Starscream, because, y'know, it's so hard to tell when one has treads or truck wheels and is tall and thin and the other has giant wings and looks like a dorito.
2011-07-07, 12:30 AM #97
Originally posted by Demon_Nightmare:
Two hours in and you didn't know what the conflict was?

*scratches head*

Did you even attempt to watch the movie? I think a 8 year old could explain to you what the main conflict was


This is the best summary of the plot I can find. Notice that it's written intentionally in run on sentences, which I find hilarious.

Quote:
Don’t worry though, the claims that the new script by Ehren Kruger (SCREAM 3, THE RING, BROTHERS GRIMM) is relatively sensible and well written are an utter fabrication. There is no evidence of that in the movie anyway. The convoluted plot involves an Autobot or good guy robot (Leonard Nimoy) that was carrying a technology that “would’ve won the war” on the Transformer home planet of Cybertron, except he crash-landed on our moon and died so now Optimus Prime finds out about him decades later and brings him back to life but it turns out he was lured into doing that because actually the guy made a deal (hundreds of years ago?) with the bad guys, the Decepticons, to use the technology to transport the planet of Cybertron to Earth (?) and turn all humans into slaves or something. (I hope this means the humans would have to work as the robots’ household appliances, like the dinosaurs in The Flintstones.) Meanwhile sellout humans conspire to make it happen and a robotic bird is murdering NASA scientists and our hero Sam is worried that his new girlfriend is gonna fall for her handsome boss (Patrick Dempsey) and also he’s pissed because “it’s not fair” that the Autobots get to go on secret missions in the Middle East (I believe they are American citizens now) but he doesn’t get to go and the National Secretary of Intelligence (Academy Award winner Frances McDormand) is finding out secrets even she didn’t know about and Optimus is really pissed that he didn’t know about it either. Also Sam goes on a bunch of job interviews and his dad is disappointed in him that he hasn’t found a job yet but he did get a medal from Obama but nobody’s impressed. This all ties in to the moon landing and the Chernobyl meltdown, and then Congress votes that the Autobots have to leave Earth so they fly away on a secret space shuttle they had and then Chicago is destroyed and taken over by the Decepticon party (in a brief montage, it’s worth repeating that) so Sam and Tyrese lead a team of badass Navy SEAL type dudes to climb around on destroyed buildings and try to shoot the one rocket they have at a space thing or whatever, and it turns out the Autobots were faking it they didn’t leave so Optimus kills some of the Decepticons and makes one of his little speeches, so everything should be okay now. God bless America.
>>untie shoes
2011-07-07, 1:05 AM #98
Yeah, that sums it up. Sentinel Prime made a deal with Megatron to set up a trap where they'd go to the planet the AllSpark landed on and set up a new Cybertron there. Optimus and crew fall for it hook, line, and sinker. They do their whole "Autobrots, leave this plase!" thing, the Autobots trick them, the Decepticons take over Chicago, the Autobots go in and stop them.

-My issue with the movie, on the other hand, can be summed up with an old saying a friend of mine used to be fond of: Why is **** tapered at the end? So your ******* doesn't slam shut.
2011-07-07, 1:18 AM #99
My problem with it is that it gets so twisted up in itself that I really got to the point where I really forgot what the hell was going on. This has literally never happened to me before. The visual bombardment (as well as the several shots in my belly) got me to the point where I seriously didn't remember what was actually happening. And it pretty much doesn't make any sense anyway. It's a convoluted mess the likes of which I haven't seen since the second one.

And keep in mind, I have defended these movies, and Michael Bay for years. I enjoyed this movie, believe it or not... I just hate that it doesn't make any ****ing sense.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and after having seen this movie, if you compare this to Avatar... you are really, really, really, ****ing retarded.
>>untie shoes
2011-07-07, 3:00 PM #100
So you don't remember because you were drunk and thus you blame the movie. Cool.

-That said, the details of the Decepticon's plan do require some closer inspection to see if they really make sense, but that's always the case when it comes to big heist plans like that.
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