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National debt and personal debt
2015-08-06, 9:14 AM #281
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Aren't I?


I'm sorry. It was really late and I thought one on Antony's posts were yours.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-06, 12:49 PM #282
No mistake is to be ever forgiven - all Christian voters
2015-08-06, 12:59 PM #283
See, now sometimes it's not too hard to mistake you two.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-06, 2:01 PM #284
In defense of Wookie, the brightly colored unicorn avatar is easy to miss.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-06, 4:01 PM #285
The what?
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-06, 4:27 PM #286
I'm just going to assume you're viewing the forums on a mobile device.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-06, 5:03 PM #287
This has been pretty epic, you guys. All of you. I'm gonna miss this forum when/if it goes under (any update on that?), and I really mean that.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2015-08-06, 6:23 PM #288
Remember when this "Cool Matty" person disabled registration, Krok? Well, guess what--I am actually Cool Matty, and so is everybody else here, except you, and perhaps a few others. I've just been messing with you, debating against myself using a bunch of hijacked accounts.

Did you really think that actual people were coming here and wasting their precious time, just to add their two cents to whatever the inane topic of the week was?
2015-08-06, 6:24 PM #289
Oh, and Wookie was never a real person at all, but a simple Markov chain program, using freerepublic.com as a dataset.
2015-08-06, 7:08 PM #290
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
Oh, and Wookie was never a real person at all, but a simple Markov chain program, using freerepublic.com as a dataset.


I lol'd
>>untie shoes
2015-08-06, 9:15 PM #291
I'm sure we'll have a good discussion about SW:TFA when it comes out in December. I look forward to reading about how J. J. Abrams will have retroactively ruined my childhood, etc. Only then will the site have served its final purpose.
2015-08-06, 9:15 PM #292
There was a "Universal Man" account with a public password on TACC for a minute and I logged into it from one browser and Wookie06 from a different one. That was pretty fun.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-07, 4:33 AM #293
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
I'm sure we'll have a good discussion about SW:TFA when it comes out in December. I look forward to reading about how J. J. Abrams will have retroactively ruined my childhood, etc. Only then will the site have served its final purpose.


It is literally impossible to make a worse movie than The Phantom Menace, so I'm not too worried.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2015-08-07, 7:35 AM #294
Originally posted by Freelancer:
It is literally impossible to make a worse movie than The Phantom Menace, so I'm not too worried.


Wing Commander
2015-08-07, 9:32 AM #295
The Amazing Spiderman 2 is also a thing that exists.

As well as the entire Transformers series.

It can get much, much worse than The Phantom Menace.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-07, 12:58 PM #296
I would think he means as far as Star Wars movies go but then again that doesn't even work.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-07, 1:03 PM #297
Nah, I meant ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

Granted, I haven't seen Wing Commander before, so...
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2015-08-07, 1:25 PM #298
Huh, I was going to ask if it was you that wrote this comment yesterday on Youtube:

Quote:
This movies was released around the same time The Phantom Menace and I dare say this Wing Commander is better.
2015-08-07, 1:28 PM #299
It took Antony pointing out how annoying those Star Wars reviews are, but I totally hate them now. Even as a joke they make me cringe.

But yeah, TPM was a pretty lame movie, and I'm sure people being afraid to say no to GL had a big role in this.
2015-08-07, 1:48 PM #300
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Nah, I meant ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

Granted, I haven't seen Wing Commander before, so...


As much as I want to like it, there is no way around the fact that it is horrid. I actually saw that one in the theater as well. Ugh. Many bad movies actually get better with time. For me anyway. Elektra doesn't bother me near as much as it did when it released. TPM bothers me more now although I still rank it better than AotC. Wing Commander was bad and gets worse on subsequent viewings. At least that is my experience having viewed the movie twice. I watched it again a year or so back and it was at least as bad as I remembered it being. Too bad Chris Roberts didn't have anything to do with it.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-07, 1:51 PM #301
Damn, I just heard Star Citizen is being delayed again because Roberts can't seem to get the gravity right on space landings.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2015-08-07, 7:44 PM #302
Those reviews are so utterly horrid.

When you start *****ing that Star Wars doesn't have enough visual metaphors and thematic elements, it's pretty clear that you're aggrandizing the **** out of them since the only entry in the original trilogy that is an actual legit great ****ing movie is The Empire Strikes Back. The other two are good, but only insofar as a movie that you like because you were a kid once and laserswordsaliensspaceshipsohmygod. They're fun to watch, but when you start reviewing the prequels on some absurd scale of appreciation like the original Star Wars is a ****ing Kubrick movie or something, then you have derailed beyond the point of hope.

Yes, the prequels pretty much suck. No, it is not because Return of the Jedi treats you like a film snob. It's because the acting is generally awful and the storyline (which I cannot emphasize enough, is honestly really ****ing good) is fumbled by an order of magnitude only prior seen when Mark Sanchez ran into the ass of one of his linemen.

The story is great. The screenplay is unbelievably bad. The direction is generally even worse.

RotS is pretty not-bad overall, though. Still a lot of really ****ty dialogue (but let's be honest, "17,000. Those guys must really be desperate. This could really save my neck," didn't exactly set a high bar for subtle exposition or natural dialogue in Star Wars), but overall it works better than either of the other two prequels, and it does have some really shining moments; like every time Ewan McGregor is onscreen. He was good in TPM, lazy in AotC, and positively ****ing inspired in RotS. No joke, that dude doesn't get enough praise for the work he does in that movie. His work in RotS gives him the faintly praised distinction of being the only person in the prequels that can actually make the dialogue work.

Unfortunately he's still saying **** like "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

Glad you're not being hypocritical or anything, Obi Wan.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-07, 7:50 PM #303
Oh, and before anyone says the story in the prequels isn't good, I want you to imagine how good a storyline about a political conspiracy to overthrow the government fueled by what appears to be a relatively minor political standoff, but eventually snowballs into a full-blown civil war that ravages the order established by said government across the entire galaxy, spreading everyone thin and keeping their attention until the mastermind can successfully manipulate an impressionable young war hero into becoming a double agent and finally turning on his friends out of fear of losing what he loves most, securing the dictatorship that has been a millennia in the making and thinking he was doing the right thing all along.

The problem is that Lucas wrote a story that far exceeded both his screenwriting and directing abilities. In more capable hands, those movies would have been incredible.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-07, 8:29 PM #304
Originally posted by Antony:
When you start *****ing that Star Wars doesn't have enough visual metaphors and thematic elements


Wow, somebody actually said this? I'd thought that visual direction and thematic elements were pretty much what GL was known for.

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He was good in TPM, lazy in AotC, and positively ****ing inspired in RotS. No joke, that dude doesn't get enough praise for the work he does in that movie. His work in RotS gives him the faintly praised distinction of being the only person in the prequels that can actually make the dialogue work.


This. McGregor seems to have taken his role pretty damn seriously, and definitely laid down some raw, erudite dialog. Too bad it had to be in a movie that wasn't taken more seriously, where he'd get more acclaim.
2015-08-07, 9:12 PM #305
Obi Wan's "Good job" in AotC is the best line in any of the prequels by such a wide margin that it's not even worth awarding second place.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2015-08-08, 2:34 AM #306
I think "I hate it when he does that" nicely balances it out.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-08, 7:07 AM #307
I will say I didn't see any movies/media with Ewan McGregor before the Prequels, so it's a shame I viewed him as the Obi Wan Actor from the Prequels. Pleasantly surprised when watching Trainspotting.
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2015-08-08, 10:25 PM #308
We've had quite the lively weekend in the United States as far as our political circus goes.

First, the frontrunner for the republican nomination for president was asked by Megyn Kelly to explain his history of misogynistic behavior, and he responded by claiming to only have ever been that way toward Rosie O'Donnell. When Kelly assured him that she had many more examples for which she was seeking clarification, he muttered some platitudes about political correctness and how America is full of losers now, then told her that maybe he should stop being so nice to her. This man wants to be president, and he can't handle a woman asking him why he says bad things about women. I'm sure he would do really well with Vladimir Putin.

The rest of the candidates proceeded to say a lot of hopelessly inaccurate things about national security and military spending, one even going as far as to suggest that our Air Force is at its weakest since before the Air Force even existed, and that our Navy is just leaving us ripe for invasion these days. These claims are built out of some sort of belief that since we had more boats before, our Navy was somehow more effective, and I really don't have a goddamn clue what Carson was talking about with the Air Force, but I feel like someone should probably tell him that a relatively small number of ships from our current Navy could likely destroy the entirety of the mighty Navy of the past that he wants to compare it to.

Huckabee went on to whine about how we aren't replacing the B-52, even though we are currently in the planning stages of doing exactly that despite the fact that the B-52 will be more than capable of performing its duties for a minimum of the 25+ years it is expected to remain in service. Apparently he's the only person in America who thinks we just haven't spent enough money on new aircraft lately. Then again, it's important to consider that this man also believes that the US military exists solely for the purpose of "breaking things and killing people," (actual stated belief) which clearly demonstrates that he is not aware of the existence of either the National Guard or the US Army Corps of Engineers.

This pattern continues to repeat itself as the candidates quoted made up statistics and spouted platitudes about being vulnerable while seemingly believing that no one would make an effort to fact check anything they were saying.

The part where Rand Paul started yelling at Donald Trump and complaining that all he's doing is screwing over the republican party was pretty good, though. Not only is it true, but it's hilarious.

So we fast forward to the next day when the republican frontrunner proceeds to unleash a series of tweets and retweets trashing the hell out of the cable news network that functions as a propaganda machine for the party he is attempting to be nominated by, positing that the only reason Megyn Kelly asked him the questions she did was because she's a "bimbo" and a "nobody". Then he proceeded to call everyone who doesn't like him a jerk, or a loser, or a fat slob, or whatever the hell else comes to the mind of a man that honestly seems to have the mind of a child.

Then he called in to talk to Don Lemon. This likely made Lemon pretty happy, since he's the cable news equivalent of Jerry Springer, and that man just loves to start some ****. Asked why he was so upset with Kelly, our hero Donald replied that she just had it out for him, and that she "had blood coming out of her eyes... coming out of her... wherever..." leaving us to arrive at the logical conclusion that the only reason that bimbo asked him about his history of spouting sexist garbage was because that broad was on the rag, right?

So then a guy who organizes this conference where a bunch of crackpot right wing fanatics get together to talk about Obama's birth certificate or how Mexicans are putting Americans out of some of the best $2/hr jobs in the country decided that he didn't want Donald to speak at his conference anymore. That's right. A guy who is famous because he called a Supreme Court Justice a "goat f*cker" thinks Donald has gone too far. Donald assured us, though, that he didn't want to speak at that loser's conference, because he's a loser who supports establishment losers, but he wishes he could talk to the people going to the conference because they're not losers like that losery loser.

So then one of his top advisers quit, and our hero claims to have fired him. I guess he was advised that he should stop suggesting that women only ask him about his history of misogynist behavior because they're on their period, and Donald told him to take a hike. But then a few people who were in the room say that it all came to a head because Donald told his top adviser that he's even further ahead in the polls now, citing one that he saw on the Drudge Report website. His adviser became frustrated when he realized that the man he is attempting to get elected as the leader of the free world thinks that the polls they talk about on the news are apparently some kind of aggregation of the ones you vote on when you're using your iPad to check the latest Benghazi conspiracy theories on some nutjob right wing blog. I can see why this could spur a man who has made a career out of advising politicians lose patience.

No matter. According to the Donald, his former top adviser is just an attention whore, and he's nothing but a loser who supports losers, and he's never won anything because he's a big silly doodie head. I may have made up that last bit. He's definitely a loser, though.

Then Ted Cruz started talking about how he wants to shut down the US government if congress doesn't agree to de-fund planned parenthood and make them stop selling babies or whatever it is that medical professionals do. This didn't sit too well with Mitch McConnell, who is kind of a big deal in the senate. Mitch more or less told Ted to sit down and shut the **** up, because he's fed up with all the crazy things his party is saying and doing lately, and maybe they should actually try to get some constructive things done.

Maybe Donald Trump really is the key to making America great again. It's like his stupid bull**** has republicans so exasperated that they actually have to start doing things now.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-09, 12:25 AM #309
Quote:
Then he called in to talk to Don Lemon. This likely made Lemon party...


For a second there my brain thought you wrote that.
2015-08-09, 12:33 AM #310
God I hate Ted Cruz. He's one of the few Republicans who makes me cringe so much that my desire for him to go away forever outweighs whatever accidental benefit he confers to comedians by giving them material. Were he to win the presidency, I wouldn't sleep until he faced impeachment for having such a punchable face.
2015-08-09, 12:37 AM #311
It's obvious that Trump is running because Bill Clinton asked him to. Just like he ordered those two women to disrupt Bernie Sanders' rally today just to trash the BlackLivesMatter brand, taking Bernie's campaign with it.
2015-08-09, 12:41 AM #312
I will laugh so hard if Trump actually gets the nomination. The last thing the world needs is a post-Citizens United Republican presidency.
2015-08-09, 12:44 AM #313
The notion of him becoming president is particularly disconcerting due to his tendency to only be remotely civil to other human beings if they do nothing but kiss his ass.
>>untie shoes
2015-08-09, 12:47 AM #314
Does he even have a platform? It seems to me his whole deal is to spaz out in a dialect that America's biggest morons can relate to.

I hate to say it, but a Donald Trump presidency would presidency would be a fantastic way to round out America's image on the other side of the Atlantic as the land of reality TV and idiocracy.
2015-08-09, 12:47 AM #315
Originally posted by Antony:
The notion of him becoming president is particularly disconcerting due to his tendency to only be remotely civil to other human beings if they do nothing but kiss his ass.


I said nomination. I was assuming that his nomination would seal the Republican party's defeat in the generals.
2015-08-09, 1:53 AM #316
I thought that all of the Republicans sounded terrible but that Rubio sounded the least so. I did appreciate Trump's statements about buying politicians though--that was fantastic. I don't think that any of the contenders could beat Clinton, but I do hope her scandals (real or imagined) destroy her campaign so that Col. Sanders gets the win. I've followed his career for quite some time & though I disagree with him on a few minor points, I like what he has to say overall, & he seems like he might be an actual, living & breathing, human being.
? :)
2015-08-09, 2:03 AM #317
The establishment hates Trump. The guy's a loose cannon, and is wrecking havoc on the Fox News propaganda machine, and he isn't as beholden to the billionaires (being one himself) that bankroll the campaigns of most candidates, such as Cruz and Bush. The establishment lapdogs at Politico have also openly chastised Rand Paul for not taking enough money from billionaires. Of course, he still is enough of a Libertarian tool to agree with Citizens United.
2015-08-09, 2:15 AM #318
Originally posted by Mentat:
...so that Col. Sanders gets the win. I've followed his career for quite some time & though I disagree with him on a few minor points, I like what he has to say overall, & he seems like he might be an actual, living & breathing, human being.


I hardly know anything about Sanders, and yet I feel he is literally my only option if I intend to vote for a candidate who
  1. is actually addressing the imminent destruction of our democracy by the billionaire class
  2. actually seems to give a damn that what he says actually makes logical sense instead of spouting talking points, which almost every single other candidate seems to be doing. Perhaps Trump doesn't do it, but then again what he does say doesn't makes sense either.
2015-08-09, 2:18 AM #319
Lol, here's a "debate" between Bachmann and Sanders. It really is pathetic how many times he has to say "excuse me", just to stop her from interrupting with her incoherent babble. The funny thing about people like Bachmann is how quickly it becomes apparent there aint much going on upstairs, once they are forced to engage somebody with some actual intelligence for more than five minutes.

Sorry, don't know how to play this video :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cJUBOZE26k
2015-08-09, 2:24 AM #320
"President Obama has declared an economic war on women" --Michelle Bachmann
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