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Can we *please* stop closing threads because some mod or admin thinks they're "pointless"? Please?

I can't think of a single reason that would have warranted closing "Penguin Bashing". It was pointless and stupid? Fine (though I don't agree), so are all the debates we go through, and the entire religious discussion forum. There was already another thread about it? Too late, the discussion had moved on to something else.

And yeah, this is a community issue, so I've started a thread instead of an email.

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Shut up. I'm GOING to do this whether you like it or not.

[This message has been edited by Tracer (edited January 22, 2004).]

It was quite pointless actually. I didn't realize there was another thread on the same game, no point really in have two threads about the same exact thing.

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"Honey, you got real ugly."

We already had a thread based on penguine bashing. Don't diss the massassi KINGS, it encourages them.

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Gondor has no pants.
Gondor needs no pants.

Oops, didn't noticed you had said that bit.

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"Honey, you got real ugly."

Like I said, the discussion had moved on to something relevant.

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Shut up. I'm GOING to do this whether you like it or not.

i hate to be mini-mod but you really should take this up with the staff via email or IM.

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i thought about this being the anti-sig... or the sig virus... or the sig of your nightmares... but i decided that some painful rhetoric might work instead...
just kidding.

Well, I, for one, like my threads with well-defined points.

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Archimedes: Pseudo-intellectual since 1986
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So, a thread called "Penguin Bashing" and your post "573" actually has a point?

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I can't speak for the other admins, but I see no problem with a thread which broadly discusses admining issues. Simple "Why was my post deleted/closed?" questions I agree should be kept to email but I think this is more a question of POLICY rather than the reasons behind a single thread's closure.

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Tracer: http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum1/HTML/032624.html

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

[This message has been edited by Avenger (edited January 22, 2004).]

Avenger: Don't see what that has to do with my topic. Maybe I missed something...



Argh! Look, you're not the relevancy police okay? There's no rule that says "all threads must have a point as arbitrarily determined by an administrator," and even if there was, like I said before, thanks for reading my original post, the discussion had actually moved on to something worth pursuing.

It's not hard -the next time you decide to close or delete something, check to make sure it actually violates the rules.

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Shut up. I'm GOING to do this whether you like it or not.

[This message has been edited by Tracer (edited January 23, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Tracer (edited January 23, 2004).]

That thread is all about people not being able to delete their own threads, which is what was being talked about at the end of the closed thread.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

...yeah, but that's not the issue here.

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Shut up. I'm GOING to do this whether you like it or not.

Ok, then I'm failing to see your point. igotissues created that thread by mistake and then people went on to talk about him not being able to delete it. He even said to disregard the thread because he hit the wrong button. Also, it's the only closed thread I see right now. It's not as if every other thread is being closed by an admin because they can.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

My point is that mscbuck closed a thread because he thought it was "pointless", and I don't think that should be allowed to happen.

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Shut up. I'm GOING to do this whether you like it or not.

From the creator of that thread in question:





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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Teehee, Is_907 said "mini-mod"...

Er, right. I'm not quite sure the thread Tracer linked is a real strong indication of admins being arbitrary with what they consider to be pointless threads, but that's my take. Sorry Tracer. Perhaps if there are or come any other incidents...

/shrug

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true, Jaiph... but i always hate someone bringing this stuff up in public because it easily turns into flame-fests.

and yes, I said 'mini-mod'

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i thought about this being the anti-sig... or the sig virus... or the sig of your nightmares... but i decided that some painful rhetoric might work instead...
just kidding.

It all come down the the issue that whoever convinced the admins to lock the delete function should be dragged out into the street and shot... we need that delete thing or as I predicted it before there will be more spam and double posts... its just more work for the admins in the long run.

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::suddenly begins waving his fist about::

We must not question what the leadership does! Questioning the leadership is an attack on the state. : oints at Tracer:: Criminal! Traitor to the Motherland!


But seriously, there have always been pointless threads on Massassi - that doesn't mean they should be closed, though.

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Frightening the very small and very old since 1952.

I say we rip the authorities down beat them with a stick and return our delete function to its former power.

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I don't care one way or the other about deleting my own posts - I just don't think an administrator should be allowed to close a thread for such a stupid reason (especially one that's not in the rules).

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Shut up. I'm GOING to do this whether you like it or not.

Haha, that made the thread worth it.

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"She turned me into a newt!"
Pause
"Well I got better..."

Agreed.

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Roach - Steal acceptance, lend denial.

0 of 14.

I understand where Tracer is coming from. Although it hasn't happened recently, many threads with valid discussions have been closed because they're "not relevant."


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BV's rendition of Titanic: Let's have sex. I won't let go. I don't need this stone.
The End.
~ Wolfy

Hey, at least you didn't get banned for participating in that thread.

Apparently the "general amnesty" doesn't apply if your name is Pugler.

If anyone can tell me what in the following linked thread broke the rules, please do so. I don't have much confidence in that though, seeing as the best explanation I've heard so far for why "Yoda's House" was removed was "IT WAS SILLY!".

http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum1/HTML/031896.html

GHORG: Pugler is a known offender. 'nuff said.

yes Riv, everyone should know the religious forum is a wildcard to most rules here hehe

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i thought about this being the anti-sig... or the sig virus... or the sig of your nightmares... but i decided that some painful rhetoric might work instead...
just kidding.

No, not 'nuff said

Every ban was lifted, he didn't do anything banworthy in that thread

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Of war, we don't speak anymore

I think Buck's sig says it all.



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BV's rendition of Titanic: Let's have sex. I won't let go. I don't need this stone.
The End.
~ Wolfy

When will you people learn? Democracy doesnt work!

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There is no spoon.

Maybe Buck's sig is getting to his head? I saw we FIRE all the admin/ops..revalute how many of them are actually good at what they do, and hire back the ones that can do the job right with NO bias. At this current out of ops/admins...we have about 5-6 people who cant actually do the job well..the others just...aren't good.

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buck's sig is too long. Since we finally managed to get alpha1 to shorten his sig, it's only fair that buck does the same.

Not only is it long, but it flaunts his power so blatantly. I mean, every line is even bolded.

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BV's rendition of Titanic: Let's have sex. I won't let go. I don't need this stone.
The End.
~ Wolfy

Ubuu: heh, perhaps we should just get rid of the ones that don't work and add more... but really, i have no problems with any of the admins/mods right now.

we just need one more chat op for the 8-12am CST slot!

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i thought about this being the anti-sig... or the sig virus... or the sig of your nightmares... but i decided that some painful rhetoric might work instead...
just kidding.

I really think this is going a bit too far.. Though I don't personally agree with disabling the deletion function, I can see why they (admins) think it's a good idea, and from their perspective, it is, so I'll uphold that decision.

I really think we need to stop being so rebellious here... I mean, overthrow the Admins? Replace them with unbiased ones? Newsflash: Everyone is biased about everything.

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First off, changed the sig. Hope you all are happy.

Secondly, along with a mocking power theme, no one ever knew what I exactly did, so I put that in there to clarify what position I was here on the staff.

Thirdly, Tracer, the post I closed didn't have a point. You mean, you want people to just post random things and flood the forums? It's called "trolling". Sure, it turned into a relative discussion, but, there is already another thread discussing the issue. If you have a problem, discuss why the "deleting post feature" was gone there.

And Ubuu, little do you know what the ops and admins truly think of most of the people on the forums. Apparently, if you're going to look for someone unbiased, then no admins or ops will be left. HUMAN NATURE IS THAT EVERYONE IS BIASED. You can't find someone that is moderate, and is not biased. You're mad because I banned you for being a jerk and notice flooding Kirby. I can quote you in saying "I'm an A**", referring to yourself of course. So, why should we all listen to you?

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Only To Keep The Public Happy

[This message has been edited by mscbuck (edited January 23, 2004).]

Thanks, buck.

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BV's rendition of Titanic: Let's have sex. I won't let go. I don't need this stone.
The End.
~ Wolfy

Oh brother

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Nor should it. If you had half an inkling of why Pugler was banned in the first place, you wouldn't even have brought it up.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.