AMEN. I don't even agree with, well, most people's lifestyle choices, but i love being able to come here and talk about it with having to listen to people yelling insults. And folks, as someone who works with people with disabilities, lemme say 'retarded' is a seriously offensive word. Just because you may not know any folks with disabilities, or give them a second thought when u r using the word (because u r not using it to put them down but in an unrelated manner) does not change the fact it is offensive.

O and Australia is a Utopia btw - we'd prove it, but if we let u in to see, that'd ruin it for everyone :p

I personally believe the rules aren't a problem if you post with respect to your fellow posters. If you keep that in mind while posting you should have no trouble with the rules cause you'll never be breaking them.

I would also like to add that if your enjoyment of this site is so hinged upon your ability to use "retarded," you might want to reconsider why you post here.

The SW movies are (so far) PG rated, yet...ya'll (yes I said it, you grammar nazis) want a SW Fan site to be G rated? Contradiction perhaps?

-Lurking since you were a twinkle in your father's eye

The Star Wars movies are also PG because of stylized violence. You never see the Emperor calling Darth Vader retarded.

It has more to do with keeping people from using the word in insult others than anything else because if you allow it, it opens the door for it to get worse. Not using "retarded" is not a big deal at all. If people are having problems with that, really don't know what to say. It's rather simple. It a rule. Follow it. No matter what anyone here says in defense of using he word retarded, it's not going t change anyting

Ha ha. Don't worry -- it's in the next DVD set. :p

Yes. He can. But I'm still pointing out the incosistency of the censorship here.
Yeah... if you call THEM that.
Shall we also be offended when I use the word retard in regards to a music? It's a legit term, and always has been. And it means the same thing SavageX378 pointed out.
I swear... English-speaking people do not understand context usage!

I agree with this thread, it seems like the rules have gotten a LOT stricter and it seems like the admins or moderators or whatever are turning into nazi's.

How many of you actually read the annoucement?

Me.

Also...

<3

God forbid should I not be able to use "retarded" as an insult. No, anything but that! Please, no! Not my precious "retarded!"

Oh, the humanity!

"Nazi's." Right. Here's a bit of Nazism for you: the plural of "nazi" is not possessive.

Yeah, not getting to use the ward "retarded" in an insulting manner. No where did it say you couldn't use the word at all. Seriously, some people are complaing for the sake of complaining it makes no sense at all.

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Do you know how many posts are made daily on this board? Seriously, there is no way we can read each one of them and censor everything that needs to be.
And if you are referring to the fact that some words like retarded are banned and other ones arent then I suggest you drop your argument.
you are all bickering over one word. Why cant you just accept it as a new guideline and move on with your life. Seriously, it's not like it was a common word here. It just happened that a few people started using it in posts they made. Why are you going to miss this word so much if it was hardly ever used!

In response to whoever said "retard" was a musical term: Yes, it is. In fact there are 3 ways it can be used. Yes, if someone is talking about how the music is decreasing in speed, that would be fine to use the word "retardation" because that is what the definition is.

And now to sum up what I mean, in terms for the simplest of people to understand:
DO NOT USE THE WORD RETARDED IN A DEROGATORY MANNER.

The only possible way for the moderators and administrators to view all the questionable threads is if someone reports them. I hate to make an assumption, but my guess is that they hardly, if ever, get any reports, so they can only close what they see. Complaining about inconsistency isn't the answer, but there must be a solution.

The main problem is that a lot of members see everything through rosy-colored glasses, and don't feel the need to report questionable threads, because nothing is inappropriate, in their eyes. A lot of the administrators and moderators have a different perspective, and close a lot of threads that leave many scratching their heads.

Then, when someone complains about inconsistency, and the mod/admin makes the remark, "If you want consistency, report suspect threads." That argument doesn't make sense, because the regular member is seeing rotten threads remain open, and thinks all threads should adhere to that standard. A mod, on the other hand, gets told about these rotten threads and thinks to himself that he would have closed it if he had seen it, so he is adhering to a stricter standard.

It's a no-win situation.

I have never been banned from Massassi, and have had no difficulty following the rules. It's really not very hard at all. :p

You say that massassi's all wonderful and such because we don't swear / use 'gay' as an insult / whatever like other forums do, but I say that even if we don't use those, we're only nicer on the surface. Instead we have threads like these, 'admins are corrupt blah blah blah', infighting among the admins, etc, which personally I consider to be worse. Political correctness is.. dumb.

I really don't think massassi would deteriorate or become worse at all if we got rid of the swear filter or whatever. Look at SomethingAwful: they don't have a swear filter, and yet their community is one of if not the greatest communities on the internet.

Also, on an unrelated issue, I think that it was dumb to move to vB and disable all the features. They really are pretty useful, and what difference does it make if they 'clutter up the forums'? The forums are here to be useful, not to look pretty.

Really, though, we do have it pretty good here, and personally I don't really care how things are run, because it is after all just a website on the internet.

but you do here someone on the calamari cruiser call the emperials on the ssd d***heads when the ssd just had it's bridge destroyed and we see admiral akbar happy that the ssd was destroyed.

go and watch the scene and you will hear it.

That's really, really, stretching it.

Quoted for truth. Just going over to Lucas forums for just a second revealed this moronic thread.

Okay alpha1 you really need to calm down. You are really going out of your way to annoy people and keep fueling the flames in this thread.

I understand you are allowed to have an opinion but you are pushing it. This is your warning.

I think so...
Just my humble opinion, though.

Yes, but the SA forums also have far more rules than we, or the majority of other forums for that matter, will ever have. Just because they allow swearing doesnt mean things are more lenient there. I can garuntee that at least half of our registered members would be banned by now if we had the same rules and enforcement that they use.

Jeez this has gotten to be way more out of control than i expected. eek. *backs away slowly*

Sure you never though so. It never occured to you a discussion of how strict the forums are would turn into a flame war?

No... I was talking about the swear filters, which I brought up earlier. So what happens if someone only finds it derogatory when you actually referring to the mentally handicapped? :p
That was kinda my point earlier. What you find derogatory, others may not.
What if I call myself retarded?

Whatever. I'm having a bit more fun with this thread than I should be.

I realize what I find to be derogatory might not be for someone else. Part of my duty as an admin is to distinguish this and use my best judgement to edit posts.
You guys are going way to in depth about this. It shouldnt require this much debate for a new rule.

Actually, the thread was about several new rules, and general "strictness."

Yeah but if you want to get technical this thread itself is breaking several rules.

I think so...
Just my opinion.

Thanks for your brilliant insight

What are you talking about muzein? You've been a member for one day.

Stop being so aggressive, I'm just stating my opinion!

I think so,
just my opinion, it could certainly be wrong.

A better one would be in ANH where Han calls Ben a "Damned old Fool"

That's not necessarily true. However, taking visitors' opinions into account is exactly what we have done, thank you. (Are we even on the same forums, here? Geez, I'm beginning to feel like Bush defending against accusations by Kerry.)