True. But do they constantly claim that they are the best and greatest nation ever, and that will ever be? Or say they are better than anyone else? (which the former is basically saying anyways). No.

You're generalizing.

Oh well, everyone else here's doing it to prove their points.

One person. One...person...does not represent an entire country.

1. I never said it was only one person.

2. Give me proof that there is only one American among all of you that think that way.

3. If it's a minimal part of the population, I doubt that Americans would have that image around the rest of the world that they are arrogant, self righteous, and think they're the cats ***.

I'm not saying that you all think that, nor am I saying that all Americans are bad, or that I hate America. I'm simply saying that when more than a handful of countries don't like America for the same reasons and generally think of Americans to all be the same way (it's a common belief around the world that Americans are arrogant and as I said self righteous), it says a lot.

Americans aren't liked in most places in the world. Most of which haven't been invaded, bombed, or had anything really done to them from America, yet they still do not like Americans.

As an aid to this argument I'll take a quick look at both the USA and Canada and see which is better.

USA:

Pros:

#1 one economy in the world
Extremely stable government
Poverty level is way better off than most people in Africa and South Americas.
#1 Military in the world
Not very socialistic... yet
Lots of freedom and rights and stuff
Not much racism, besides affirmative action
An extremely stable form of currency

Cons:
Abortion is, like every where else, legal
We have a bunch of enraged moron fundamentalists with pipe bombs mad at us for supporting Israel.

Canada:

Pros:
Extremely stable government
Poverty level is way better off than most people in Africa and South Americas.
Lots of freedom and rights and stuff
An extremely stable form of currency
Maple Syrup
Skiing

Cons:
It's cold
Probably couldn’t defend it self if it was attacked, but then again who the heck is going to attack it?
Small influx of losers who can't handle a defeat in a presidential election
Socialized health care
A meteor might hit it... maybe...

The bottom line is, they’re both pretty much the same, and arguing which is better or worse is stupid.

Well, the attitude of arrogance stems from the fact that America actually IS superior to most countries if you look at economy, standard of living, poverty etc, so it's no surprise that these people are arrogant. If another country, Germany for example, was in the USA's position of power and supremacy, I'm sure the world would hate them too. It goes without saying that smaller, inferior countries will hate and resent the bigger more powerful country.

And why the hell WOULD they claim that they are the greatest nation! Americans actually have a strong case to be the greatest nation, which is why many of its citizens think that way!! Jeez...you need to think logically. Obviously the citizens of some small European country aren't going to think of themselves as living in the greatest nation on Earth.

Saying "My country is greater than yours because it's more econimically stable and has a strong defense as well as offense" is a little different than "My country is better than yours. I'm American, and I'm better than you".

It is different... quite different.. quite significantly different..

Really, most of you probably know how I bitterly oppose patriotism in all its forms, but the "anti-American patriotism/superiority" group here are doing such an appalling job of arguing their point that I really don't want to be associated with it.. The main constituent of their arguments appears to be Obi, so it can't be that hard to argue against. Seriously, buck up your ideas guys.

2.) If you're going to make statements, the burden of proof is on you. There are people who think that way, no doubt, but they aren't exclusive to the United States.

3.) Seeing as the rest of the world probably knows < 0.0000000000000001% of the United States population, if that, they are generalizing just like you are.

Had to fix my "<" sign[edit]

psst, I'm thinking you want the < sign.

Oh. Yeah, so when the Israeli tanks bull-dozed down Palestinian homes by the hundreds last may, they were strictly trying to erradicate terrorism.



That beilef was FOUNDED in Europe. Ever hear of Imperialism?

Whoops. That I did.

Americans ARE NOT very well liked in pretty much most countries in the world. Have you ever been to places outside America? Mexico, practically all of Europe, Gibraltar, etc, places all over do not think of Americans well. One of the first questions you're asked when you go anywhere is "American?" When I was in Mexico, I don't know how many places I heard people being asked that, and when they found out the person was Canadian or from somewhere outside America, the people were relieved. They like American money, but not American's. This to me says a hell of a lot. If you're not liked throughout more than half the world, you're definately doing something wrong.

It would explain why a lot of Americans are claiming to be Canadian now. Sure, it's easy to bash us, but as soon as trouble that you yourself have caused comes your way, it's a different story.

Doesn't mean those people are making intelligent decisions. My point still stands.

Forget that. As far as I'm concerned, the radicals -- and for that matter, all the other Republicans and Democrats -- can have America. I want the island.

No, we should make them heads of various smalls states in the pacific and see how well they run it, since they know everything.

That would be a bad idea... and theoretically, how would you have the authority to do that?

1) I know you didn't.

2) I apologize if I misunderstood you, but when you said, "Oh well, everyone else here's doing it to prove their points," I thought you were referring to Americans local to this thread. I concede that there are a great many uber-patriotic Americans who think that America can't do wrong (as long as it follows their agenda).



Or it could be that a lot of people are just *******s. Or it could be that you're generalizing again, and the world's image is suffering for it. I'm not sure what Americans are supposed to do fix this problem that foreign people have. If a person thinks, "Americans are all stuck-up *******s who think everything should be handed to them on a silver platter," and are going to treat me with fear and/or disrespect, well, that's their problem. Not mine. If I'm willing to view them as an equal person, and they're not, that's their problem. If they'll only be satisfied by me being submissive, that's their problem. I'm not expecting them to be submissive, and I sure as Hell am not going to submit myself to them. The world can go f*** itself if it thinks I don't deserve a reciprocated respect simply because I'm American. Don't like it? Tough luck, buck-o -- you're the one causing the problems here, not me.

Them not liking Americans is equivalent to me not liking Arabic people. They may support Islamic terrorism. More likely than not, they don't. But, hey, they're Arabic and probably Muslim. I should fear or dislike them simply because they originate from a country that may have policies I don't like.



We also have a bunch of enraged moron fundamentalists with pipe bombs mad at us and killing abortionists. There are extremists on both sides.



Actually, it was mentioned in a previous thread that the Canadian health care system ranked higher than America's privatized health care.

Everyone's generalizing?

I'm beginning to think that arguing here is more trouble than it's worth. The standard of debate is horrible here.
So yeah, that's my excuse for not bothering to really argue my case well. By the way, in what ways were my attempts appaling?

I'm happy living In Québec, in Canada. But I'm sure that if I was brought up in the States, I would enjoy living there also. There is no "better country."

My dad can beat up your dad.

Yeah, but I can beat you. :p

Fight! Fight! Fight!

My mom will drive me over to your house to beat you up!

That shouldn't take her long, she already knows her way over here.

Are you going to let him talk to you like that?

Yeah, cuz she's had to kick your *** so many times.

Actually, I was the one spanking her ***. :p

So it's my fault that other people lean on racist stereotypes?

Aw and I was getting used to the funny comments of spam and this kid brings back the argument.

More like we're kicking so much arse that half of the world is just jealous. We're the wave of the future, and Europe's old news. And we left the Middle East in the dust centuries ago. No wonder they're so nutty with rage.

The fact that a few Americans left our country and moved to Canada doesn't mean anything significant about the superiority of either country. It's more like those whiny Kerry fans realized that they are losers, so now they're self-exiling themselves to America's attic where we store all our spare natural resources and good beer. There they can ignore the partying and other noisy ruckus from the Americans downstairs, while they busy themselves making magical boots or whatever it is the Canadians do in their free time.

Anyway, my point is this: America is indeed bigger and better than all competition. So many of you are saying, "Superb economies, well-balanced republican governments and unbeatable militaries mean nothing. We can make tasty chocolates! We're all equal!" That's loser talk and you know it. If there were no standard for culutural and political greatness, then how does one explain the spread of American influence? Sure, people may claim to hate us, but at the same time they want to be more like us. Why is that? We have the most bombs, and they know that makes us fun and cool.

Economically and militarily, we're by far the sexiest of all. Indeed, throw us in the rink with any nation in the world, and we will come out victorious. Even our great allies the Brits know that, if for whatever terrible and unforseen reason push came to shove, America would emerge badly bruised but with one more ear trophy on our belt. But does that alone measure greatness?

Perhaps not. Sure, we could easily eat the entire world, choke for a moment on the pointier ends of the continent of Africa, then eventually force it down and turn it into poo. But we don't. Instead, we stretch our great and majestic arm over our weak and trembling world neighbors, offering our assistance where asked and our War Hammer of Fury where justice demands it. That, my friends, is why America is super duper.



And I'm sure I could compare Paul Martin to dirty animals too, but out of decency and humility I choose not to.



I'm sorry, but history demands that I also address this. America was not the sole superpower at the time, which was my point. You mention at least one other superpower existing at that time in your very post.

Oh god....humility is not one of your strong traits.

Hello chaps, thought I'd pop in for a moment.



K.



Hehe.



Um...you know, there are a lot of countries better off than African and South American nations.



A blessing and a curse, if you think about it.



Okay, let me get my rusty nails here...



A lot of countries have that now, actually. Including Canada.



Uh...I'm not really a proponent of affirmative action, but wow.



Spare armadillo, sir? Spare armadillo?



Hmm, let's think about this. If it's legal everywhere else in the world, and it's legal here, there are probably more people who think it's okay than people who don't. Think on that.



COUGH HACK WHEEZE*

*sans pipe bombs--ostensibly...

And with that I bid you adieu.

Wait... so you're proud of the fact that America has never, ever invaded other countries or tried to conquer the world for its own personal gain... in the last 13 years? Whatever happened before that doesn't matter?

The rest of your post was just pure idiocy, and, well, so was this, but I just felt like I needed to adress it for some reason... So get it in that thick little head of yours; we look down at you with disgust, not jalousy.

Looks like someone's "jalous."