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Back to the tips-

Here's a big one, at least for me. Stay chill. Don't freak out. I used to flip out when I saw an enemy, my heart rate would go up, my breathing would get erratic, I couldn't pay attention, and I just sprayed and prayed. I didn't hit a thing, usually. Eventually, I realized that if I stay calm, I'll do a lot better, maybe even survive a firefight every now and then.

Haven't played for years, though. Started maybe beta release 5.1 and stopped around 7. I moved onto Firearms and DoD for a while, and about a month before I went Linux, I played Specialists for a bit, which is a lot more fun than CS, in my opinion. I just find CS so plain, and I hate the people.

My main problem with FPSs these days is that there's no place to really begin. In JK there were newbie servers, something that I've yet to find in other games. You'll just end up getting massacred.

Forgot that tip. That's a good one.

You know they have CS and all HL1/2 stuff working in *nix right?

What he meant to say is that we're the reason why he won't accept he sucks. Seriously, if a better player makes the game suck, than you haven't played many games. Just don't be so predictable, and we won't kill you. Don't camp corners and just keep moving with your squad. Trust me, these tactics keep you alive.

JediKirby

Eh not really, staying with a large group just make you all an easier target in spray & pray. Or grenade spams.

Stick with one weapon, and learn it like a pro.

I suck horribly with the AK47, but I'm awesome with the Krieg.
If you try to be good with all weapons, then you will end up failing, being a jack of all trades but a master of none.
And a master will kick your butt.

Not really. If you happen to run into the entire other team, and they all have grenades, then yea. But if you run into one or two other guys, and you are in a group of 3 to 5, then you have more guns firing then they do, and you are more likely to win that battle.

It is just a simple fact that you are more likely to survive in a pack than if you lone wolf it all the time.

What I tend to do is play a zone of the map. I've only played on pubs, since I'm not in any clan, so I've never been part of a very gelled unit that knows what to do whenever. So by zone, I mean if I'm on the defensive side, there is usually 2 or 3 entrances to the bombsites. If my entire team goes to guard one spot, Ill go to a ways out of the entrance to another spot. If there is a heavy rush where I am, I'll let my team know where its coming from, and if its just 1 or 2 people rushing my spot, I can usually take them (not always). Likewise, if I see a bunch of dots on my radar start to disappear, I know where the enemy is coming and I'll try to flank them or something.

I also tested the accuracy of the scout the other day, which I've never done before. I didnt realize that you had to be crouching and not moving to get the shot right on the dot where your crosshair is, because if you are standing it will hit near your crosshair, but not right on, which I find silly, because IRL your gun is going to hit wherever your crosshair is pointed whether you're standing or not (unless the gun is messed up, but then it would miss if you were crouching too). It just explained the reason for all those times I know I got headshots and it did no damage to the guy at all. One time I shot a guy in the head, I thought, twice, with a scout, and then when he didnt die I aimed for his stomach and ended up getting a headshot.

So what happens when you dont have enough money for the krieg? Surely there must be some other gun you are decent with... or do you just pistol rush until you have enough money?

Freelancer didn't take those pictures, I did. To show him what it's like. It looks like chaos, but it's not. Red colors are terrorists that you can see. Yellow colors are terrorists you cannot see. Similarly, Blue is a CT you can see, green is a CT behind a wall. This way, you can avoid shooting at walls or aiming at people through them and tipping off potential spectators.

Additionally, this hack includes a handy dandy no-recoil function, removes the flash (but keeps the noise so that you can tell when you should be stunned and emulate a non-hacker), removes the fog, and replaces smoke with wireframe smoke, so that you can see where smoke is and can likewise act as though you cannot see through it.

The hack also includes a "guiding aimbot" which guides your gun towards the enemy but does not get you headshots, just improves your aim if you drift off by a bit.

It will also control winamp for you, removes the scope blackout, and puts up a nice crosshair that allows you to easier aim for the head, as well as use scoped weapons without scoping. Additionally, it prints a nice date-time on the screen so you can tell what time it is.

The whole design of the hack is so that you don't tip off other players but still gain a massive advantage which you can arguably pass off as luck and skill without being obvious.

I am pretty good at CS, I just said you guys make the game suck. Not, I suck at the game that's why CS sucks. CS is fun if you play with people you know. When you start playing online with the hardcore 400lb weirdos that PWND ALL TEH NOOBS WITH A KNIFE LOLOLOL! It sucks. People left and right OMG UR TEH HAXOIRZ U HIT ME IN TEH HEAD FRUM A WALL! Other people yelling GET OFF THE MIC YOU NOOB! YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING YOU CAMPING WHORE! YOU F*** F**** *** ****** ******!!!

The WORST people play CS. It sucks all the fun out of it. You guys aren't helping the stereotypes.

You want a GOOD shooter that uses tactics. CS uses about as much tactics as a boot in the arse. Hostile Intent is the most tactical game I think you will ever play. You honestly need to depend on your team. There is no ammo counter, no mini map, no death notes. You need to report in on your mics to see who is still alive, you need to do so much. Hostile Intent is tactical, Counter-Strike is NOT tactical. You can argue that it is, but until you've played HI, no way in hell.

Another you got to love is getting kicked for killing the admin.

In fy_poolday:

* Shintock kills EvilAdmin
Dude1: OMF ****NOCK IS hAXING!!!1
Dude2: **** man don't ****ing hack its n0t faire
Dude3: this kid is a ****ing m0r0n lolz
--- end of round, respawn
EvilAdmin: Shintock, cheating is not allowed on this server.
Me: WTF?
*Shintock kills EvilAdmin
--- Banned.

Hostile intent > CS

AA >>>>>>>>>>> CS.

RS3 > CS

Super Smash Brothers > all

Wow that really is a whole lot of talking and stuff you did there, but all that proves is that THE HACK EXISTS. It does nothing to prove that 3 to 4 people use it on every server, let alone the server I always play on.

I'm not trying to defend CS to the bitter end here, I just want to see some damned PROOF.

We don't fit that stereotype at all. Hell if anyone does, it'd be you.

I'm the guy who always tries to organize my team, congratulates them when they do well, get rushes put together, etc. I'm never like "OMG ****ING NOOB STOP PLAYING JESUS" unless someone kills me FF style 10 rounds in a row. And what's wrong with Ninjas (knifers)? I think it's hilarious when someone goes around knifing and does well.

And anyone who says you don't need tactics to play CS hasn't been playing on many servers, obviously. Rushes and planned excursions work 10x better than an unorganized effort.

One last thing: You being 'good' at CS is probably subjective. I've seen about 50 people who say "OMG I'M TEH PWNZ" and they end up sucking...hardcore...

Freelancer: AA is only better than CS if you like something that's so realistic it's not even fun anymore. Battlefield, however, is like 10x better, and DOD is close behind that.

Yeah, I played AA for little while (just long enough to get Special Ops), then I never touched it again. I play Desert Combat all the time though, because that's really fun at the Impossible difficulty.

...You can't compare CS and AA, they're totally different games. CS is fun to a fault and AA is fun to a fault.

I can say that CS is fun and AA isn't. And that's exactly what I said.

Except that you're wrong.

Well, my experience with CS is that it is fun as long as you can find a good server. And that can be very hard to do some days...
Cheaters do exist in CS, there are lots of them. The degree to which they cheat and how obvious it is varies a lot. I'm not saying everyone's cheating in CS...most people aren't...but it really only takes one or two to ruin a game, out of 10-20 people, and that's not much.
Now, I am good at CS, or at least I was when I played. I know what yoshi is talking about...I often play with headphones, and the sound quality on them is so good I can locate people within a few feet up to about half a map away sometimes (de_dust comes to mind...). Now, to actually be following someone through a wall with your crosshairs...why would you do that? You know where they are by sound, and if not, what business do you have seeing them through a wall? And to actually kill someone in a reasonable number of shots, through a wall, in the general case, is pretty hard to do. Some people who cheat do not do so obviously...things that freelancer pointed out *are* very good examples of this. You can often tell when you watch someone if the way they play is just inconsistent with someone who is not cheating - only checking hiding spots when someone is there, shooting through thin walls over long distances (dust2 doors, anyone? it happens, and it's not always 'skill', sometimes they know you are coming -- such wonderful reflexes, sometimes they even shoot before you get there, oops).
Playing on the good servers isn't always a solution...maybe it is if you do get lucky and have a good server to always play on, but I normally didn't play CS on such a regular basis. My experience with servers that have admins on them is *NOT* good. Again, this has to do with finding a good server...but in my experience 75% of the servers I play on that have admins will kick me at some point during the game. Not because I do anything wrong, not because I'm being rude to other players. I almost always have a much better score than the other players, and I just end up getting kicked for it. Because of this I have basically just learned to avoid any clan server with members in them...getting kicked because you do well is pretty annoying, ruins the game for me (it is hard enough to find a good server playing a map I like)

So, yeah, CS has cheaters, not everyone but enough to be a major problem, and there isn't an easy solution to it. I don't see how cheat prevention stuff will stop it either (because it won't).

Telling everyone to 'Go A!', and telling people to 'Rush B!' isn't tactics. Seriously, download Hostile Intent. There is no such thing as rushing, because if you rush you die.

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I didn't say that, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. You obviously have never played a clan match in CS--that's where the tactics are at. Everyone has their weapon, everyone has their place, and they do what they're told. Fake outs, strategic luring, camping, everything has a purpose. I've also done this in many decent CS servers.

But no, there's no such things as tactics in CS

Why is it wrong for other people to like a game that you hate? Or conversly, to hate a game that you like? Seriously, you guys arent arguing over whether or not a game is good, you're telling each other that everyone else should agree with your own opinion.

I originally just was trying to debunk Freelancer's claim that 2-3 people on EVERY CS server hacks. I suppose I went a bit far, but still, it's like me saying that 2-3 people on EVERY UT2k4 server hacked. There's no way to tell whether it's true or not, and it's just hogwash.

I want this like I want a love life.

I'd also like to try out that hack Brad was talking about... Not that I'd use it, but it sounds pretty interesting.

JediKirby

Just gotta find those servers...then bookmark them.

I tried it in class today. I was bored and started CS:S, but I didn't have my mouse for my laptop with me, and I can't freaking aim with a touchpad.

It kind of takes the fun out of the game. You don't have to do anything but move anymore. You can just run around, and the hack will turn you around and shoot for you. You can turn that off, but still. Where's the fun in all of this? I wound up turning everything off (wallhacks and everything) and just using the aimbot to aim to the chest if someone was within 3 degrees of my crosshair, to help me while I tried to play with a touchpad :p. Mind you, I was only playing against bots. I'd never play with a cheat online, I don't want to run the risk of having it get detected and getting banned.

One cool thing though, is that you can control Winamp with the hack I tried. And mIRC. Pretty nifty.

I wonder. Is there a hack that prevents aimbot users to lock on you? That would be quite cool. Or a hack to prevent other hackers to see you behind walls?

There's this HILARIOUS thing to do to aimbotters.

Basically, what aimbotters lock onto is a certain color. So what you do, is you get a spray which is that color, spray it on a wall, and the aimbotter's stuck aiming at a wall.

Don't know how to do it, or where to find the spray, but I've seen it done, and it's funny as hell.

Old aimbots did this, new ones read the game memory for hitboxes. It's the only way to get headshots, and the color aimbots simply don't work very well.

*shrug* I dunno how aimbots work exactly, I just know that seeing it in action is one of the funniest things ever.

It's make it rather easy to make a full spectrum spray to deter them anyway.

Where'd you get the program you god, osiris? Like I said before, I don't plan on using it on any live servers, but I would like to test it out. Googling gave me lots of questionable download links that I'm going to try and avoid.

JediKirby

The Silencer trick is gone! lol

That pisses me off so much. I used that like a whore too. It's been in for so long.

DAMN YOU VALVE!

Silencer bug has been a "placebo" since like version 1.3.

What exactly was the silencer trick?

Attach the silencer, and as soon as you do, either switch weapons, or do what I call a fakeout, where you switch twice (usually with a hotkey or the mousewheel or something set to 'lastinv' in console) and it magically has a silencer attached.