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Hurricane Katrina Largest in US History...
2005-08-31, 4:48 PM #121
Another levee just broke open. According to the news here the French Quarter and most of the city is going to be about 26ft under water by midnight.

I always think it's a bit odd to read the begining of these threads and then look at how completely wrong the information is.

Last I heard, which was like 30 minutes ago on CNN, the guards lost control of the crowd at the super dome and people were just fleeing from it into the water. It said the relief workers were hoping the people would have enough sense to come back when the buses come for them later on tonight.

I've been to New Orleans twice, and I can honestly say it was one of the coolest cities around. It's definately in the top three of all the places I've been. That includes LA, New York, London, Canterbury, Orlando, Atlanta, Peurto Rica, Mexico, Jamacia, the Bahamas. I was thinking about moving there to become a musician. I suppose that isn't much of an option any more.
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2005-08-31, 4:55 PM #122
Yeah, c'mon guys really. Be it 200 or 200,000 people suffered and died. 200 people may be dead but thousands have had their lives upturned and probably worse. Both events are tragedies. We really can't do much about it now. Bickering about it won't restore buildings or bring back the dead.

Carry on.
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2005-08-31, 5:20 PM #123
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I'd have you on mine, but it's too annoying to click on "view this post" every time I want to look at one of your posts. Having to click on one link isn't enough of a deterrent to truly ignore you. This forum needs better software that removes ignored posts entirely.


Or maybe you need some willpower? I have a few people on ignore and I *gasp* ignore them.
D E A T H
2005-08-31, 5:48 PM #124
Yoshi a idiot.

(I'm just checking to see if I'm on your ignore, even though I know I'm not. Ok I guess I just felt like ragging on you.)
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 5:58 PM #125
Originally posted by Bill:
Yoshi a idiot.

(I'm just checking to see if I'm on your ignore, even though I know I'm not. Ok I guess I just felt like ragging on you.)


Go choke on a male chicken.
D E A T H
2005-08-31, 6:21 PM #126
That's rather clever.
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 6:23 PM #127
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I at least have some compassion for those who went through a far greater tragedy; apparently you don't. It makes you feel big somehow to downplay the tsunami by saying Katrina is equally as devastating.



Nobody is saying it is equally devastating, turd, and those people that endured the tsunami endured no greater hardship. The hardship was just more greatly dispersed. I don't understand why this is so hard for people like you to understand. The guy who lost his house, family, and city in Mississippi is suffering no less than his counter-part in Sri-Lanka simply because fewer people are affected here. And, as I said before, the damage is the same or greater in some of these affected communities. You can't dispute that. Maybe you just don't care as much because Americans are affected here.

Originally posted by Freelancer:
In other news, 1,000 Iraqis were killed today. Do you even care? Did you even know? :rolleyes:


Hmm, too bad this thread isn't about that. If you care so much why don't you start one?
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-08-31, 6:37 PM #128
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Hmm, too bad this thread isn't about that. If you care so much why don't you start one?

I'm sure you would claim to care about it just as much as the next guy, but I didn't see you starting that thread.
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 6:37 PM #129
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Hmm, too bad this thread isn't about that. If you care so much why don't you start one?


Its not a thread to talk about the Tsunami, 9/11 or the London Bombings either - but we are. You just want to throw it to the wind because you don't care.
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2005-08-31, 7:00 PM #130
Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast:
Its not a thread to talk about the Tsunami, 9/11 or the London Bombings either - but we are. You just want to throw it to the wind because you don't care.


No. I have opinions on that topic. He brought it up condescendingly as if we either didn't care or didn't know. Neither is true in my case. 9/11 and London only came up as an analogy to the Tsunami comparison which was appropriately made by the mayor of a city affected by this disaster. I've brought up none of these topics.

Try again.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-08-31, 7:53 PM #131
There is no need to try again. You will never admit wrong because in your eyes you are right. There is no point in talking to you about this, or anything else. This is how it goes:

Liberal: You're wrong.

Republican: Am not.

Liberal: How do you figure? I have just shown contradictions in what you say.

Republican: I'm still right.

Liberal: How so?

Republican: Because I never said what you say I said. I'm right because I say so. You're a whiney idiot. Clinton lied, Bush won the 2000 election fairly, Oswald killed Kennedy, and all liberals are communists.
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 8:20 PM #132
That's biased as hell right there.
2005-08-31, 8:21 PM #133
[QUOTE=IRG SithLord]That's biased as hell right there.[/QUOTE]

Uh, everything you and wookie post is biased as hell as well. That's just how it goes.
D E A T H
2005-08-31, 8:37 PM #134
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Uh, everything you and wookie post is biased as hell as well. That's just how it goes.[/QUOTE]

You have me confused with somebody else. I have not posted anything along the lines of political bias. So far as I can tell some people here don't like the fact that I couldn't care less about the inconvience I might suffer economically as a result of this disaster and that I think people living in communities which basically no longer exist haven't done anything wrong if they compare the devastation they're living through to similar devestation others in the world have lived (or died) through. Not quite sure how any of you weirdos interpret any of that as republican or right wing. You must be compensating for something.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-08-31, 8:38 PM #135
Originally posted by Wookie06:
You have me confused with somebody else. I have not posted anything along the lines of political bias.


No, no I don't.
D E A T H
2005-08-31, 8:43 PM #136
Then you have yourself confused with somebody else. :rolleyes:
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-08-31, 8:44 PM #137
Originally posted by Wookie06:
You must be compensating for something.

We are compensating for something. We're compensating for the fact that you don't make sense. We do this by making sense.
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 9:07 PM #138
Perhaps I did not make myself clear the first time around...

STOP DERAILING THREADS WITH POINTLESS BICKERING
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2005-08-31, 9:24 PM #139
Isn't it funny how most of Wookie's posts start with some variant of "You must have me confused with..."? You'd think he'd start reevaluating himself or something.
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2005-09-01, 6:01 AM #140
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Uh, everything you and wookie post is biased as hell as well. That's just how it goes.[/QUOTE]

Good grief. I haven't even posted anything that can be biased lately.
2005-09-01, 9:32 AM #141
JediGandalf, I don't think they heard you. Perhaps if a certain banstick were brought forth, their attention would be renewed. ;)

I wish some one would make a Mod for JK that replaces light sabers with bansticks.
2005-09-01, 10:25 AM #142
New Orleans, if you really traveled it, was a really downtrodden city. Seriously, it was one of the worst places in my opinion... even though it had a thriving tourist industry, their funding for even basic necessities was minuscule (their hospitals were in a pretty sorry shape when I visited them). Jeeze, this was the last thing that was needed.

What do y'all think will happen to New Orleans? It will definitely change in the short term, but anyone wanna wager any long-term effects? Personally I hope the attention on it will eventually bring some much needed care to the place, and it will be improved upon.

On a tangent, how bad is the damage to historical areas? Nothing irreversible has been done to a great extent, right?
2005-09-01, 11:44 AM #143
They should just abandon it now, because scientists estimate it will be too far below sea level by 2110 to keep it dry anymore.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-01, 12:13 PM #144
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Because these people have no perspective. A mayor of a town ravaged by Katrina makes an accurate comparison of the damage to HIS CITY to the devastation of the tsunami. Some of these towns were hit every bit as hard or worse than the tsunami hit. Entire communities virtually destroyed. If you doubt it, look for pictures of Biloxi and other areas.


Originally posted by Freelancer:
No, the deaths of 200 people are not as "equally sad" as the deaths of 200,000. You're heartless if you think so. I at least have some compassion for those who went through a far greater tragedy; apparently you don't. It makes you feel big somehow to downplay the tsunami by saying Katrina is equally as devastating. And why? Just because it happened here? Here is irrelevant if you really have compassion.


Read what's bolded then shut up and stop putting words in Wookie's mouth.
Pissed Off?
2005-09-01, 12:19 PM #145
Originally posted by Freelancer:
They should just abandon it now, because scientists estimate it will be too far below sea level by 2110 to keep it dry anymore.



It'd be really neat to explore a modern city via. scuba diving.
2005-09-01, 2:28 PM #146
Originally posted by Avenger:
Read what's bolded then shut up and stop putting words in Wookie's mouth.


The really partisan-types here don't care what I've actually said in this thread. Since they generally disagree with me on most political issues they will make the most outrageous statements and misrepresentations about every response I've made to outrageous comments in this thread.

I also find it amazing that people seem to think only about two hundred people died in this disaster when there is no official body count and estimates are hinting at the possibility of thousands being dead by the time this is "over".
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-09-01, 2:40 PM #147
Well, it's good to see we don't stand alone and that, when it comes down to it, the (most) of the world doesn't hate us.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9161198/


Quote:
Boats, aircraft, tents, blankets, generators, cash assistance and medical teams have been offered to the U.S. government in Washington or in embassies overseas.

Offers have been received from Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany, Venezuela, Jamaica, Australia, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, NATO and the Organization of American States, the spokesman said.


Quote:
Venezuela, a target of frequent criticism by the Bush administration, offered humanitarian aid and fuel.
Hmmmmmmmm.

Quote:
Germany, which was rebuilt after World War II largely by the U.S. Marshall Plan, offered its help in a telephone call to Rice.

“The German Government is prepared to do all that is humanly possible,” the German embassy said. In his call, German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer assured Rice of Germany’s solidarity with its American friends in a difficult time, the embassy said.



This is very heartening news :)
2005-09-01, 3:00 PM #148
Awwwwwww... que chulo.

Yeah, that's all I can say.
2005-09-01, 3:11 PM #149
Originally posted by Avenger:
Read what's bolded then shut up and stop putting words in Wookie's mouth.

STFU. What I said doesn't even make sense in reply to Wookie. I was talking to Boricua, idiot.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-01, 3:11 PM #150
Push out the hate. Bring in the love.
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2005-09-01, 3:11 PM #151
It's nice to know that other countries care.
2005-09-01, 3:38 PM #152
I wonder if I can get my share of "aid" in cash. :em321:

/greedy swine
2005-09-01, 4:01 PM #153
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2005-09-01, 4:15 PM #154
Originally posted by Freelancer:
STFU. What I said doesn't even make sense in reply to Wookie. I was talking to Boricua, idiot.


Yeah, it was so dumb to assume you were responding to me. Your post coming after mine and all. His point still stands because you were still attacking the legitimate statement made by the Mayor of Biloxi, which others here are apparantly too ignorant to understand as well. You also still seem to be spewing the figure of about 200 deaths as if that's a fact.

A huge problem on this forum is that many people don't seem to be able to back up, think about what they posted, listen to the criticism about it, and realize that they might have said something they should retract, modify, or clarify. Instead, some go into all out defense mode and end up making themselves look worse. Freelancer, you have no idea how bad you're making yourself look even to those who agree with your view. But this is just an internet forum so we're all allowed to be idiots, I guess.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-09-01, 4:17 PM #155
Originally posted by Warlord:
Well, it's good to see we don't stand alone and that, when it comes down to it, the (most) of the world doesn't hate us.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9161198/




Hmmmmmmmm.




This is very heartening news :)


I'm skeptical of most of that. Like Chavez already had offered fuel for the poor in America. Sure, he'll follow through on that. The biggest way most of those countries can help us is to repay part or all of any debt they owe us.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-09-01, 4:58 PM #156
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Yeah, it was so dumb to assume you were responding to me. Your post coming after mine and all. His point still stands because you were still attacking the legitimate statement made by the Mayor of Biloxi, which others here are apparantly too ignorant to understand as well. You also still seem to be spewing the figure of about 200 deaths as if that's a fact.

A huge problem on this forum is that many people don't seem to be able to back up, think about what they posted, listen to the criticism about it, and realize that they might have said something they should retract, modify, or clarify. Instead, some go into all out defense mode and end up making themselves look worse. Freelancer, you have no idea how bad you're making yourself look even to those who agree with your view. But this is just an internet forum so we're all allowed to be idiots, I guess.


Null and void because I'eve never seen you retract a thing.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-01, 5:09 PM #157
This might sound mean, but if the people there had 4 days notices that there was the worst storm EVER coming, why the f*** were a lot of people still in their houses?!
Think while it's still legal.
2005-09-01, 5:50 PM #158
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Null and void because I'eve never seen you retract a thing.


I figured you would say something along those lines. I did say retract, modify, or clarify. I can't remember saying something so insulting I would need to retract it. I have modified or clarified statements from time to time. Feel free to retreat further into defensive mode.

Originally posted by SAJN_Master:
This might sound mean, but if the people there had 4 days notices that there was the worst storm EVER coming, why the f*** were a lot of people still in their houses?!


Many people probably took the threat lightly. Others probably lacked the means. Yet others probably planned this crime spree which ongoing. Reminds me of the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict. Disgusting to see the absolute worst of our society taking advantage of this situation.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-09-01, 5:51 PM #159
[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]shut the **** up and stop bickering[/QUOTE]

Has anyone really figured out this future posting problem? It can get quite confusing and annoying.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-09-01, 5:55 PM #160
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Has anyone really figured out this future posting problem? It can get quite confusing and annoying.


If they had, I doubt it'd still be happening. :p
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