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For those who may remember MaDaVentor...
2003-12-10, 11:50 AM #161
I didn't know him, but may he rest in peace.

My condolensces to his friends and family...

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2003-12-10, 12:02 PM #162
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He will be missed greatly. My condolences go to his family and friends.


[This message has been edited by Keith Marshall (edited December 10, 2003).]
2003-12-10, 12:16 PM #163
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2003-12-10, 12:26 PM #164
It's so surprising. I mean, one day, you'll just be talking to him, the next, you wont. I remember him, and I say we never forget.

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2003-12-10, 12:31 PM #165
I had a hard time thinking last night, so I'm posting my true goodbye now, and I hope it's sorted out enough to be worth anything...

When life seems like it’s going ok, When you don’t really have all that much to complain about. When the only real problems are how you’re going to cram that last 15 minutes online into making one last thing for your Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 mod, and someone says ‘MaDa’s dead...’ Suddenly everything stops. Everything around you plummets. What you were doing, who you were talking to, what you were thinking... all of it floods from your mind. And the cold, and lonesome memories drip... drop... drip... drop into the brain cavity you call a conscience. You begin to remember the smart, sensual, kind, resourceful, subtle, laid back kid who called himself Madaventor.
The first time I’d ever heard of Adam was when I was making a level. I had a friend look my level over, and he claimed it was horrid, and that I needed new textures. I flew into the chat.massassi.net applet and began spamming for some textures. MaDa PMed me, and offered me his site. He explained everything I’d need to set up his textures, and even offered to come play the level with me after I’d implemented them. He never had to do that, and he really shouldn’t have. But he did. Thinking back, I’d asked some of the stupidest questions, ones that make the newbie’s of today look like experts. But MaDa mentioned nothing of my insolence. Mentioned nothing about my ignorance of the amazing and well done tutorials that were there for these sorts of things. He just used his noggin, and introduced me to the finer points of JED, and level editing.
I hadn’t known him that well, and had long forgotten about his helping hand with the textures. But after he’d made posts of his departure for surgery, I had begun to study his site. Make a few posts, and even discuss how his textures were far superior to anyone else’s. MaDa popped his head in the chat after his surgeries, and was complaining of headaches. I was glad to see him back, and bothered him probably a lot more than I really should have. He was perfectly calm, and light hearted. He told me everything about the surgeries, as we’d gotten into a deep discussion about how we despised male nurses. We could really relate to each other, having gone through so much hell in hospital beds... We understood each other's gripes, and it seemed to make him feel better.
I and a few of his none-ian friends were talking on MSN once about some video-game. Someone mentioned how it had many un-Christian things in it, and how that was a very bad thing. Everyone gave equally Christian concurrences, including MaDa, while I hung my head in an Atheist shame. The person who’d initiated the question asked me why I hadn’t replied, and I quietly stated my religious backgrounds, and my beliefs towards keeping an open religious status-quo in stories and videogames. The group of Christians immediately dived at me, making sharp, and often rude comments directed at my Religious Views. MaDa stepped in, and scolded his friends. Many of you know how much of a Christian Adam was, and how his Religion meant more to him than anything else, or anyone else. His religion came first. Despite that, here was one of the most Religious people I know, sticking up for someone who was against everything he believed. MaDa claimed that I had every right to my own religion, and every right to my own views. Just because they didn’t concur with their views, it didn’t make my opinions less valid. That day changed my religious views. I’m still a Proud Atheist, but I now carry with me an acceptance for all people’s ideals and walks of life. Everything from Catholicism to Wicca is accepted into my daily mainstream. I no longer view all Christians as the same boastful and closed-minded people. I now have almost my own class of Religion. One that Adam made possible.
Madaventor is, and will always be one of Massassi’s most mature, kind, fun, dedicated members. Somewhere, some newbie is going to ask a dumb question, and the spirit of MaDa will fill me, and I should hope every one of us, to help this person. Adam would have helped anyone, and he’d keep a happy air to everything he typed, whether the person he was typing too accepted MaDa or not. Whether someone was rude to him, or even swore at him. Adam would keep his ground, as a kind, and loving person.
It’s not really my job to do this, but I’d better to it, just to make sure it gets done. *Reaches into the Box of souls, and draws out the brightest* I think this doesn’t belong to Massassi anymore...

Live on Adam.

Brandon (JediKirby) St. Germaine

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2003-12-10, 12:35 PM #166
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originally posted by jEDIkIRBY:
we all should make a level pack with all of his textures, as sort of a tribute.
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I think that's a very appropriate thing to do.
I never knew him, but I saw his name on a few posts (and I think levels/mods, too).

R.I.P.
MaDaVentor
Died: 4:15 AM, December 9, 2003
You sounded like a great person. Would've been great to know more about you and stuff...
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2003-12-10, 12:40 PM #167
I can't even remember when I met Adam. It was a very long time ago. Massassi-time sort of blurs when you've known someone for a long time. It's very strange to think that I knew this person better than I know some of my friends. He was amiable. He was always willing to help with something when you needed it. The picture of the PSP CD I posted earlier - he sent me that CD, without even talking about money. He had an old copy and sent it to me without talk of repayment or "you owe me one." He was truly a nice person. I also had hosting on The Limelite. I don't know how many other people did, but I just asked him if I could have some webspace, and right then and there he hooked me up.

I remember beta testing Acid Storage Facility with him. We had good times together. I didn't talk to him as much as time went on, and I haven't talked to him in months. It really makes me sad to see him go.

I seriously hadn't cried for years before yesterday. Tears for a person I could have known better - a person who deserved to be known.
2003-12-10, 12:47 PM #168
I...I'm at a loss for words...
I didn't know him nearly as well as I would have liked but I can tell he was awesome...may we all live by his example...
I am so sorry for those that were close to him
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goodbye Mada, Rest In Peace
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2003-12-10, 12:54 PM #169
I believe that MaDa's last post should forever be kept in the Archives of Massassi, never to be ereased...ever..
sigs are fun stuff
2003-12-10, 12:56 PM #170
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2003-12-10, 12:59 PM #171
I think we should get a little image somewhere on massassi (Maybe MaDa's level pages?) That says something like "In memory of MaDaVentor".
In the kind of way you get plaques on benches.

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2003-12-10, 1:26 PM #172
I spent some time reading through the Bible, seeing if I could find a suitable epitaph, as it were. I don't know how well I succeeded, maybe it's just the alcohol playing with my head, but there's something fitting about these lines.

John 11:21-28
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=John+11%3A21-28&search.x=25&search.y=16
2003-12-10, 1:29 PM #173
Hope it wasn't too painful a death for him, he was one the cooler guys to see posting here.

Rest in peace.

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2003-12-10, 2:03 PM #174
Man......Rest In Peace, this makes us think about how mortal we really are [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]
2003-12-10, 2:30 PM #175
I think the tribute pack would be great. I'm on a 28k connection but no matter the size, I will download it.

Mada was a great person to talk to, I loved talking with him. He will be a great loss to Massassi and the world in general. He will be missed and I plan to download everything Mada and play it to tribute him.

Brooks "Outlaw Torn"Arnold

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2003-12-10, 2:52 PM #176
Oh my God...I've been away so long, I didn't even know.

I remember back when I had ICQ, he used to send me textures for his Acid Storage Facility. He would ask me to critique them...and I had no idea what to look for, because I wasn't an editor. He was a nice guy, and he was very talented. My heart goes out to his family and friends.

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2003-12-10, 3:11 PM #177
*watches JediKirby release the brightest, nicest, bestest of lights into the heavens beyond...*

Although I never had the pleasure of meeting him, I know he was a good guy. Just earlier, I posted a comment on a forum he made, heh, I thought it was funny. I wanted to get an opinion in [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

But then, tonight, now, I come here. And to think, I was talking to a loved one who can not talk back. I feel so bad, being a stupid video gamer, no-life JK nerd! And in that time I was to busy to notice anything about his condition! I have all my heart to him, and I am sad, to sad to even tell a joke. Now is not the time to joke, I think I will just... sleep... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

Gods speed, gods speed...
*salutations*

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2003-12-10, 3:17 PM #178
Commander Hunt broke the news to me today. I knew him well, better than I know most of the people here. He always helped me with advice when I wanted it, and was such a talented and brilliant mind. It is so sad that he had to go, but at least it was peaceful.

My next release is going to be dedicated to Adam, we all will miss you very much! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2003-12-10, 3:25 PM #179
I kind of have more of a mind for writing so maybe this won't interest you but do you think we could compose something in memory of him? Like everyone write a stanza of a poem or quote something that seems fitting to you if you would rather do that than write something of your own? Overall just a big piece that illustrates how we remember him and such?

just an idea...

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2003-12-10, 3:33 PM #180
sugarless: that'd be great.
i'm working on the main bit for the memorial site (MaDaVentor.net... it's not up yet but we have the domain) and i'm going to have a page for anything we -ians want to say/write about him.

i'd appreciate anything you want to write [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2003-12-10, 3:37 PM #181
Not MaDa... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]


[This message has been edited by Omicron88 (edited December 10, 2003).]
2003-12-10, 3:38 PM #182
[http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] as i stated before this is very sad. But why did it have to be the holiday season? i even cried. probably will some other time too to get it out. He helped me with my level and learning, he gave me tecniques in textures ect. He was always faithful and high spirited. I know he will still help us when we need him (im Christian- if ur not and you dont like it, shove it, because Mada was too i think.) You know what's weird, some other people were saying stories like this, but over the past week or so i started thinking about Mada, and the other day i searched for his textures on google image search since his stie was down, and i found the pictures he made editing his church sign. http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=madaventor
Im sure if he were here now he would appreciate this. And you know what makes me feel even sadder is at dinner my brother said that he wanted to take my dog up to the hospital to see all the kids there and try to make them feel better. Which makes me...awww im crying now =/ feel like i could have done something for him. Then last week one of my best friends was in a car acident and broke her arm, and now my aunt and uncle are getting seperated and im all sad. I know for a fact that if Adam were hear right now he'd try to help me. I miss him already. Im not sure if anyone feels the way i do. but mada is the first time i acually lost a friend in this matter. I'm gonna dedicate the mod me and DP are making to him and his family. I guess its better if i talk about this and go on and on. But everytime i think of him i feel like hes here with me. All he wanted was us to be happy.


sorry for my mispelling ect.

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NightFire
2003-12-10, 3:41 PM #183
I'm disappointed we never met- I've only heard good things regarding him. My sincere condolences to his friends and family.
The man in black fled across the desert, and the Gunslinger followed...
2003-12-10, 4:06 PM #184
I read this last night shortly after it was posted. At the time, I had trouble believing it. I couldn't think of anything to say, which is why I've delayed posting until now. Yet as I sit here, I'm finding that it's still difficult to find the words. I'll try my best to express how I feel though.

I read earlier today that Massassi is like a family. This is the truth. The Massassi Temple is very much like a big extended family. You have several generations of members. You have many different age groups. Many different opinions. At no time, however, is this more apparent than when a tragedy such as this occurs. As Massassi is an extended family, I find myself in an interesting and perhaps awkward situation. This in itself could be the reason I have trouble finding words. I never really met MaDaVentor. If I were to place him in the Massassi family in relation to myself, he would most likely be a far distant talented and artistic cousin. A cousin whom I've seen pictures of twice, whose "letters" (posts) I've read, and whose artistic work I've seen.

The release of MaDa's Acid Storage Facility for Dark Forces II brought about the first time I ever really paid any attention to this cousin. Forever after, however, I'd always connect the name with the level, and from there, the rest of what I'd come to learn. When I learned of his cancer and surgery, it brought a wave of emotions. I was concerned, amazed, happy he'd gotten through it, and, like everyone else, hopeful that would be the end of it. It was after this post that I really remember looking at every thread he started. The Lobster made from Legos and the Losbster cake. The Lego Imperial Star Destroyer. The Make a Wish Foundation. I became a person who heard and watched his cousin, but never really said anything. Looking back, I'd wish I had.

MaDaVentor was a person that every soul at Massassi (if they knew even a little about him) looked up to and admired.

In case it hasn't become clear, I find it hard to write anything because I didn't know him personally. Yet, I feel I must because I did have a strong reaction to the news. This has resulted in a post that upon re-reading it, is hard to read in places. I apologise, but it's the best I can do to express my feelings.

I really admired MaDaVentor and only wish I'd gotten to know him better.

Here's to hoping that where ever he is and whatever he's doing, he's having a great time.

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2003-12-10, 4:12 PM #185
i cant stop crying-i never cry
NightFire
2003-12-10, 4:13 PM #186
I've just sat and read every single post on this thread, its so sad, for such a thing to happen. I never knew MaDa, I've never talked to him, all I've ever seen is his amazing work.

Half-way through the thread I started to cry, the response from so many over the misfortune of one is a great thing, and it fills my heart with joy to see how loved one person can be.

If it was his time, it was his time, hes in a much better place, God rest his soul. Such a great person will be so sorely missed, and never replaced, never forgotten. Rest in Peace MaDa.
2003-12-10, 4:14 PM #187
ditto... i can't stay on these threads for more than liek 3 minutes before I have to go leave and do something to distract myself. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] I didn't expect it to hit me this hard... i barely knew him.... death has only effected me once before... and it still has impact on me I guess... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2003-12-10, 4:16 PM #188
MaDa, we all are with you in spirit. Thank you for all your support, help and dedication for Massassi. Rest in peace our friend.

I myself never knew him that well, just a few brush incounters. I knew from when I first saw his posts that he was a good man. May God have mercy on his soul. Amen.

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2003-12-10, 4:17 PM #189
May the angels lead him to paradise.
2003-12-10, 4:43 PM #190
who brought back the thread that he made about the make a wish foundation?
it wasent me despite me having the last poast. and [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

i'm just creeped out couse i thought{when i saw the thread} it was a hoks and he was back again [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]


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2003-12-10, 4:52 PM #191
You will live forever in our hearts.

Rest in peace, MaDa.

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2003-12-10, 7:54 PM #192
Haven't posted here in...god, must be more than a year...

From what I remember of Mada, he was quite possibly the best person I ever knew; I can't remember when I first met him, and I'm sure that even a year ago, he wouldn't have remembered me. Still, though, I feel as if I know him well, if not from chatting with him directly, then from reading his posts on Massassi and The Limelite.

Dammit, I keep expecting some sort of practical joke or something...some cruel practical joke...

He was an excellent artist, a great friend, and overall, an extraordinary human being. He will be missed and mourned by all.

If there be a God, then surely He made Mada's passing comfortable, and will help his family to go through the entirety of the mourning process, and continue with their lives until such time as they can rejoin him.

Rest in peace, Mada. You will be missed by all.

Ah ****, I figured I was gonna get trhough this withotu fucikng crying...

jh

[This message has been edited by Jedi Howell (edited December 10, 2003).]
2003-12-10, 8:01 PM #193
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Super S51:
I spent some time reading through the Bible, seeing if I could find a suitable epitaph, as it were. I don't know how well I succeeded, maybe it's just the alcohol playing with my head, but there's something fitting about these lines.

John 11:21-28
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=John+11%3A21-28&search.x=25&search.y=16
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I picked up my Bible and read those same lines. I felt they fit in very well. Nice choice, S51.

I need to pick up this book more often...I really do.

/me gets out his rosary and starts praying.

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2003-12-10, 8:10 PM #194
This is terrible.

I used to chat very often with him over AIM... as a matter of fact, he was one of the 10 or so permanent contacts I had in Trillian. The last few months I hadn't seen him online, though, and began wondering what was up with him.

I was always a fan of his work, especially his smoothly textures levels, but I only started to really get to know him when I approached him for help on a project I was working on. Although he ended up not participating actively, we started chatting regularly over AIM. I always used to test his levels for him (and take screenshots for him to post on the Showcase), discuss his textures with him, and generally just chat about any old thing. We even chatted through SMS over our cellphones once for about half an hour when I was stuck with with my car somewhere.

After his first surgery I remember talking to him a lot about his condition... when he had difficulty putting his thoughts to writing. He wanted to shut down his site and stop making textures, but I tried to convince him not to. One thing I remember from these conversations is that he never expressed any self-pity, but just mentioned all the ordeals he went through as some sort of uninteresting objective experience.

Recently, however (the last few months), I think I lost some of my patience with him, and started chatting with him less and less, till eventually I stopped seeing him online altogether. Looking back now I'm very sorry that happened; I had no idea what he was going through. I think the last conversation we had he mentioned that he had undergone surgery for the second time, but somehow I was still under the impression that he was steadily on his way to recovery. I was wrong.

Thanks for being a great guy, Adam. You will be missed.
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2003-12-10, 8:31 PM #195
I never knew Mada. Didn't even know about him. Or even, this site. I saw the news posted on Jedi Knight.net. Started reading this fourm, and I'll be honest. I've been crying. So much love, and respect for him. Praise the Fallen.

And, may the Force be with you. Always.

I'm hurting over this, and I didn't even know him. I can't even imagine what you people are going through.

= RiP =

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2003-12-11, 12:13 AM #196
I hope his parents see the response on here, he's had a profound effect on all of us.

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2003-12-11, 2:42 AM #197
ALl of these ideas are great, we need a memorial for him, to let him, and others know we, the massassians, loved Mada. He was the light at the end of a dark tunnel for us, always a nice thing to say at the end of the day.

Rest In Peace, Mada

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2003-12-11, 3:27 AM #198
I dont know what to say...

A great loss, he will be missed.

Anakin

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2003-12-11, 3:36 AM #199
I am shocked,sad . i have sent him emails on how good his stuff is over time . we was always optimistic on his condition .I thought he had this thing beat. he will be missed . my prayers go out Adam and his family . Parents should never out live their childeren, i feel for them .

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2003-12-11, 4:37 AM #200
This is horrible. I'm so sorry, to the family, to the friends, and to the community here that loved him so much. I never had the opportunity to meet him, but I know him well from my lurking days. May he rest in peace. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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-Elizabeth Kübler-Ross
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