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Texas is voting on same sex marriage
2005-11-08, 4:21 PM #121
But there are far more people dedicated to ensuring the accuracy and authenticity of the Bible than there are Episode III.
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2005-11-08, 4:28 PM #122
Episode III sucked.
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2005-11-08, 4:36 PM #123
Originally posted by THRAWN:
Wolfy, that may be true on the small extent, but remember that case of the translation of Revenge of the Sith into Chinese then back to English? If the original bible were written in Latin, then translated into Arabic then translated into English you think it would be the same way fully? I could get on an online translator, translate a sentence into Spanish then French then German then Spanish then English and I would bet moneyi t won't be the same.



Lets try it:

Wolfy, by which he can be truth in the small degree, but reminds of this case of the translation of the revenge Sith in Chinese then again of Englishmen? If the original Bible were written in latin, which was translated to it to Arab, to it at English on, thinks it was translated which would be - the same kind complete? It could receive in an on-line translator, I translates a speech at Englishmen of the Spaniard of the German of the French of the Spaniard then then then then and it became bets that moneyi the t will be not alike.

Now, that doesn't really make a lot of sense and it would be possible to draw many meanings out of it.
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2005-11-08, 4:52 PM #124
One would hope that theologians would do something more than copy and paste the Bible into Babelfish. :p
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2005-11-08, 8:03 PM #125
I want that TSM kid to come back. Seriously, I need that guy to maybe get some enlightenment on reading things from a totally biased perspective.
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2005-11-08, 8:20 PM #126
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2005-11-08, 8:22 PM #127
Well it apparently passed in Texas.
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2005-11-08, 8:22 PM #128
Just to inform you, if you hadn't heard:

Texas voted to ban Gay Marriage 76% to 34%

Thank god I'm moving out of this ******* hellhole.
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2005-11-08, 9:14 PM #129
I'm going to blame this on saberopus. He should have done something!
2005-11-08, 9:16 PM #130
I'd like to voice my opinion on the matter:

In terms of politics, I don't think the government can ban gay marriage, since it infringes upon the indiviuals right and pursuit of happiness.

In terms of my religion (Orthodox Judaism), we hold that nothing is wrong with being gay. We do however hold that it is wrong to act on this tempation.
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2005-11-08, 9:19 PM #131
Originally posted by GabrielBlumenthal:
In terms of my religion (Orthodox Judaism), we hold that nothing is wrong with being gay. We do however hold that it is wrong to act on this tempation.


So don't. ;)
2005-11-08, 9:27 PM #132
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I want that TSM kid to come back. Seriously, I need that guy to maybe get some enlightenment on reading things from a totally biased perspective.


Im being biased? let me see if I did misinterpret what you said

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Gay stuff isn't logical, because children can't result from it. That's the only thing I see wrong with it. I, however, think love is universal. I don't distinguish my love for my female and male friends. However, I couldn't have anything more than an intimate friendship with a male because I can't have children with a guy, and getting it in the pooper isn't my idea of "making love" A personal preference, so gaylove is perfectly ok by my standards. If they need the officiality of marriage to love eachother, why deny them that?

The only reason why I DON'T appreciate gay people is that [however, I'm not one to say who is gay, and who isn't] it's "cool" to be gay, now. I've heard opinions that homosexuality was reinstated as a marketing ploy for the next best cool thing for teenagers. Waltzing around acting like a *** isn't at all, in any way, a resemblance to who you love. I absolutelly HATE that being gay means being an affeminate man who wears tight geans and butthumps at gaybars. Why, exactly, one needs to be so showy if all that's different about them is their love interests, fails me.

Flashing your gaypride allows me to ask you why the hell you're gay: Is it to fit some steriotypical social class so you can feel unified, or do you truly feel love for the same sex? Or maybe you DO feel love for the same sex, but would love to cash in on it by living it as a "lifestyle." The moment your sex determines your lifestyle is the moment you're a sick pig. A straight guy is a pig if he lives a lifestyle based around his sex, and it's no different for you, gayboys.

I really just hate showy people. I don't wear "Midget Pride" T-Shirts or prefer people call me an Little Person. They can call me midget, crippled, whatever: That doesn't change who I am. If humans weren't so fed up with their goddamned labels, maybe we'd get something done along the lines of equality. Until then, people will DEFINE themselves as equal, and thus, destroy that equality with some sick reasoning of assumed equality.

JediKirby


Now I dont think I was taking anything out of context, I acknowledged that you arent against gays, but was simply questioning things like "Gay stuff isn't logical, because children can't result from it. That's the only thing I see wrong with it." and "it's "cool" to be gay, now."


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Also, it isn't logical if children don't result. The first and foremost feeling in any animal is that they need to survive, both them and their species. Homosexuality goes against this in every way.


that doesn't make being gay illogical, it just means being gay for reproduction is illogical. Being intimate with someone of the same sex could yield people pleasure, therefore being completly logical for them both. And it's not necessairly true that the first and foremost feeling in any animal is to have offspring, not all people want offspring.


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You just read my ENTIRE post with a big fat biased that made me look like I was attacking homosexuality.


Not at all, reread my replies, they are specific to certain things you said, im not saying you are attacking homosexuality, but refuting things you are saying, reread your post and my replies if you're confused by this

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That 3 letter word starting with F means nothing different at all from Gay


this statement is simply false

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Stop kidding yourself if you think applying different words for the same thing makes one more offensive than the other. The N word is only as bad as it's intended. Same with "Black." Intentions make the killer, not the gun.


again I totally disagree, certain words just can't have a good connotation. When would it be ok to use the N word?



and off topic


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Episode III sucked.


I disagree and it was my favorite Star Wars film
2005-11-08, 9:30 PM #133
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']So don't. ;)


um, what are you saying?
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2005-11-08, 9:31 PM #134
Originally posted by TSM_Bguitar:
again I totally disagree, certain words just can't have a good connotation. When would it be ok to use the N word?


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2005-11-08, 9:36 PM #135
I disagree, I dont think its ok even then ^


anyway there has been alot of debate about homosexuality and population control, etc.

This is all based on an assumption that being homosexual is a learned thing and not something your're born with.
2005-11-08, 9:51 PM #136
Its fine for anotehr black man to call his black friends "nigga". The term "nigga" and "nigg**" have different meanings. Especially in the streets and to black people. It's not a white persons decision to say its right or wrong.
2005-11-08, 10:29 PM #137
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']I'm going to blame this on saberopus. He should have done something!


And my mom. She voted against it too.
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2005-11-08, 11:32 PM #138
It's not suprising; it is Texas afterall.
2005-11-09, 1:34 AM #139
But the word is still disrespectful and degrading to the majority of black people over 30 or so.
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2005-11-09, 5:02 AM #140
TSM, I was saying "The only thing 'wrong' with homosexuality" that is, the only thing I can see anyone considering wrong, is that it logically doesn't result in children. I was being modest, as I see nothing wrong at all, myself, with homosexuality, considering I myself am Bi.

Furthermore, your insecurities with language make me giggle. If a word is used in a negative connotation, the PERSON is being immature and idiotic. The actual word itself is JUST A WORD. *** is a cute word for gay; I use it all the time. Gayboy is just wordplay. I'm a poet, I use language because it sounds or works well in language.

I still think you read my entire post as if I found homosexuality wrong, or improper. I was discussing the negative aspects that I believe people can't get over. I draw from this when you said 'people like you' in your post, as refering to me.

As well, I can't stand the "I'm going to flaunt my sexuality to spite you" argument. That's just lookism. If there's a physical part to dress for a sexuality, than you're an actor in a play. Stop trying to entertain people and try living life.

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2005-11-09, 5:04 AM #141
This thread is retarded, gay, black and doesn't deserve to be married.
2005-11-09, 6:12 AM #142
Wow. Rob posted something I actually enjoyed.

Can I question the whole "homosexuality is a evolutionary response to overpopulation" idea? The whole thing makes absolutely no sense according to what I understand about evolution. Let me try and outline what the idea looks like to me.

- A homosexual male is born through a small genetic mutation.
- Straight males reproduce and pass on their genes.
- Homosexual men do not.
- There is a slight drop in the birth rate.
- The homosexuality gene does not get passed on.

It seems to me that the only way homosexuality could greatly decrease population increase is if the mutation happened randomly every generation. But that doesn't make any sense, does it? What is causing the mutations to occur? There's no passing on of genes. The gene should die out! Is there some mysterious entity causing the mutations to occur more frequently during periods of overpopulation? I know that's not the case because that's not evolution.

Is there something I'm missing?
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2005-11-09, 6:17 AM #143
What if in all of us there was a flaming homosexual, and through the magic of circumstance it was repressed?

HOLY CRAP WE ALL HAVE THE GAY GENE!
2005-11-09, 6:57 AM #144
Originally posted by SMOCK!:
Is there something I'm missing?


I've heard it proposed that the "gay gene" is actually recessive, so it takes two people with the "gay gene" to reproduce and produce a homosexual child. All theory, of course, without any real genetic evidence to back it up.
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2005-11-09, 7:33 AM #145
Then wouldn't several or all of that couple's children be gay?

(I don't know much about genetics)
2005-11-09, 7:37 AM #146
If two people have the recessive gene, then they both have the heterosexual gene - so, no, not necessarily all of them.
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2005-11-09, 2:20 PM #147
Originally posted by Rob:
This thread is retarded, gay, black and doesn't deserve to be married.

Same goes for you, punk.
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2005-11-09, 2:35 PM #148
Originally posted by Bill:
Same goes for you, punk.

Haha, Rob is gay.
2005-11-09, 2:41 PM #149
And black. Ha ha.
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2005-11-09, 3:23 PM #150
Originally posted by GabrielBlumenthal:
um, what are you saying?


I said that if you think it's wrong to act on homosexual urges, then don't. There shouldn't be any problem whatsoever.
2005-11-09, 8:29 PM #151
And retarded. Ha ha.
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2005-11-10, 10:46 AM #152
being gay is not natural. it goes against one of the most basic instincts that all life on earth share - the will to procreate. being handicapped is not normal - it is a product of, to put it in layman's terms, '****ed up' dna.

of course, as humans with morals and a higher level of "intelligence" than primates, we accept these outliers of society because it's the "humane" thing to do. i dont agree with gay people's choices, but that doesn't mean believe that shunning them or taking away certain privileges is right.

also, homophobia is a misnomer. just because i dont agree with gay people's choices doesn't mean i have "an irrational fear" of them.
2005-11-10, 10:49 AM #153
Funny how something that's found NATURALLY in NATURE could be thought of as "not natural".
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2005-11-10, 2:57 PM #154
Originally posted by ragna:
also, homophobia is a misnomer. just because i dont agree with gay people's choices doesn't mean i have "an irrational fear" of them.

pho·bi·a
1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.
2005-11-10, 3:02 PM #155
Originally posted by ragna:
being gay is not natural. it goes against one of the most basic instincts that all life on earth share - the will to procreate.


...except gay people. Or do they not count as life?

Originally posted by ragna:
being handicapped is not normal - it is a product of, to put it in layman's terms, '****ed up' dna.


****ed up DNA? Um, how do you think evolution occurs?
2005-11-10, 4:32 PM #156
So if I get in a car accident and suffer a spinal cord injury, it's because my DNA is '****ed up'?

Well golly, I sure hope I don't ever become handicap, I might make my children weak with my DNA.
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2005-11-10, 4:39 PM #157
Yeah, it's true. Handicapped people shouldn't procreate.

And just for good measure, let's kill all the Jews too.

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2005-11-11, 8:40 AM #158
Originally posted by Wolfy:
I've heard it proposed that the "gay gene" is actually recessive, so it takes two people with the "gay gene" to reproduce and produce a homosexual child. All theory, of course, without any real genetic evidence to back it up.

Mm, yeah. You're right about that part.

But that still doesn't explain how this gay gene helps control population.
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2005-11-11, 9:01 AM #159
Originally posted by SMOCK!:
Mm, yeah. You're right about that part.

But that still doesn't explain how this gay gene helps control population.


Right, I don't understand that hypothesis either.

I had this one theory mentioned in my courses - homosexuality could be selected for, as a trait that minimizes agression and decreases within-family competition for scarce resources (mating partners) between genetically related organisms (inclusive fitness!!). One prediction this theory makes is that homosexuality should occur more in families in which the mother is more fertile (=bigger families). This has been confirmed I think, but it's still a broad hypothesis and obviously we are still more or less clueless.
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2005-11-11, 10:07 AM #160
I, for one, think having the government involved in marriage in the first place is far more harmful than allowing gays to marry.
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