Huh?

I've got a good joke too! LOL!

What's the difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians?
Israeli weapons are reusable. LOL.

Hey, if you're one kind of bigot....


I was just kinda throwing them out there to see if they stuck. I'll admit that 'racist' probably won't, since he seems to feel the same way about white American Muslims as the does about the brown sand-covered kind. Homophobic definitely did stick though.

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Kuffar is the derogatory term for none believers that is being used by bearded lunatics in mosques throughout the world. The kuffar is to be killed or otherwise subjugated.

Just so nobody misses it.

look under "other religious terrorists"

Lord's Resistance Army: Christian/Pagan/Muslim terrorist group that operates in northern Uganda.

wow, Christian, pagan and Muslim!?

now THATS setting your differences aside!

Yeah, but the comment seemed, uh...

non sequitur?

I'm not bigoted against muslims. I don't think muslims are intrinsically bad. I'm just stripping the political correctness away from the issue. It is a fact that those who believe they are good muslims have been committing heinous acts in the name of their religion so arguing that religion should be discreditted as a possible factor in any event of this nature is idealistic.

The reason I'm digging a hole for myself is that I'm not trying to persuade anybody to my point of view. I also care nothing about what anyone here thinks about me. I'm perfectly content with people assuming I'm a racist idiot. Who really cares what a few anonymous internet posters think about them anyway?

"Oh ****! A majority of terrorists are not Muslim! Whatever shall I do with my simplistic view of the world?"



When's the last time a Jew walked into a mosque and started shooting? Here's a hint: It wasn't that long ago.

Not that I know what event you're referring to but, really, who could blame him?

You are to bigoted against Muslims, because apparently you are unwilling to strip away the "political correctness" surrounding Christianity's lack of mention in the press. BTW, you're not "stripping away political correctness," you're an asinine bigot. There's a pretty big difference.

Uh....? Given that your typical mosque will include people who don't support violent action against Israel, I would hope a number of people could and would.

Hint: supporting the existence of a Palestinian state is not the same as supporting the destruction of Israel.

Are you ****ing serious? Dear God the army really is full of idiots.

Every single point you attempted to make is wrong. Christianity very clearly forbids killing. The fact that it tells the stories of sinners who did kill does not mean it's condoned. It's actually rather specifically condemned. "Thou shalt not kill". Also, I don't think Jesus would go around killing people, even if they were 'dirty muslim sand ******s'. It doesn't matter how many people you save, the murder is still wrong, and you deserve punishment for it.

Islam also forbids murder, even the murder of infidels. It preaches peaceful coexistence with other religions. We aren't evil because we aren't Muslim, we're just mistaken, and should be converted through peaceful means.

And I'll tell you again : The terrorists aren't Muslims. They say they are, but they aren't. A Muslim who actually understands and follows his religion is no more capable of these acts than is a Christian who always tries to do what Jesus would do.

I was raised Christian, not Taoist. I'm also fairly certain that if my mother discovered how completely I've lost my original faith she would freak.

I remember saying this but none of you believed me.

There's a lot of people in the Army. It's natural that there's plenty of idiots.

Interestingly enough, I've found that I just... don't notice what color someone is. Now, if he was chanting stuff about Allah and had wires poking out of his turban, I might be concerned, but it'd be the wires that did it and not the Allah Ackbar. You hear about those guys that got on an airplane and started chanting in Arabic, and then talking about killing infidels, and were dressed in burkas and turbans, then when they got kicked off the plane, turned around and sued the airline for millions? Yeah, it turns out it was a pair of white guys from Boston. They weren't even Muslim. Good times.

I have no idea what the problem most of you have with acknowledging the fact that a minority of muslims want to kill you because you aren't a good muslim like they think they are. There is a Jihad against us by certain muslims. "Us" are those who are considered not to be good muslims. Being that there is a declared war against us, it is relevant to point out when violent acts are committed against us by muslims. It is not discriminatory to point out facts.

Nobody is denying the fact that there are Muslims who want to kill us. What we're denying is that being raised as a Muslim makes you violent, which is what your entire argument has revolved around. This is a red herring to distract us from your original and horrendously offensive, bigoted and plainly incorrect statements.

Wait... "I'm not I'm not bigoted against muslims... but I don't see anything wrong with a Jew murdering innocent muslims."

ok that right there! is JUST as bad as anything wookie has said.
and wookie if all you were saying is that there are some muslims who want to kill us because we are not muslim, i dont think anyone would argue. however earlier you were saying or rather implying that ALL muslims want to kills non-muslims. and all muslims are evil, and what not. im not trying to get on your case for not being pc, trust me i disdain political correctness like nothing else, but if your going to be "politically incorrect" you should at least be accurate.

I'm going to assume that you were recently harmed by some sort of rabid animal and that these rants and raves are purely the result of your brain starting to die.

What perplexes me is that I'd never heard of Al Qaeda or any anti muslim or for that matter racism problems about 10 years ago. Thats a very rough period because I cant remember when this crap started.

I think I found the answer to this question; it's "Jews don't blow themselves up."

I'm as pro-Israel as the next guy, but even without bringing up the military, it takes a special kind of ignorance to believe no Israeli Jews have committed terrorist acts.

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I notice what colour someone is, because I have functioning eyes. I just don't care what colour someone is.

First, let me apologize if any of my comments have offended anybody.



Really my statement was more meant as satire but I don't expect that will be believed.



I don't think all muslims are bad. Not even most. I believe that most muslims are good people. Apparently it is "racist" for me to acknowledge the fact that some muslims do evil in the name of their religion and for me to support full disclosure of the fact that the killer in Utah was muslim because it could have been a relevant fact. I'm not advocating any type of discrimination or retribution against muslims in general. That would be ignorant.

You're still diverting from what you were originally saying. So not all Muslims are evil people, it just happens that they have the birth defect of being born into an inherently violent religion? Apparently, it is bigoted to attack the entirety of the Muslim religion, and view it as a personal problem that a person can overcome without falling into violence.

That's silly. Everybody has some ounce of prejudice, it's only natural.

No, I can say that. I earned the right to say that.

Nobody earns the right to make broad generalized statements about a religious group that promote hatred and warmongering.


You're born into it. You know, like how Jews can make Jewish jokes. DISCLAIMER:Yes, this last line was Satirical. Since this is the internet, it only makes sense to put a confused pokemon when you are trying to be satirical, instead of making statements that can easily be taken as genuine opinion, and then weasling your way out of it.

....who are you satirizing? Yourself?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.


Psyduck has a headache. He is holding his head in pain. You post psyduck when something makes you feel like that.

Stating that islam is inherently violent is not attacking the religion. I'm simply pointing out the fact. Having said that I acknowledge that not all, or even most, muslims are inherently violent. There is absolutely nothing controversial with this opinion. If you don't believe that islam is inherently violent simply look at how islamic nations that rule themselves by islamic law conduct themselves. While I'm on this note it is also appropriate to point out how discriminatory islamic nations are as well.

Wow. I apologize Wookie06. I've been away from the thread for a day or two and I never intended it turn into this. Of course, I should have seen it would happen.

Question: How many people here have read the Quran?

It seems like a prerequisite for discussing whether or not Islam is an inherently violent religion.

Full disclosure: I haven't read it either. I totally should, though.

Also, not all followers of a religion follow it well. Entirely hypothetically, if a religion advocates peace, some followers of that religion might be violent because they suck at following that religion. On the other hand, if a religion advocates violence, some followers of that religion might be peaceful, because they suck at following that religion.

I'm not going to come to any conclusions on which one of those Islam is before I read their founding text, though. Now I'm all motivated to do that -- Google, here I come!

*Googles "quran, english"*

I knew exactly what I was getting into when I took up an opposing view to yours. It is sad that things can get so personal here. You would think more people would realize that this is just a trivial discussion forum. Not something to take so serious. I am slightly curious which moderator decided to change my "avatar" (or whatever you call the text by your username in each post) to the "down syndrome child". It used to be you couldn't use retarded references on this forum to insult people. I respectfully request that it be changed back to what it was and that the moderator who changed it admit so. Failing to do so results in the stipulation that at least one of the moderators here is a coward.

For the record I want to state that I know the smiley is not officially the down syndrome child but the implication is clear.

I don't have the patience to read the entire religious text of a religion I don't follow. You could google Islamic Law or Sharia, or look those up on wikipedia to get the abridged version.

LOL. He gives us a lecture about how we shouldn't take things so seriously on an internet forum, then he immediately proceeds to take things too seriously on an internet forum. Classic.

He's been saying one thing and doing another the whole thread

I just guess my satire didn't carry on the internet. And I didn't actually post a psyduck I posted the down sydrome smiley.

Or something. [/weasel]