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Leviticus 20:13
2007-08-09, 9:14 AM #201
Definitely worth it.
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2007-08-09, 9:58 AM #202
Yahoo well done chaperinos.
2007-08-09, 10:27 AM #203
Details on this bet?
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"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2007-08-09, 10:54 AM #204
Part 1 : Bible quote thread would reach 2 pages in a day
Part 2 : Drama and flaming would issue from said discussion
Part 3 : Would reach 200 posts within a week

Check. Check. Check.
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2007-08-09, 12:48 PM #205
Jep you troll, lol.
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2007-08-09, 3:49 PM #206
Originally posted by JediKirby:
At the same time, it'd be ignorant for us to not state on some level that your beliefs are illogical. That's really the point of the Christian faith is that you believe something that isn't believable. You suspend your disbelief in order to do whatever it is that your particular religion wants you to do.


illogical and unbelievable are not necessarily interlocked. belief is a compleatly relative term. i believe some things you may not. logic however... at least as far as i can tell, is more or less absolute and not relative(at least sound logic).
something may not appear to be logical but that doesnt mean i have to "suspend my disbelief" to accept it. if i believe it, then i believe it. you dont need logic to believe all you need is a reason.

Originally posted by JediKirby:
For someone who can't put aside what they know about the nature of things and the way they work, religion is a seemingly random and stupid thing to believe in. With a understanding, you can get beyond this kind of thinking.


really, why the drive to "cure" people of religion? religion by and large is not the disease, its the scape goat. most of the problems in the church today are not problems with the religion itself. its a problem with the people in power.

as for the horribly painted house bringing down everyone else's property values, if were ultimately talking about religion here, then religious institutions should be especially subject to the laws of the land.

Originally posted by Detty:
We live in societies where religious organisations get tax benefits and government grants, where we wage war in the name of religion (whether religion is the true justification or not). In the US it's incredibly difficult for an 'outed' athiest to get elected to any form of government. The majority of athiest politicians maintain an image of being religious just so that they don't rock the boat. How is this an acceptable state of affairs? Someone becoming unelectable just because of their position on religion; even when their religious views may have no bearing on their fitness to do the job.


i actually have mixed feelings about religious organizations getting tax cuts. if the church is truly run like a non profit org, then i think it is appropriate. more and more churches are being run like business, and if there going to be run like a business they should be subjected to the same tax laws. as for government grants... that just seems like a really poor idea. a church should not need grants from the government.

:rant:
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2007-08-09, 6:53 PM #207
The trouble with philosophy/world-views or what ever you want to call it, is that everyone thinks that they are objective, but in reality no one is. The closest you can get is realizing this.
2007-08-09, 6:57 PM #208
The trouble with opinions is they're a lot like *******s...
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2007-08-09, 11:06 PM #209
...ZULLY likes them.
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2007-08-10, 3:24 AM #210
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
The trouble with philosophy/world-views or what ever you want to call it, is that everyone thinks that they are objective, but in reality no one is. The closest you can get is realizing this.


You can make quantum physicists cry just by saying the words 'measurement problem'.
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The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
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