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Amish Paradise...
2007-09-12, 3:51 PM #1
Probably old news but...


That kind of lifestyle SCARES me! I could never live like those people. Man, they give me the creeps.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 3:52 PM #2
You're practically amish if you haven't seen that before.
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2007-09-12, 3:57 PM #3
Next you'll be telling us how Albuquerque is a ****ed up town.
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2007-09-12, 4:01 PM #4
you were probably 4-5 years old when that song came out :P
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2007-09-12, 4:07 PM #5
I've always known that there were EXTREMIST societies, but they very idea was so repulsive I decided to not explore it further. Then some one happened to show me this video today. They find it funny, and while yes its funny, its also scary.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 4:13 PM #6
Man, that takes me back to middle school. Still one of my favorite Weird Al albums after all this time. I remember watching that video on MTV, back when MTV would still show videos, along with Eat It, Like a Surgeon, Gump, etc. Actually, I think it was a big Weird Al special day.
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2007-09-12, 4:14 PM #7
Besides their highly restrictive lifestyles and religious beliefs, they're actually really nice people, for the most part.
2007-09-12, 4:16 PM #8
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I've always known that there were EXTREMIST societies, but they very idea was so repulsive I decided to not explore it further. Then some one happened to show me this video today. They find it funny, and while yes its funny, its also scary.

It's a ****ing parody video. How can you be so retarded as to take it seriously.

*looks at username*

Nevermind.

Originally posted by Ric_Olie:
Man, that takes me back to middle school. Still one of my favorite Weird Al albums after all this time. I remember watching that video on MTV, back when MTV would still show videos, along with Eat It, Like a Surgeon, Gump, etc. Actually, I think it was a big Weird Al special day.

AlTV baby. Such a great show...
D E A T H
2007-09-12, 4:18 PM #9
You sir, need to watch Witness.

nope.
2007-09-12, 4:26 PM #10
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
It's a ****ing parody video. How can you be so retarded as to take it seriously.

*looks at username*

Nevermind.


AlTV baby. Such a great show...


I read up on their ways of life:

Their dressing, their rejection of the outside world and technology, etc etc... they are as close as one can get to sawed off from the rest of the world and reality, living in their own little world, most likely unaware of any of the events of the world, or at least not up to date.

Then again, thats pretty much all of the ones from the Old Order, I guess the other ones are somewhat more flexible.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 4:45 PM #11
Wow, that took me back. I knew this song before I knew the original.

And you know, they mostly keep to themselves as far as I know. I find them far less scary than many other extreme religious groups, as you put it.

(And they make really good food from what I've tasted)
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Me: I have no idea
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2007-09-12, 4:54 PM #12
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I read up on their ways of life:

Their dressing, their rejection of the outside world and technology, etc etc... they are as close as one can get to sawed off from the rest of the world and reality, living in their own little world, most likely unaware of any of the events of the world, or at least not up to date.

Then again, thats pretty much all of the ones from the Old Order, I guess the other ones are somewhat more flexible.

You're ****ing stupid.

Mennonites, in general, are technologically up to date. They have phones, credit cards, among other amenities. There's no such thing as the true Amish anymore, not to mention the idea of them have been around for ages.

Do you ever leave your house?
D E A T H
2007-09-12, 5:08 PM #13
Jesus H Christ Gold, gain a little perspective. "These people I know little about are different from us, they are obviously wrong." That's the sort of thinking that starts war. Good job!

Also, Yoshi is correct.
nope.
2007-09-12, 5:10 PM #14
I live in Lancaster, PA. I see horse and buggies a good bit. They'll ride bikes into the city.
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2007-09-12, 5:15 PM #15
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I've always known that there were EXTREMIST societies, but they very idea was so repulsive I decided to not explore it further. Then some one happened to show me this video today. They find it funny, and while yes its funny, its also scary.


What the **** is wrong with you? You're from an extremist society, being a Joho or Morm or whatever the hell you are, a background from which I will attribute your many mental handicaps.

Repulsive? Certainly some of the abuse that comes out of being a closed society, but abuse is unfortunately common to closed societies (e.g. Pitcairn Islands), and in no way reflects the beliefs or ideals of the Mennonites, Anabaptists or Amish. Jehovah's witnesses are repulsive, being little more than a brainwashing cult.

The various groups that you ignorantly cluster under Amish are non-violent and believe in the value of virtue, hard work and simple living. They're not simple minds hiding in fear of the outside world.

The various Pennsylvania Dutch groups have hugely influenced American cuisine, culture and aesthetics. Just about any classic American dessert can be traced back to them.

I don't know what else to say except: Shut up, please. Keep your ignorant babbling to yourself.
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2007-09-12, 5:17 PM #16
They choose not to use modern technology, and they don't get out much. Children who come of age have to live for some time in the modern world before they decide to pursue the lifestyle for themselves. How is that scary?
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2007-09-12, 5:39 PM #17
The amish make the best pretzels and deli meats in the world.

/ UHF was on comedy central the other day, that's totally one of my favorite movies ever
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2007-09-12, 5:46 PM #18
Originally posted by Baconfish:
You sir, need to watch Witness.


Oh man, such a good movie.
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2007-09-12, 6:22 PM #19
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
You're ****ing stupid.

Mennonites, in general, are technologically up to date. They have phones, credit cards, among other amenities. There's no such thing as the true Amish anymore, not to mention the idea of them have been around for ages.

Do you ever leave your house?


you must not live around them, or close enough to actually observe Amish people. they do still exist, and they still live like that.

Mennonites are different from Amish.
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2007-09-12, 6:24 PM #20
Originally posted by Ford:
you must not live around them, or close enough to actually observe Amish people. they do still exist, and they still live like that.

Mennonites are different from Amish.

I've experienced Amish and Mennonite culture. While the Mennonites are QUITE A BIT more advanced than the Amish, they're still not as far back as people think.
D E A T H
2007-09-12, 6:29 PM #21
then we agree. or soemthing close to it.
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2007-09-12, 6:36 PM #22
Originally posted by Baconfish:
You sir, need to watch Witness.



I see your Amish movie, sir, and raise you Tim Allen.



And, to quote Robin Williams:

"We're dealing with fundamentalists... the Amish are fundamentalists, but they don't try and hijack a carriage at needlepoint. And, if you're ever in Amish country and you see a man with his hand buried in a horse's ***, that's a mechanic. Remember that."
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2007-09-12, 6:54 PM #23
You know, I have never seen Witness, and I've heard good things about it, but is it really that good? I don't know, the premise would just seem to be...interesting for a drama? I was convinced it was a comedy until people told me it was actually a serious picture. So for those who have seen it, official recommendation?
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2007-09-12, 7:05 PM #24
It's pretty damn awesome?
nope.
2007-09-12, 7:36 PM #25
Originally posted by Nubs:
You know, I have never seen Witness, and I've heard good things about it, but is it really that good? I don't know, the premise would just seem to be...interesting for a drama? I was convinced it was a comedy until people told me it was actually a serious picture. So for those who have seen it, official recommendation?

Good movie. Very good.
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2007-09-12, 7:46 PM #26
Originally posted by Chaz Ghostle:
Next you'll be telling us how Albuquerque is a ****ed up town.


Hey now, you don't live here! You don't know how crazy it is!
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2007-09-12, 8:01 PM #27
There's a HUGE difference between my religion and the Amish people. HUGE. For one, we have believers in almost every country of the world. Second we pretty much reach our fellow members with magazines every month, on time, using the latest in technology and other things to be more productive and waste less. We also use cars, phones, computers, the internet, cell phones, i pods, (the list goes on) in our every day lives, if we can afford them, and don't neglect the people out side of our ways to the extremest extent. Most religions discourage association with people from other religions, ours is no exception, how ever we don't stop people from having friends outside of our religion, we just simply advise against it. We also don't all live collectively in this or that region, in this country or that one. We attend public schools where ever it may be possible.

I think thats just the tip of the ice burg. The very fact that I can post here is a huge difference between my religion and the Amish people.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 8:03 PM #28
And yet I'd rather be Amish than be a part of your religion. (For numerous reasons previously argued that you refuse to admit to)
2007-09-12, 8:06 PM #29
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
And yet I'd rather be Amish than be a part of your religion. (For numerous reasons previously argued that you refuse to admit to)


Some how I don't think that I ever finished discussing that and was not even heard out. Before people even considered reading my posts, they just said I copied and pasted it. People should read more often, instead of dismissing posts for LAME excuses.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 8:08 PM #30
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
There's a HUGE difference between my religion and the Amish people. HUGE. For one, we have believers in almost every country of the world. Second we pretty much reach our fellow members with magazines every month, on time, using the latest in technology and other things to be more productive and waste less. We also use cars, phones, computers, the internet, cell phones, i pods, (the list goes on) in our every day lives, if we can afford them, and don't neglect the people out side of our ways to the extremest extent. Most religions discourage association with people from other religions, ours is no exception, how ever we don't stop people from having friends outside of our religion, we just simply advise against it. We also don't all live collectively in this or that region, in this country or that one. We attend public schools where ever it may be possible.

I think thats just the tip of the ice burg. The very fact that I can post here is a huge difference between my religion and the Amish people.

Except most religions don't say "You shouldn't have friends outside of your religion", most religions don't collect money for some pyramid scheme cultist idealistic bull**** (we're talking sane religions, not scientology/mormonism here), and technology has nothing to do with it. The Amish, if anything, do NOTHING for or against society, and probably add to it if only in cultural ways. You drain society, annoy society, and generally bring religion as a whole down.

It's not our fault there's idiots in almost every country in the world.
D E A T H
2007-09-12, 8:08 PM #31
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I read up on their ways of life:


Atleast they don't lie on the internet and steal.

Your way of life is dispicable. You should go get run over.
2007-09-12, 8:17 PM #32
Yoshi, thats the most ignorant post and argument I have ever heard.

I will have you know my religion does not have any pyramid scheme, its 100% supported, and has always been by VOLUNTARY DONATIONS.

No one is ever FORCED to give money, we hardly ever ask people.

Annoy people? Come on, people get annoyed when they hear something that they DON'T LIKE, and the TRUTH generally comes in that FORM. Instead of just following what some self anointed ******* who calls him self a father/pope/priest/ etc pulled out of his *** and loosely based off of parts of scriptures from the bible token out of context and said it was undeniable truth, we try to literally interpret what the bible means, decode it when its speaks figuratively (in which case the bible even explains its own metaphors). We also are an international relief force, when ever natural disasters occur, like the earth quake in Tokyo that happened a while ago, and many others.
We listen to other people and consider what they say taking into account every detail possible. Nobody said we had to be popular. In fact we know we won't be popular.

And thats a crock of bull. I hear religions ALL THE ****ING TIME ON THE RADIO telling their members to neglect other people from different religions, or too see them as lesser condemned people.

I know you won't listen to me, because you are convinced without even considering what I have to say that I am wrong. And thats fine. I don't need some one who won't even consider what I say, and takes for granted the popular ideas and the top 10 lies of my religion that appear on google/yahoo/your relgion or whatever your source is.

Good night to you sir.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 8:17 PM #33
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Some how I don't think that I ever finished discussing that and was not even heard out. Before people even considered reading my posts, they just said I copied and pasted it. People should read more often, instead of dismissing posts for LAME excuses.


No one cared to listen to you because you refused to believe common sense and hard facts.
2007-09-12, 8:35 PM #34
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Annoy people? Come on, people get annoyed when they hear something that they DON'T LIKE, and the TRUTH generally comes in that FORM.


So when I call you a liar I'm right and you don't like it because it's the truth?
2007-09-12, 8:39 PM #35
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
There's a HUGE difference between my religion and the Amish people. HUGE.


For instance, Johos are a cult that was started in 1931, whereas the Plain People have a long, established history in America.

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For one, we have believers in almost every country of the world. Second we pretty much reach our fellow members with magazines every month, on time, using the latest in technology and other things to be more productive and waste less. We also use cars, phones, computers, the internet, cell phones, i pods, (the list goes on) in our every day lives, if we can afford them, and don't neglect the people out side of our ways to the extremest extent.


You have believers all over the world because there are stupid, gullible people all over the world who are willing to join a cult. A cult. The countries that your kind doesn't exist in, are the ones where you've been expressly banned, such as Singapore or the UAE. The countries with the largest growing Joho population are developing countries, whereas developed countries are losing members for the most part. My explanation for this would be the discrepancy between education systems in developed versus developing countries.

The Plain People don't proseltyize, and since they live in communities together, they don't need to use phones, the internet, podcasts etc to talk to each other. They don't use technology because they choose not to, not because they're forced. And if someone needs to use technology or the outside world, they will allow them, in favor of their life. Unlike Johos, who reject blood transfusions for whatever absurd, cultish reason.

Simply using technology doesn't make you superior. If only the world's best and brightest could use it, then the internet wouldn't be a depraved trolling ground of morons that it is today.

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Most religions discourage association with people from other religions,


False. You know jack **** about other religions, because you belong to a cult.

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ours is no exception, how ever we don't stop people from having friends outside of our religion, we just simply advise against it.


They plain sects don't interact with average people (whom they often refer to as the English) because they realize that they have little in common with them, in terms of lifestyle and life experience. Not to keep their fiendish dream of a technology-free world from being spoiled from outside influence.

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We also don't all live collectively in this or that region, in this country or that one. We attend public schools where ever it may be possible.


They live in separate communities because that is how they wish to live. That's how you have to live in an agriculture-based society. That's how most of our ancestors lived before the industrial revolution.

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I think thats just the tip of the ice burg. The very fact that I can post here is a huge difference between my religion and the Amish people.


The very fact that you can post your ignorant babble is proof that Johos create stupid people.
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2007-09-12, 8:50 PM #36
Originally posted by Wolfy:
I see your Amish movie, sir, and raise you Tim Allen.



And, to quote Robin Williams:

"We're dealing with fundamentalists... the Amish are fundamentalists, but they don't try and hijack a carriage at needlepoint. And, if you're ever in Amish country and you see a man with his hand buried in a horse's ***, that's a mechanic. Remember that."


I see your misformatted youtube link and Robin Williams quote, and I raise you Woody Harrelson as Roy Munson.

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2007-09-12, 9:21 PM #37
Originally posted by stat:
For instance, Johos are a cult that was started in 1931, whereas the Plain People have a long, established history in America.

What does this prove? Jehovah's Witnesses didn't just start from nowhere. Its pretty much the bible studies conducted by many men who dedicated their entire lives to the study of the bible, and came out with what most people considered wrong/stupid because it was different.

Wiki pedia is pretty unbiased, and accurate.

Originally posted by stat:
You have believers all over the world because there are stupid, gullible people all over the world who are willing to join a cult. A cult. The countries that your kind doesn't exist in, are the ones where you've been expressly banned, such as Singapore or the UAE. The countries with the largest growing Joho population are developing countries, whereas developed countries are losing members for the most part. My explanation for this would be the discrepancy between education systems in developed versus developing countries.


Most Jehovah's witnesses are EXCELLENT students, they are well behaved and civilized, trust worthy. This is a common fact.

Originally posted by stat:
The Plain People don't proseltyize, and since they live in communities together, they don't need to use phones, the internet, podcasts etc to talk to each other. They don't use technology because they choose not to, not because they're forced. And if someone needs to use technology or the outside world, they will allow them, in favor of their life. Unlike Johos, who reject blood transfusions for whatever absurd, cultish reason.


Its not absurd. Its biblical:
Acts 15:28,29
For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

God would not have had this recorded if it was not important.

And abstain does not only apply to eating:

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abstain: to refrain from consuming something or participating in certain activities


Faith is nothing without actions, and there are certain situations in life where either you put your faith in God, or prove to be faithless.

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False. You know jack **** about other religions, because you belong to a cult.

This doesn't mean anything. My ideas are different from mainstream (and with biblical reason). I do however perceive the same world that you and I live in. Only differently.

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They plain sects don't interact with average people (whom they often refer to as the English) because they realize that they have little in common with them, in terms of lifestyle and life experience. Not to keep their fiendish dream of a technology-free world from being spoiled from outside influence.


I have a lot of common with normal people of the world.

Sports: I like basket ball, soccer, baseball. I even play on my school's basketball team.
Video games: I like all types of video games
Relationships: I have many friends from all types of religions, even a friend who's family is Buddhist.
Books: I've read books from popular authors, Tolkien, Timothy Zahn, Paulo Coehlo, and others.
Party's and social gatherings: I go out a lot. I party a lot. I drink with my friends. We practically hang out every day after school.
I may not celebrate holiday's or birthdays, but there are enough events in life that don't coincide with these, a lot more in my own experience.

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They live in separate communities because that is how they wish to live. That's how you have to live in an agriculture-based society. That's how most of our ancestors lived before the industrial revolution.


While this all good, there is no biblical reason. It just sounds like they are over paranoid about people leaving their belief system. I wonder why...

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The very fact that you can post your ignorant babble is proof that Johos create stupid people.


Again, leave insults behind, and tell me what you consider "stupid" and I will show the rational, unbiased but biblical reasoning behind this belief that you look down upon. Its all in the good book.


EDIT: If you are going to reply, don't expect anything tonight. I am going to sleep and won't be on until tomorrow night. Good night, I have already went out of my way doing this post. Now I will be miserable tomorrow since I will miss an hour of sleep. I hope you are satisfied.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-09-12, 9:28 PM #38
I'm not going to argue with you any more. Mostly because you are a moron, and it is beneath me to argue with you. I can pick apart every point you make, but you'll respond with some partyline bull****. You belong to a bat**** crazy cult. You have no place to criticize other people's lives or beliefs when you yourself are scum of the earth.
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2007-09-12, 9:29 PM #39
Better watch out Stat.

SF_Gold might use his ninja gangsterlord boxer connections to rough you up because he believes in peace and love religion.
2007-09-12, 9:35 PM #40
I will add one thing, that's not completely ad hominem. The plain sects don't live the way they do out of a contrived misinterpretation from mistranslated scripture. They haven't picked one quote from scripture to determine everything they do, instead they believe plainness and humbleness are virtues that run throughout the whole of the Christianity.
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