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The People's Republic Salutes You! (Olympics)
2008-08-12, 9:48 PM #81
Originally posted by Spork:
Body hair creates drag and drag reduces performance. In races which are often won by hundreths of seconds the difference a full body suit makes can be the difference between winning and losing.

Body suits dont only take things like hair out of the equation, they also pull everything into a more aerodynamical position so that you move through the water/air more efficiently.


You'd think the extra weight would more than negate any gains made aerodynamically.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-08-12, 9:52 PM #82
From what I've heard, the body suits are ridiculously light and can be easily scratched from improper procedures of getting in them.
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2008-08-12, 9:56 PM #83
The champ doesn't wear a bodysuit so blah.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-08-12, 10:30 PM #84
Phelps just won his 10th and his place in history

with another world record.
一个大西瓜
2008-08-12, 10:54 PM #85
Actually he won his 11th more than an hour ago.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-08-12, 11:04 PM #86
Well the events for his 10th and 11th weren't very many hours apart haha but stupid west coast USA "live" coverage is not live at all >=[

Edit: holy crap, 6:58 for 200m relay. Beat the world record by 5 seconds. Wft.
一个大西瓜
2008-08-13, 5:12 AM #87
That relay was so awesome. Phelps had a decent lead over everyone, and the rest of the team just kept adding to that.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2008-08-13, 7:34 AM #88
Yes, I was referring to Alicia Sacramone, Onimusha. However, she choked at the balance beam last night with her fall (she cried). Everything went downhill after that with her teammates making more mistakes due to the increased pressure. Shawnee Johnson still did pretty good though.

So is Michael Phelps Aquaman or something?
2008-08-13, 7:47 AM #89
Originally posted by Cloud:
Yes, I was referring to Alicia Sacramone, Onimusha. However, she choked at the balance beam last night with her fall (she cried). Everything went downhill after that with her teammates making more mistakes due to the increased pressure. Shawnee Johnson still did pretty good though.


See, if she'd been naked she wouldn't have fallen off.

Quote:
So is Michael Phelps Aquaman or something?


Impossible. Aquaman is way too lame to be Michael Phelps.
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2008-08-13, 9:17 AM #90
Quote:
Yes, I was referring to Alicia Sacramone, Onimusha. However, she choked at the balance beam last night with her fall (she cried).

...really? The picture is her? She looks nothing like the picture!
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2008-08-13, 3:36 PM #91
Originally posted by Freelancer:
You'd think the extra weight would more than negate any gains made aerodynamically.


Weight is a much lower concern than hydrodynamics at those speeds, in water.
2008-08-13, 4:20 PM #92
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044258/Pictured-The-horrific-moment-Olympic-weightlifter-turns-elbow-front.html
2008-08-13, 4:47 PM #93
Cool. Someone from my hometown won a gold medal in some kind of bicycle race.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/26912249.html
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-08-13, 4:53 PM #94
It would be interesting to see studies about the effects of body hair on hydrodynamics. I have the feeling that it doesn't make that much of a difference. Olympic swimmers seem to not care too much in some cases. I think they're more worried about actual performance. v:)v
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2008-08-13, 5:10 PM #95


Just looking at those pictures make me cringe. I guess pushing yourself too hard does have its negative consequences.

Yeah that was Alicia. Somehow I had a feeling she was going to choke; she just had that very unsure countenance right before her performance. Well hopefully she'll bounce back with her individual performance on the pole along with her teammates.

By the way, she's 20 so no I didn't set a trap for you guys.
2008-08-13, 9:01 PM #96
Originally posted by Cloud:
Just looking at those pictures make me cringe. I guess pushing yourself too hard does have its negative consequences.


There was another, more horrific incident previously involving a weightlifter, his colon and squatting. Just google it. I dare not post pictures here.
2008-08-13, 9:05 PM #97
Snopes claims that is false

but then again...

http://xkcd.com/250/
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2008-08-13, 9:09 PM #98
It's possible. It was brought up earlier while discussing the elbow accident at work. I've seen a pic, but no accompanying article.
2008-08-14, 2:10 AM #99
Originally posted by Emon:
It would be interesting to see studies about the effects of body hair on hydrodynamics. I have the feeling that it doesn't make that much of a difference. Olympic swimmers seem to not care too much in some cases. I think they're more worried about actual performance. v:)v


Google tells me that hair is not a major factor in moving through water faster, but as I said before the primary function of the suits is to mould and hold your body into a more aerodynamic shape. If the water flows over your body more smoothly you move through the water more efficiently, meaning you use less energy and can swim faster for longer. Also Speedo claims that the materials used all their recent suits are slicker than human skin, so regardless of hair you'll use less energy wearing the suit.

For the record the US won the 4x100 relay gold over the French by 0.12 seconds. Every tenth of a second counts.
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2008-08-14, 9:24 AM #100
That's crap. They should either ban the suits or make everyone wear one, so that it's actually a 100% test of skill.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-08-14, 9:31 AM #101
Quote:
Yes, I was referring to Alicia Sacramone, Onimusha. However, she choked at the balance beam last night with her fall (she cried). Everything went downhill after that with her teammates making more mistakes due to the increased pressure. Shawnee Johnson still did pretty good though.


I know.. I felt bad for the poor thing.



And speaking of swimming whats up with Katie Hoff, she keeps disappointing. Every race shes lucky to grab bronze except for her one almost gold against the french (I think). Totally disappointing.
"They're everywhere, the little harlots."
-Martyn
2008-08-14, 10:10 AM #102
Originally posted by Freelancer:
That's crap. They should either ban the suits or make everyone wear one, so that it's actually a 100% test of skill.


While there isn't an Olympic-wide policy, I think there are standards within each event, requiring all swimmers to wear the same thing. If not, then it just comes down to favoring the intelligent.
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2008-08-14, 7:06 PM #103
Originally posted by IRG SithLord:
There was another, more horrific incident previously involving a weightlifter, his colon and squatting. Just google it. I dare not post pictures here.


I'm curious, but at the same time seeing I don't want to look up the picture. Can you describe it?

Roger Federer lost to James Blake today in tennis. Rather surprising that he would lose; I was actually rooting for him to win so there can be a rematch with Nadal.

The female individual gymnastic events are on tonight. I hope things will turn out well for the U.S. girls.
2008-08-14, 7:22 PM #104
Originally posted by Cloud:
I'm curious, but at the same time seeing I don't want to look up the picture. Can you describe it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectal_prolapse
2008-08-14, 10:21 PM #105
I think it's safe to say the women's individual gymnastics is rigged. Besides all the little things that even the commentators have been saying aren't right, a chinese gymnast just did her balance beam routine with multiple screw ups and the judges scored her as beating her previous personal best on the balance beam. This is why I hate things like gymnastics, diving, and figure skating that use subjective scoring systems. Even with the new scoring system that is supposed to bring more objectivity to the scores, it is still riddled with bias and corruption.

edit a half hour later: *rubs egg on face* My world view has now been totally shattered
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2008-08-15, 1:29 AM #106
HAHAHAH on the Channel 4 news immediately following the olympics the anchor just said "We'll have the latest on Osama bin Lad--- Ahh, uhh, I mean Barack Obama" hahahhaha
一个大西瓜
2008-08-15, 9:48 AM #107
give me the youtube
2008-08-15, 2:30 PM #108
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRk2yV080t4
一个大西瓜
2008-08-15, 4:02 PM #109
lets make a thread about that guy, can we?
2008-08-15, 4:51 PM #110
Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
I think it's safe to say the women's individual gymnastics is rigged. Besides all the little things that even the commentators have been saying aren't right, a chinese gymnast just did her balance beam routine with multiple screw ups and the judges scored her as beating her previous personal best on the balance beam. This is why I hate things like gymnastics, diving, and figure skating that use subjective scoring systems. Even with the new scoring system that is supposed to bring more objectivity to the scores, it is still riddled with bias and corruption.

edit a half hour later: *rubs egg on face* My world view has now been totally shattered



Tell me about it. Did you see that one Chinese girl (I think she's the one who fell) stumble upon jumping on the balance beam? One of the NBC commentators tried to restrain a laugh from seeing that. Another funny part was when the two commentators both went "OOOOHHHHHH!" from seeing the Chinese girl exhibit an obvious balance check.

At least Nastia won gold and Shawn won silver. There were a couple of events where they both made like this perfect landing and yet they received below average scores.

Oh and regarding the underaged Chinese gymnasts....

[quote=Ry Senkari of GameFAQs]
China's Olympic Director: *walks in*

Chris Hansen: Have a seat. Have a seat, right over there.

China's Olympic Director: *reluctantly sits down*

Chris Hansen: How old do you think your gymnasts are?

Olympic Director: They... told me they were 16.

Chris Hansen: Well, that's not what their birth certificates say. *points to something* Can you tell me what year that is?

Olympic Director: ...19... 19...uh...

Chris Hansen: 1995.

Olympic Director: Yeah.

Chris Hansen: So why, do you have, an olympic gymnast who's underage-

Olympic Director: But she told me she was 16!

Chris Hansen: But that's not... not what the transcript here says. Here, I'll read it.

ILuvBalanceBeemz95: hay so i can compete in olympics rite?

OfficialOlympicDirectorCHN: of course, it getz me soooo hot when we win medals

ILuvBalanceBeemz95: but wont u get in truble? im underaged

OfficialOlympicDirectorCHN: its totally ok, we can fake passports n stuff

Chris Hansen: *continues reading* "ooooh, beating the us in the oylmpic games really turnz me on. showing those americans whose political and economic system is superior by beating them in athltic competition iz like so totally hot"

Olympic Director: *looks uncomfortable*

Chris Hansen: *continues* "so, u wanna come over here, and then well go to the stadium and get on top of the united states and, u know, embarass them on the world stage", and then she says, "ooooohhhh i like that, ur so bad", and you say-

Olympic Director: I messed up... I messed up, I'm so stupid... I don't even know what we're doing at the Olympics. I mean, I don't normally do this. I mean, this is the first time I've ever... done something like this before.

Chris Hansen: So what would've happened... if those young girls would've competed on the balance beam event?

Olympic Director: I mean...

Chris Hansen: China probably would've gotten the gold medal, right?

Olympic Director: No, no-

Chris Hansen: Well, I just have something to tell you. I'm Chris Hansen, and I'm here with Dateline NBC, and we're doing a report on countries who use underage gymnasts in the Olympics.

*a bunch of guys come in with cameras, the Olympic director puts his head into his hands*

Chris Hansen: So if there's anything else you'd like to say... otherwise, you're free to leave.

Olympic Director: *gets up and heads toward the door, he goes outside*

*A bunch of IOC members run up with guns pointed at the Olympic Director.*

IOC Member: DOWN ON THE GROUND! NOW![/quote]
2008-08-15, 4:54 PM #111
Yea that was crazy. The Chinese team had far more obvious balance checks and yet their scores were still above what the Americans were getting
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2008-08-15, 8:47 PM #112
Phelps wins another by 100th of a second. Incredible.
2008-08-16, 12:11 AM #113
I didnt see the competition in question but I do know that in gymnastics you get points added for completed moves on a scale of difficulty and points deducted for mistakes on a scale of how bad they were. The Chinese girls might have made more mistakes but they presumably completed routines with a higher degree of difficulty, meaning despite their mistakes they still scored higher.
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2008-08-16, 12:19 AM #114
and also its in china
2008-08-16, 6:20 AM #115
Yeah, I thought the big thing was that China's routines have a higher start value since more difficult - so they can make more mistakes and still outscore the US
2008-08-16, 2:13 PM #116
Originally posted by IRG SithLord:
Phelps wins another by 100th of a second. Incredible.


Not so much, the other guy reckon he had won and glided into the finish, Phelps hammered into the thing.

It wasn't so much that he won that the other guy was cocky and lost.
nope.
2008-08-16, 8:45 PM #117
They both screwed up their finish, and in butterfly you can either glide in or go for another half-stroke when you're less than a full stroke away from the wall. Cavic went for the glide, Phelps went for the half-stroke...
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2008-08-16, 8:49 PM #118
Originally posted by Spork:
I didnt see the competition in question but I do know that in gymnastics you get points added for completed moves on a scale of difficulty and points deducted for mistakes on a scale of how bad they were. The Chinese girls might have made more mistakes but they presumably completed routines with a higher degree of difficulty, meaning despite their mistakes they still scored higher.


You're probably right for the most part. I'm no expert on gymnastics so I can't tell if the moves they make appear harder or not. To my untrain eyes, they appear about the same difficulty wise I guess. Then again, one Chinese girl stumbled simply by hopping on the balance beam as oppose to another girl who flipped on it.

In other news, the U.S. basketball team killed Spain. I was expecting a much closer game compared to the 30+point blow out by the U.S. Oh well, Spain gets what it deserves for making that racial remark toward the Chinese.
2008-08-16, 9:12 PM #119
Speaking of Phelps...8 for 8!
2008-08-16, 9:27 PM #120
he is swim god
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