Oh good, I'm not going mental.

Dude, you have no effing clue.

An ex-colleague of mine, really nice guy, a tad over-religious, but for the rest he seemed pretty stable. One day his girl leaves him after some 8 years of steady relationship. Next thing that happens is he gets duped by some sort of pyramid-game construction into which he invested all his savings. (Trusted people whom he had known for years, and it turned out he trusted the wrong guys after all) Ends up with thousands of debt and gets thrown out of his house. Is forced to live on the streets because his family lives abroad and his mother is mentally unstable and won't/can't help him.

It turns out that he's a manic and psychotic. (This sort of thing often only surfaces when people are under extreme stress) His over-religiousness gets the better of him and he's roaming the streets with delusions that it is somehow God's will that he has to go through all this.

In the end he's so psychotic and confused that he starts doing drugs. (Yeah, the hard stuff - his social network now only consists of the bums in the streets) The fact that he's doing drugs can actually be positively explained because in a way he's trying to doctor himself. And he was a guy who was always extremely anti-drugs. All of this happened in less than a year, and if you had known the guy beforehand, there was no way you would have believed anyone who predicted this would become of him.

Through my profession I've talked to a LOT of homeless people and many among them are victims of circumstances. The most problematic cases are always the people who have some sort of mental disorder and it becomes a REAL problem when they get in a tough situation.

If you have an addictive personality you're almost bound to get addicted to something, be it gambling, drinking or whatever.

Don't you judge people just like that because in your sheltered little perfect life everything seems so easy and people with problems just seem stupid. You haven't seen anything of the world kiddo.

I'm with Kirby. Have some freaking empathy. That goes for Temperamental too. Life can be very tough on people and we're not all so privileged to have things going our way all the time.

That's having your life messed up. Not messing your life up. There's a difference.

Get off your high horse.

He choose to be a druggie. **** him.

Well as long as he's choosing not to be a druggie, I don't think that's probably the best attitude.

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Not to mention he got suckered into giving all his money and then some away. If you have any financial sense you don't do that sort of thing.

You guys are being pricks.

they all have a point. Whether or not it's the 100% truth of the matter I ****ed up and made bad decisions. The fact that those decisions were a result of me wanting to shut out the world and not wanting to feel like **** in 6 hours or not doesn't matter. But I can't change the decisions I made, I can only try to clean up the situation I left behind. I'm not asking for empathy or sympathy, I got over that when I came clean cold turkey a month and a half ago, met my girlfriend and realized how badly I had ****ed up my life and the lives of those I care about. What you guys are seeing is honestly the tip of the iceberg. As for getting addicted, you always think you're smarter than everyone else before you, not to mention it took 6 months to get truly addicted. There are a lot of factors that sucked me in, but it doesn't discourage me from using drugs of a positive nature (hallucinagens and the occassional adderall to get through work) but i don't touch opiates or benzos or weed even (there's been some research on interactions between opiod receptors and cannibinoid receptors that makes me edgy about it) because they could all make me fall right back down. Anyways, what I'm here to say is that I did what I did because of my addiction, but I ask for no sympathy because I know I deserve none. I wasn't trying to scam him, but it worked out that way unfortunately (though ironically if he just hadn't responded to paypal he wouldve gotten the money back). I'm just explaining what happened now that I'm in a place mentally that I feel I can. Before I was too ashamed and felt too much self-loathing to try and pick up any pieces or offer any explanations.

If you're able to man up and admit what you did was wrong and attempt to change your ways then that's a step in the right direction and I applaud you for it.



You assume too much about mine and others' live's. Part of the reason I think the way I do and feel how I do about this and other things, like suicide for example, are because of what I have been through.

Why don't you just avoid things that divorce you from reality? The personality flaw that led you to addiction (as you had stated "wanting to shut out the world") is the real problem. What are you running from? Deal with your problems so that you don't want to take a hallucinagen. Make it so being with it is better than going on a trip.

The time, money, and risk of prosecution you run in those activities that you persist in is not worth your young and healthy life. You've realized that heroin was effecting your life. Awesome! Now investigate your other habits while you are in a reflective mood.

Also, I was gonna be a prick and berate you for being stupid, but coming to a forum that you can just easily blow off, and attempting to right wrongs and admit mistakes is impressive. Just don't fall back, because you may not be able to get up again.

Hallucinagens for me aren't about running away from life but being introspective about it, and maybe having a good time at shows. I'm not running around trying to score all day, not needing it to feel better, and only use them occassionally (every other week max). It's time for me to step away from my ego and analyze the pieces of wreckage that are my life and not be angry or sad or insert emotion about how it worked out and see how things might end up working out.

Let's just say those who advocate(d) MDMA and LSD for therapy had a point.

But I digress.

Did Buck ever get his money back?

Did Yoshi ever join the Air Force?

Did Tibby ever get his parables straight?

I gots to know!

Holy crap thread necro I actually want to see!

Tune in next week to find out!

Yes.

I did not get my money back. Paypal agreed though to split the 360 dollar difference. It was quite a lengthy battle with the collections agency, but Paypal finally caved a little bit and decided wasn't worth fighting longer for.

Also for those who do care, Yoshi continues to be a heroine addict who now is actually a servant for some whore who he "married" or something just cuz she has a heroine hook up. He didn't join the Air Force. Someone messaged me on here updating me on how much of an ******* he was/continues to be. Here are some sweet excerpts:

"He was still a virgin, and I could tell my sex life was starting to eat away at him. I came home one day from work early, his computer was out in the living room, and he still had an IM up talking about how many girls I was with, and this and that. Basically loathing me because I was living an eventful life as a student, and he was rotting away working a deadbeat job at Gamestop and masturbating to DoDA I think its called. EVERYDAY. I mean, this sad son of a ***** would sit there all hours playing this same ****. Pathetic."

"So, he picks another fight, I decided to move out, while he was screaming I'm kicking you out. After paying all my bills on time the entire time, he takes the storage room key off my keychain while I was asleep. Locking all of my stuff hostage, scared he wouldnt get his last weeks rent. I never told him I wasn't paying, no threatening, nothing. This is just how big of a ***** he was being. So I finally get the hell out of there. "

"So, while I got on suboxone, he continued selling/doing dope and MDMA. Trying to be cool, trying to turn himself into something he wasn't. He finally managed to get laid, aka USED, by a nasty junkie *****. That fell through so he found another. LOL. You know why shes with him? He was exactly right, all of his money goes to keeping her happy. She lives a 6 hr drive from him, so she can leech his money, get ****ed up off his drugs, and actually **** something worth looking at on the side. "

"This is seriously some sad **** folks. None of it is false, but it does have an aggressive tone to it, because at one time Chris was a respectable person. He was a good person. But if ANY of you would have experienced living with the goon, and treated like **** out of his jealousy, you would be a bit pissed too.

So now a year later, hes been kicked out of every place hes lived, hes supporting a girl thats using the **** out of him (atleast hes getting laid?), and hes jobless, prolly TRUELY addicted by now. But I can tell you people honestly, he wanted to be. I know that sounds silly, but if you knew how hard this kid tried to fit in and be considered "cool" you would understand."

Oh well.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Is he banned? He should come back.

I can't help feel sorry for the guy. Its just so pathetic.

eh :/

No great surprise.


..should be yoshi's epitaph.

I dont feel sorry for druggies. I feel sorry for the people in their lives.

Yoshi is a stupid ****.

So much for Chris Bowman.

I really feel sorry for the guy.

He was my rival here for the longest time. It's just so.. weird that he chose this. Yoshi, if yer out there, I hope you find what you're looking for.

On one hand, I feel sorry that he was dealt a bad hand in life; on the other hand, I don't feel bad because he willingly made it worse for himself. Lots of people get dealt a rough hand but manage to make it out OK. This is all based on the limited knowledge I have of his situation. I don't know him personally, or know much of his background and upbringing.

I'm leaning more toward the "it's his own fault, no sympathy" mindset, but I certainly understand the other side.

That's truly horrible, heroin will eat your soul right out of you Stupid ass

Looks like he's ****ed up his life real good. I suppose it would require some kind of intervention to break this cycle of bad decisions that he keeps up.

At this point I can only hope he magically comes to his senses and doesn't end up dead in a ditch or something.

Also, glad to hear about Paypal giving in for buck.

He's the same moron who thinks Bud Light is the best beer out there because it "varies in alcohol content depending on whether you buy it at a liquor store or a gas station. and it can be up to 10% abv"

I wonder if he's a moderate drinker.

Poor yoshi

Let's all pitch in and buy him his 'final' dose of heroine. I mean, may as well go out flyin high right? right????

Something tells me $350 is the right amount.

It's really really sad. Some of you people are really harsh. Sure, it's easy to say it's his own fault, but I really do hope he'll be able to put this behind him. Even though he obviously has some personality flaw, he seemed intelligent enough.

Glad you got some of the money back.

Well said, this is exactly how I feel.

Sucks

So much time has passed since he was active so I don't actually feel anything.

I'd say "Godspeed" but you know, eh, sp- sorry

I liked Yoshi for all his flaws, and it's really disheartening to hear this. I really hope he figures things out. I'm kind of down now after rereading this thread.

At least an alcoholic can be entertaining...on the internet anyway.

SO WHY ISN'T DALF ENTERTAINING?