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Who provides the best reporting?
2010-08-07, 10:34 PM #1
Inspired by the discussion in some other thread about how sucky reporting has gotten (although I think it mostly just always has sucked for one reason or another) I thought I would present this question: What organization has the best reporting? This should be based on good writing, accurate and verified information, lack of bias, and significance of subject matter. For example, while you may think PC Gamer is unbiased, accurate, and well-written, it is not really significant reporting. ;) Fox may be..well...nevermind about Fox (LOL topical).

I would post a poll, but I wouldn't know where to start.
Warhead[97]
2010-08-07, 10:42 PM #2
It depends on what, exactly, but for general world news, the Christian Science Monitor.
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2010-08-07, 10:46 PM #3
Originally posted by Emon:
It depends on what, exactly, but for general world news, the Christian Science Monitor.
The Christian Science Monitor is famous for avoiding sensationalism. And after one of their freelancers was abducted in Iraq, they worked really hard to get her released and even hired her as a full-time writer to make sure she had benefits; they have a major moral and morale advantage over companies like Fox that pretty much leave their freelancers twisting in the wind, and it shows in the writing.
2010-08-07, 10:48 PM #4
I guess I should have specified. Yeah, I'm referring to general world news, not specific segments (No regional or discipline-specific kinds of publications).
Warhead[97]
2010-08-07, 11:42 PM #5
Probably something like sky news, or ABC's (australia) news programs.
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2010-08-08, 3:19 AM #6
Fox News provides the best news coverage but they also have the most informative opinion shows (The O'Reilly Factor, Rush Limbaugh Show etc).
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-08-08, 5:54 AM #7
National Public Radio in the US seems to do pretty well. They're my preferred new source at this point. Whenever they report on some stupid celebrity "story" they get hell for it from the listeners.
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2010-08-08, 7:01 AM #8
My only exposure to Aljazeera is their English site: http://english.aljazeera.net/ but I find that they do a great job covering world news.
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2010-08-08, 9:42 AM #9
Originally posted by alpha1:
Probably something like sky news, or ABC's (australia) news programs.


Sky News sucks massive donkey balls. Rupert Murdoch etc.

BBC is pretty good, but not perfect. When it covers general news, the FT is pretty darn tootin'.

(Financial Times)
2010-08-08, 11:10 AM #10
I typically get my news from the BBC, NPR & Reuters websites. They seem to focus more on issues concern me than many other sources. I frequent Politico & Politifact also. I've honestly been making an attempt to read less news because ignorance is bliss.
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2010-08-08, 2:14 PM #11
Originally posted by alpha1:
Probably something like sky news, or ABC's (australia) news programs.

I don't know what Sky News is like in Oz, but in britland it's horse****.

The BBC is pretty good but I get my news from The Guardian because it's well written and I'm a big leftie! :neckbeard:
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2010-08-08, 2:19 PM #12
I get most of my news from Massassi.

Colbert and Stewart fill in the gaps a little, when I can be bothered to watch a news program.
2010-08-08, 5:50 PM #13
Originally posted by llibja:
My only exposure to Aljazeera is their English site: http://english.aljazeera.net/ but I find that they do a great job covering world news.


Headline news: Russian dies in Finnish sauna championship.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/08/201088142613544983.html
幻術
2010-08-08, 6:40 PM #14
Originally posted by Emon:
It depends on what, exactly, but for general world news, the Christian Science Monitor.

Okay I need some help here, Christian Science Monitor. I always though based on the title that this was published by the/a church and monitored science according to Christian ideals. But apparently I am dead wrong and the Wiki article, as well as their site, says so. You seem to love them so give some help with understanding what is going on here.
2010-08-08, 7:43 PM #15
...yeah read the wikipedia page, right? It's just a paper run by the Church of Christian Science.
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2010-08-08, 7:45 PM #16
Which says that if you pray hard enough you can be cured of anything because death and disease aren't in gods plan.
Excuse me if I think they don't provide unbiased reporting.
2010-08-08, 7:55 PM #17
Originally posted by Tibby:
Which says that if you pray hard enough you can be cured of anything because death and disease aren't in gods plan.
Excuse me if I think they don't provide unbiased reporting.
Literally nobody cares about your opinion about anything and this is why.
2010-08-08, 7:56 PM #18
Sure aren't helping. If you like them so much then tell me why I'm wrong.
2010-08-08, 8:05 PM #19
Originally posted by Tibby:
Okay I need some help here, Christian Science Monitor. I always though based on the title that this was published by the/a church and monitored science according to Christian ideals. But apparently I am dead wrong and the Wiki article, as well as their site, says so. You seem to love them so give some help with understanding what is going on here.


First of all, I'll confirm that the Christian Science Monitor is a really excellent paper. It was founded by the same woman (Mary Eddy) who founded the Church of Christ, Scientist, but not as a propaganda sheet, and it was meant from the start to be an antidote to news driven by scandal and sensationalism. Some of those involved in the creation of the paper advised against including "Christian Science" in the name, but Eddy insisted, and I think the Christian Science Monitor is better for it. It's a name that forces reporters to avoid bias as carefully as possible, because they know that if they don't, they'll be written off by most readers as part of a "religious publication."
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2010-08-08, 8:09 PM #20
Originally posted by Tibby:
Which says that if you pray hard enough you can be cured of anything because death and disease aren't in gods plan.
Excuse me if I think they don't provide unbiased reporting.

Translation: "I have a bunch of preconceptions that I extend to an entire organization based ENTIRELY upon the name because I'm too lazy to actually do research."
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2010-08-08, 8:10 PM #21
Originally posted by Tibby:
Sure aren't helping. If you like them so much then tell me why I'm wrong.
I subjectively believe you are wrong because I enjoy reading the Christian Science Monitor and I am satisfied that the information I receive is accurate and not biased in a way that offends me.

I objectively believe you are wrong because your opinion is not logical. Your opinion is based on argumentum ad hominem (specifically an association fallacy, or an appeal to motive.)

Congratulations. You are wrong in every way imaginable.
2010-08-08, 8:33 PM #22
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2010-08-08, 8:52 PM #23
Originally posted by Tibby:
Which says that if you pray hard enough you can be cured of anything because death and disease aren't in gods plan.
Excuse me if I think they don't provide unbiased reporting.


Does the paper say that or just the company that funds it? And yes, there's a difference, bigger than you seem to think.
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2010-08-08, 8:59 PM #24
Originally posted by Bobbert:
National Public Radio in the US seems to do pretty well. They're my preferred new source at this point. Whenever they report on some stupid celebrity "story" they get hell for it from the listeners.


I listen to a lot of NPR, as well, but their listeners also complain if they present a right-wing opinion or have a right-wing expert guest. It's not fair to say that their stories have an extreme liberal bias (they certainly lean towards the left on most issues), but their listeners do.
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2010-08-08, 11:15 PM #25
Originally posted by Koobie:
Headline news: Russian dies in Finnish sauna championship.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/08/201088142613544983.html


DEAD HEAT. <_<
2010-08-09, 7:05 PM #26
I suppose that I do tend to stay away from the big news sources (e.g: CNN) when I'm interested in war coverage. I tend to rely more on sources outside of my country to try & avoid much of the propaganda (you'd think that we'd question WMDs a bit more so long after the Tonkin Gulf fiasco).
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2010-08-10, 9:58 AM #27
For tech news I usually go to engadget.
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2010-08-11, 4:18 AM #28
Originally posted by Baconfish:
The BBC is pretty good but I get my news from The Guardian because it's well written and I'm a big leftie! :neckbeard:


This.
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2010-08-11, 4:45 AM #29
Al Jazeera for international, NPR for national.
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2010-08-11, 6:19 AM #30
I thought Al-Jazeera was for trrsts
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-08-11, 10:29 AM #31
We're the biased ones, the terrorists see it how it is.
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2010-08-11, 10:32 AM #32
I'm glad I started this thread, because I would never have thought of al jazeera. But I guess it is a smart way to get away from our political party bias.
Warhead[97]
2010-08-11, 12:42 PM #33
I trust Glenn Beck for my news because the truth is good no matter how bad it hurts...
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2010-08-11, 6:24 PM #34
News organizations tend to be localized at some level. So-called "world news organizations" are terribly watered down (BBC, AP, Reuters, etc.).

Originally posted by Krokodile:
Fox News provides the best news coverage but they also have the most informative opinion shows (The O'Reilly Factor, Rush Limbaugh Show etc).


Rush Limbaugh is not associated with Fox News.
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2010-08-11, 6:27 PM #35
I just knew the one person that would take Kroko seriously would be Wookie
You were a little late to the party Wookie, but I knew you'd get there
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2010-08-11, 7:32 PM #36
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Rush Limbaugh is not associated with Fox News.


I bet Fox News told you that.
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2010-08-11, 10:13 PM #37
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
I bet Fox News told you that.


Um, sure, yeah.

Originally posted by Deadman:
I just knew the one person that would take Kroko seriously would be Wookie
You were a little late to the party Wookie, but I knew you'd get there


Sorry. Had more important things to do. I guess I must have missed associating Limbaugh with Fox News was a joke. It would be pretty cool if he did get an FNC program just to see him on TV again but FNC is already overwhelmingly at the top of the ratings and really doesn't have room for another top notch commentator. They already have Beck on at a terrible time. I would like it if they bumped Hannity to put the Beck show on in prime time but that isn't likely to happen.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2010-08-12, 6:10 AM #38
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Um, sure, yeah.



Sorry. Had more important things to do. I guess I must have missed associating Limbaugh with Fox News was a joke. It would be pretty cool if he did get an FNC program just to see him on TV again but FNC is already overwhelmingly at the top of the ratings and really doesn't have room for another top notch commentator. They already have Beck on at a terrible time. I would like it if they bumped Hannity to put the Beck show on in prime time but that isn't likely to happen.


If by "another top-notch commentator" you mean "another unbondable drug addict"
2010-08-12, 6:37 AM #39
Fox News is overwhelmingly at the top of the ratings because the United States is overwhelmingly populated with morons.
>>untie shoes
2010-08-12, 9:52 AM #40
That's an interesting point but an alarming conclusion to reach. Afterall, a minority of Americans watch Fox News. In order to reach that conclusion I would think that you would need to use the results of some sort of recent national election or something.
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