Fox dominates the ratings because they have the highest-rated cable news* programs. That still only means they have a simple plurality among primetime cable TV viewers, which says zilch about the intelligence of the average American. Somewhere between 0.6% and 1% of the American population watches Fox News.

Fox viewers trust their network more than the viewers of other networks. Which still doesn't say anything about the intelligence of the average American, but it does say something about the intelligence of 1% of them.

* For legal reasons Fox News does not describe their pundit shows, e.g. Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, as news programs. However, Nielsen rates them in the same category as news, so Fox has the top 13 shows in cable news. This is largely due to their viewers' voracious appetites for vaguely-worded assassination threats and racist jokes.

Fox News is the highest rated cable news thing in America? But don't they spend all their time complaining about how the media has a liberal bias?

Are you trying to say that America is full of intelligent people?

If you think that's hypocritical you should watch Beck, you'll be blown away,
But leave your brain at the door, lest it melts.

Yeah, Glenn Beck is hilariously bad. I watched his show a few weeks ago and he spent the entire time talking about how black people are going to take over America and put the whites into concentration camps.

If Beck said it must be true!

Of course! It's the truth, no matter how bad it hurts!

Then can someone finally tell me what the hell a Devil's Haircut is?

It's the haircut you have.

I've got a Devil's Haircut, in my mind.

Only someplace like this would such over the top sarcasm go completely unnoticed other than to get a positive response from Tibby.

What are you even talking about?

He's trying to say that Glenn Beck's racism is sarcastic.


Even though it's not, and Wookie06's isn't either.

He literally spent the entire show talking about black people taking over America and putting white people in camps. It wasn't sarcasm. He was just being a racist *******. It wasn't sarcasm when he said Obama hates white people either. It was racist.

I'm not sure what you're referring to as sarcastic, but I hope you realize Tibby was being sarcastic...

It's entirely possible that you've misunderstood everything in this thread.

That's what I'm thinking, yeah

I gave Anthony the benefit of the doubt that he was being sarcastic rather than lying or intentionally misrepresenting Beck's views.

It's a wonder people like Glenn Beck don't get shot more.

I WATCH FOX NEWS BECAUSE FOX NEWS SAYS THAT THEY'RE FAIR AND BALANCED. ITS GOTTA BE TRUE BECAUSE ITS FOX NEWS AND THEY'RE FAIR AND BALANCED.

Patriots are shot everyday for various reasons. He probably has a significant security detail.

Glenn Beck is a patriot for encouraging hate and spreading misinformation to idiots?

He does neither. You're a fool. Or a tool. Or both.

Wookie, do you even listen to what he says?

Actually, don't bother answering that, I already know you do.

I've been listening to Beck for about three years now. His radio show is generally more entertaining that his TV show because he has much more time to focus on comedy. It took me awhile to get into his current format he conducts his show in but it is genuinely educational and gives him the forum to really showcase his astounding intellect. I understand that people like Jon`C simply revert to the proven tactic of calling people like him stupid bigots because they can't compete in the arena of ideas. Radical Progressivism is perennially unpopular in the US, after all. I'm somewhat surprised by Anthony's posts although I probably shouldn't be. He routinely makes asinine statements of "fact" regarding the military as if they're absolutely true and he clearly believes them all.

It's amazing that Tibby was filleted earlier for making assumptions of a media organization that he doesn't pay attention to but that is exactly what the most vocally critical of Fox News and conservative talk radio figures such as Limbaugh and Beck routinely do here.

hello strawman

Look, I didn't get into this thread to defend anyone or anything and I'm going to refrain from getting further dragged into that. I only pointed out that the estimable Mr. Limbaugh is not associated with Fox News.

It's unfortunate that PolitiFact hasn't researched more of his claims, but it's quite clear from what they have done, that Mr. Beck has issues w/ the truth, to say the least. I've personally researched a ton of claims that Mr. Beck has made in the past, mostly revolving around his historical revisionism, as well as those of his friends (e.g: David Barton). I really don't think that anyone that likes this guy for anything more than entertainment (they know he's a fraud & simply don't care) has an ounce of intellectual curiosity. Beck, Coulter, Limbaugh & Palin (amongst others) are able to capitalize on the emotions of people that are incapable or unwilling to see past the walls of that little box that they're in. It's very similar to what we see amongst religious fundamentalists.

You have, I think, have exposed yourself as a guy who over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for black people or black culture. I don't know what it is.

Of course you don't know what it is. It doesn't exist and you can't find any example on this forum that might back up your preposterous rhetoric. You should stick to the safer course of action and simply call me a racist while providing absolutely no evidence on the matter.

wow wookie, given your idolatry of mister glenn beck i would have thought you would immediately recognize one of his quotes.

now my personal opinion of this is that any and all fox "news" reporters and their worshipers are certifiably insane and should be locked up for their idiocy.

Fox News scares me.

Even if Jon`C only meant to paraphrase and redirect those words that were featured in the funny video Mentat posted I don't see how the original comment by Beck could be considered racist. Pointing out Barrack Hoover Obama's racism doesn't make Beck a racist. A realist maybe but certainly not a racist.

edit - I also want to comment that it is pretty insane to overly criticize Fox News' reporting as their straight news coverage is top notch. Disliking the commentators is another thing but simply dismissing them as insane or racist rather than debate their valid and popular opinions demeans those of you that would do so.

Middle-aged poor Republican with a pedostache trying to convince a Star Wars fan forum that he and Glenn Beck aren't racists.

It has been routinely pointed out that I don't actually substantiate any arguments here so I'm not sure it can be said that I'm trying to convince anyone that I'm not a racist (and I already said I didn't come into this thread to defend any public figures or Fox News). I'm also not going to defend against a racism charge. All you would have to do is quote the evidence to my overt racism, if it exists. Should be easy to find in my over 47 hundred posts.

Wookie just persists in delusion because it's comforting. He's admitted that he never challenges his own beliefs, insisting that it's a "character flaw."

Because you can't. Because all your thoughts are complete rubbish and can't be backed up because even you don't understand them.

Also, backpedal.

Your whole "backpedal" thing is so old now. I mean, really, what is the point?

So far as I can recall there is only one post that I might even "backpedal" from if I was ever called on it but I never have been (it regarded evolution).

I can, and will, back up any and every post I've ever made. Constitutional conservatism might be considered rubbish by the likes of you but not by a great many intellectuals. When people like you start to realize that your simple insults of those you disagree with are no longer sufficient to win the debate, then maybe we can actually have one.