I thought it would be interesting to conduct a private poll considering the recent poll that has been discussed for the last several days in the news media. I have no ulterior motives for starting the topic and I think there are a number of directions this thread can take.

By the way, I intentionally limited the poll options to more closely mirror the recent poll discussed in the media.

El Presidente is clearly a Luciferian priest.

Where's the "I don't care and/or don't think it's important" option

I believe he's made it clear on multiple occasions that he's a Christian with some Muslim heritage (which is irrelevant).

Christian.

I think he's a burger.

I would have included that but I didn't want to skew the results so severely. I think most of us would check that we don't care or think it is important. However, even if we have that state of mind, we have probably have an opinion. Those that don't actually have an opinion should probably use the third option or simply refrain from voting.

Kwanzaa?

Pastafarian?

Considering he's expressed his views on this multiple times, and that he has a Christian reverend for a mentor, I'm not sure why this confuses people other than having Hussein as a middle name and his father being a Muslim, but those things would probably only confuse someone who's kind of stupid.

By the way, the notion that he's trying to hide his true religion is one of the dumbest Obama-related claims I've heard. If he were true to Islam, you think it's something he would publically deny? I'm pretty sure that goes against the teachings of both Islam and Christianity. He would basically be publically denying prophet Mohammed. He's either Christian or at the "worst" he doesn't care either way, because you have to be Christian to win the presidential election in America anyway.

Well, since I haven’ yet offered an opinion on the topic, here we go. I think I have to vote that I don’t know and let me explain.

My guess is that the President in his own mind doesn’t know. I think, in his mind, he might lie somewhere between being a Christian and [something] else. Whether that something is another religion or undecided, I’m not sure. My gut feeling is that he isn’t a Muslim. If he were, I would think he would have a harder time concealing it. But then I got to thinking, we’re expected to believe he is a Christian, although he doesn’t seem to be a “practicing” Christian. Could it be that he is a non-practicing Muslim? Sure, I guess it could be but it seems a little far fetched.

Now, Obama has told us that Jeremy Wright is his spiritual mentor. He attended the church for two decades. From what I’ve heard of Wright and Black Liberation Theology, it doesn’t seem very Christian but I’m not theological expert. I do wonder, though, how Wright and his church could have been such an important part of his life when it seems he never heard any of his sermons. Was Obama’s association with the church genuine or was it a political calculation of sorts? I don’t know.

So, here we are. I don’t know what his religion is and I also don’t really care (normally*) but why don’t I know? Is it because I’m a tinfoil hat Republican? I would argue, no, it is because I think the President doesn’t really know.

* I say "normally" because if the President is concealing some theological belief then I do care. I don’t necessarily care what you are, but don’t lie about it.

How often is the president really the religion he claims to be?

Don't you think that at least a handful of the guys in recent memory have been just claiming Christianity to keep godbotherers off their backs? I'm not saying none of them are Christians, so to speak, I'm just saying they couldn't have all been as devout as they lead us to believe.

Well, recent memory for me goes back much farther than yours. I have no reason to doubt Jimmy Carter's, Ronald Reagan's, George H.W. Bush's, William Clinton's, or George W. Bush's faith. Again, I don't really care but it never really seemed to be doubtful.

I believe the President's religion is irrelevant. Maybe his beliefs do not strictly conform to a predefined standard. If he wants to keep his beliefs private, I respect that.

Yes, but then why is it doubtful when it comes to Obama?

EDIT: Not saying you really have doubts about whether he's telling the truth, but it makes me concerned for the American public when many of them seem to see some reason to believe he's a Muslim, when there doesn't seem to be any real justification for these claims.

Yes, I agree. In this case it would have been better for him to keep them a private matter. Politically speaking, that is.

BARACK OBAMA IS A SECRET MUSLIM BECAUSE FOX NEWS TOLD ME HE IS.

The President's own statements and actions, I would say. He seem critical of Christians at times and seems to give glowing praise of Islam at others. Mind you, I'm not making any statement about his actions, just that some are confused by them.

I've been getting such a kick out of Fox News' coverage of the poll. Every time I have watched them report on it they seem to be falling all over themselves to point out the 20% of the population incorrectly believe the President to be a Muslim.

Yeah but being critical of Christians who are acting like ********s and defending Muslims who are doing nothing wrong is kind of justified... As long as that's the case.

I have doubts about whether he is christian or not. That isn't to say that I think he is a secret muslim. I just know that if he wasn't raised christian, it's much less likely that he is now. What he says or does has little bearing on the truth...he's a politician. For all I know he's as atheistic as I am up there in his head, but he can never say that.

The president has no strong commitment to any particular religion, though he does go to popular services to give the appearance of religious involvement.

You talking about the current one or presidents overall?

Most of them, current included.

A few, GWB for example, are/were actually committed to their religion on a daily basis, not just as a show. Most of the rest of them are just in it for appearances.

I have absolutely no idea but I find it weird that the media would give a crap. When it comes to elections and whatnot over here nobody really cares unless you're some sort of extremist nut.

He's certainly never going around judging people and talking about how hateful Jesus is, so he's a better Christian than most Fox News fans. He also says he's a Christian, which is as much proof anybody else has.

um, he goes to church people. /facepalm

I don't think that anyone can be certain of anyone else's religion & that obviously includes the president so there's really only 1 way to vote. I personally like to think that someone w/ his education (e.g: constitutional law) would be a secular (he's admittedly a secularist) humanist & that he's merely pandering to the majority (the religious) like so many politicians before him (e.g: Thomas Jefferson). I don't personally care about his religion or lack thereof, who sucks his cock or anything else that should be a personal matter. As long as he's a secularist I could care less.

Sure, but he also swore to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

That's the point I was trying to get across. It seems like the vast majority of politicians in this country are just claiming to be religious to get votes.

So now you're expanding your originally flawed argument to all politicians?

And I'm sure said document is still safe and sound behind 2 inches of bulletproof glass.

I don't know.

I don't care.

It doesn't matter anyway.

yeah.

because intelligence and education is what made you an atheist.

Clearly I'm in FaceBook mode, 'cuz I kept wanting to click the "like" button multiple times on this.

It's so simple, and so true. I will say it: if you think Barack Obama is a Muslim, you are truly ignorant. It's got nothing to do with his politics or whether or not he likes American football (which he apparently does). But the dude's not a Muslim (not that I'd care if he was). I don't understand how so many people can still not get that. Well, I canget it - we live in a mediocre society that takes what it's fed and can't fend for itself physically or intellectually. Damn, it's frustrating.

And this is different from the last 74321687321 years of recorded history how? People act like this is a new phenomenon.

I hope I've made it clear that I'm not making any arguments as to what his religion is and that I couldn't care less (previous asterisk excepted). I do think it's interesting how so many of us feel the need to point out that we don't care. The thing is, I think, is that it is the President that is feeding people this uncertainty. I mean, the best evidence that the President is a Christian is that he attended a church for twenty years but, apparently, never heard any of the sermons. The best evidence that he is not a Muslim is that he has been chowing down on fast food during the holy period of Ramadan. So, it seems, the evidence might suggest that he is either a really bad Christian or a really bad Muslim. Of course that is tongue in cheek but my point remains that it is he that is feeding this misconception.

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