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Bin Laden is Bin Deaden.
2011-05-03, 6:59 PM #161
Originally posted by Alan:
I feel the same way about this as I felt about 9/11 at the time: "Wait, what happened? Oh. Well, okay."

It's not that I don't care, even though I probably don't care as much as everyone else. It's just that even in the big picture, this doesn't really effect me directly.

This is wrong.

If you think 9/11 had no effect on you, then you need to take a look at your gasoline bill for the past ten years, and wonder where your neighbor with the US Marines flag out front has gone, and consider why flight security is such a ***** these days.

People who assume things going on elsewhere in the world have no affect on them are fools. You're a fool, Alan. Someone told me that the Japanese earthquake didn't matter because it happened so far away, and that it wouldn't affect them or me. But it did. It affected me personally. My checking account was almost overdrawn because a package coming out of Japan got split into two shipments (one for the day of, one for a nebulous ~afterward~ that turned out to be a couple days later), meaning two shipping charges. Luckily, I shifted a bit from my savings to make up the difference, or otherwise an earthquake in Asia would have meant me losing 32 dollars in overdraft fees.

The entire world is tightly woven together, intertwined in ways that even the biggest budgeted crime movie can't properly illustrate. Rebels blow up the largest oil refinery in Libya, the price of gas goes up in Washington. Drug cartel violence increases in Mexico, American jobs are gobbled up by Mexicans fleeing the violence. The head and rallying figure of the most powerful terrorist organization in the world is killed by American soldiers... that's gonna have repercussions, and we're gonna be feeling it for another ten years.

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2011-05-03, 7:26 PM #162
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
You know, the moment is kind of lost on me after about a decade of poking in the wrong holes, not to mention the collateral damage.

And where's the proof? Not that I'm expecting old Bin to give a press conference tomorrow, but it's a damn weird story.

I mean, great story about building a full-scale copy of the house for the special ops to train in and all that, but it sounds like damn good propaganda. I'm old enough to remember the first Gulf War, and this really reminded me of how we saw all this 'smart bomb' camera footage in full rotation on CNN, only to learn after the war was over that it hadn't been as clean as they said at all.


It may be 2011, but I don't think it's beyond unreasonable for the white house to withhold the pictures. I know that we all expect them to tweet it, facebook it, mapquest it, **** it and ihop it immediately because our attention spans are so short. It's not hard to imagine that releasing the images will (eventually) elicit negative reactions from the middle east.
2011-05-03, 7:34 PM #163
Seems sort of pointless when they could have just dropped a bomb on him. Or. Done nothing.

At any rate, I fail to see how someone dieing is good news, ever.
2011-05-03, 7:49 PM #164
It's not like anything is going to change now anyway.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2011-05-03, 7:59 PM #165
Originally posted by JM:
Seems sort of pointless when they could have just dropped a bomb on him. Or. Done nothing.

At any rate, I fail to see how someone dieing is good news, ever.


I think some one whom is obsessed with trying to kill americans dying is kinda good news, thats just me. I work at the airport where one one the bombers flew out of..and we make less money because of the security changes..so...safer country...because some douche that ruined my chance to make more money....yup...good news, sorry.
2011-05-03, 8:00 PM #166
Originally posted by JM:
At any rate, I fail to see how someone dieing is good news, ever.


Really? I can imagine how the world would be benefited if certain people went away forever.
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2011-05-03, 8:05 PM #167
guys, i know the identity of the shooter.
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2011-05-03, 8:10 PM #168
**** ya john casey
2011-05-03, 8:54 PM #169
Originally posted by JM:
Seems sort of pointless when they could have just dropped a bomb on him. Or. Done nothing.

At any rate, I fail to see how someone dieing is good news, ever.


Drop a bomb leaving no evidence to show the Pakistani authorities. Right.

Using DEVGRU (allegedly) for direct action was the best call the president could have made in the situation. If he was wrong, it would have been much easier to deny, and since he was right, they had proof, if not to show us, at least to show to Pakistani authorities.

The situation had no better outcome. Capturing him, while in the picture, would have been a nightmare. Doing nothing would be a slap in the face to all of the professionals who have worked to capture him.

Your lack of consideration for the situation is really showing here.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-05-03, 9:06 PM #170
But in better news...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/the-rock-osama-bin-laden-death_n_856381.html
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-05-04, 6:10 AM #171
Originally posted by Spook:
Drop a bomb leaving no evidence to show the Pakistani authorities. Right.

Not to mention the fact that he wasn't the only one in the house &/or in the area. I've been traveling a lot so I'm not entirely up-to-date but my understanding is that there were women & children inside as well. Every single time that we drop a bomb & kill bystanders we create the potential for animosity (an understatement) from families & friends of those victims. I think that's probably a negative thing if we want these people to be on our "side". I think that Obama & his administration probably considered this possibility.
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2011-05-04, 7:08 AM #172
They confirmed he was unarmed when they shot him.
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2011-05-04, 8:00 AM #173
Originally posted by JM:
Seems sort of pointless when they could have just dropped a bomb on him. Or. Done nothing.

At any rate, I fail to see how someone dieing is good news, ever.


There were children on the premises. I think you can agree that dropping a bomb would have been a terrible idea. Also dropping a bomb would have destroyed the loads of intel they found.

Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
They confirmed he was unarmed when they shot him.


Okay? The soldiers walked into a compound full of people that were ready to shoot back or worse. They storm a room and he resists he's most likely going to get shot. Also didn't they identify him after they shot?
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2011-05-04, 8:55 AM #174
This may cast me in a negative light, but i literally do not care that he was unarmed. Killed on sight and buried at sea was probably the best way to deal with him..... Commence the horrified squealings.
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2011-05-04, 10:11 AM #175
I was going to post a nice long reply to all the things that have been said, but I watched the Daily Show the other night and seriously Jon Stewart had a breif monologue which described it way better than I ever could have. Colbert had a brilliant closer.

I can't find an exact transcript of everything he said but here's a small piece:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-stewart-rejoices-osama-bin-184311

Quote:
I am way too close to this whole episode to be rational about this in any way, shape or form. Last night was a good night for me. And not just for New York, or D.C., or America, but for human people. The face of the Arab world in America’s eyes, for too long, has been bin Laden. And now, it is not. Now, the face is only the young people in Egypt, and Tunisia, and all the Middle Eastern countries… (where) freedom rises up, al Qaeda’s opportunity is gone. Al Qaeda’s opportunity is gone.

For the last ten years, al Qaeda had the world’s attention. They apparently wanted an ideology competition. And for all our rights and wrongs, and the world’s rights and wrongs, all al Qaeda seems to have come up with is, ‘Uhhhh, all right, we killed some Americans. How ‘bout killing some British people? Maybe bombing Yemen? Shoe bomb doesn’t work? How ‘bout an underwear bomb?’ They have nothing.



Stephen Colbert's gushing literally made me almost **** myself.

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2011-05-04, 10:52 AM #176
Originally posted by mb:
Also didn't they identify him after they shot?


Not according to this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-south-asia-13257330?SThisFB

Quote:
"We have a visual on Geronimo," Mr Panetta said after troops entered the compound, according to the New York Times.

Minutes later, he told them: "Geronimo EKIA [Enemy Killed In Action]."
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2011-05-04, 10:58 AM #177
Oh alright, I forgot I had also heard that.
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2011-05-04, 11:45 AM #178
Originally posted by Mentat:
Not to mention the fact that he wasn't the only one in the house &/or in the area. I've been traveling a lot so I'm not entirely up-to-date but my understanding is that there were women & children inside as well. Every single time that we drop a bomb & kill bystanders we create the potential for animosity (an understatement) from families & friends of those victims. I think that's probably a negative thing if we want these people to be on our "side". I think that Obama & his administration probably considered this possibility.


I guess I just take for granted not dropping bombs everywhere.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-05-04, 12:55 PM #179
I'm happy to see the ******* go, but doing this is just stooping to their level. Are we supposed to stick his head on a spear and leave it outside our castle to scare them away?

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[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2011-05-04, 1:02 PM #180
I love that it's written in caveman speak.

"SHOW PHOTO!"
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2011-05-04, 1:08 PM #181
Okay, I would love to stick his head on a pike, but that's because I love the French Revolution, even more when my friend raised her hand in class to ask the professor "So what exactly constitutes a pike? Were there really that many long, pointy objects not in use, just waiting for someone's head to go on them? Was there much demand for pikes before the revolution? Because they seemed to have no end of them even in the early days."

So, while I think a graphic picture with the words: "Beware: this is what happens when you **** with America" is wrong, I'm all about a good head on a pike.
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2011-05-04, 1:14 PM #182
So you're saying you have an affinity for head?

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2011-05-04, 1:19 PM #183
I still think that we should have put that massive picture of that taxi driver kicking that burning terrorist in the balls as the "Welcome To Scotland!" sign at Glasgow airport.
nope.
2011-05-04, 1:49 PM #184
I don't know, personally, the thought of large armed men who don't exist bursting through my bedroom wall is enough to deter me from terrorism.

This bull**** 'warning picture lol' stuff is about as juvenile as the 'we shud have death penulty 4 everythin, no crime!' arguments.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-05-04, 1:59 PM #185
Yeah, to me this is just a way of saying "Hey guys, just a reminder, Tier 1 doesn't **** around. They don't exist, and they don't play by any sort of set of rules."
>>untie shoes
2011-05-04, 2:07 PM #186
Logic tells me that Palin doesn't personally write those stuff. She's like a puppet.
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2011-05-04, 7:02 PM #187
Funny how Pakistan is officially protesting the military action. It's clear that they're afraid of retaliations. Witnesses in the area confirmed that the Pakistan military had closed off the roads even before the first explosion was heard and the police arrived.
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2011-05-04, 8:50 PM #188
The Janitor knew...

Sorry, don't know how to play this video :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhCdlygmSJ4&feature=aso
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2011-05-04, 9:39 PM #189
Hint: Everybody knew.
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2011-05-04, 9:56 PM #190
Originally posted by sugarless:
Okay, I would love to stick his head on a pike, ...


For some reason this made me picture the scene at the end of Braveheart where Wallace was being disemboweled. I picture him as OBL, screaming "Freedommmmmm!". Then he catches a glimpses of his love over his shoulder and shouts, "dammit *****, pull that burka up!"

Also that reminds me that many reporters seem to be having a problem differentiating between OBL (or UBL) and OBH in this story.

Sorry, don't know how to play this video :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzKp43RC9Dk

Sorry, don't know how to play this video :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPrtA7e6pW4
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2011-05-04, 10:00 PM #191
Oh yeah, I meant to ask, what's the deal with Fox spelling it with a U? No one else seems to do that.

I'm betting they're doing it in order to avoid mistakes typing Obama instead of Osama, being that god knows a lot of liberal idiots would get into a giant uproar if someone on fox's website or one of their producers on television made a typo.
>>untie shoes
2011-05-04, 10:07 PM #192
Media elite have been doing that for some time. Kind of like the current pronunciation of Gaddafi and "Cutter" (Qatar).
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2011-05-04, 10:08 PM #193
If this was facebook I would "like" that last post.
2011-05-04, 10:23 PM #194
Either rendition is technically acceptable. I know I have seen it spelled both ways on official military reports.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-05-04, 10:24 PM #195
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Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-05-04, 10:25 PM #196
Oh I know it's acceptable. I am just wondering why Fox News is the only major news outlet that is spelling it that way. I really think it has to be to avoid typos that would piss off the dumb liberals.

NOTE: This is not me saying that all liberals are dumb. You should all know by now that I'm pretty damned liberal. But there are some stupid ass liberals out there that like to overreact about nonsense just the same as there are stupid ass conservatives who do the same.
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2011-05-05, 5:42 AM #197
I watched with amazement at how many people accidentally said "Obama" instead of "Osama". The easiest way to correct this is by calling them both by their last names & not just one of them (e.g: "Bin Laden" & "Obama"). You'd think that the media would know this.
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2011-05-05, 6:55 AM #198
The name confusion happened all over the world. I watched a special on Dutch television where they showed footage from international media. It was hilarious. Everything you can imagine, from 'President Osama' to 'Obama Bin Laden' and 'President Obama has been killed'.

The first day it was happening like every five minutes or so. I was watching a discussion show where it was happening constantly. Then a new guest entered the discussion, pointing out the confusion of the names, only to do the same thing himself like two minutes later.
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2011-05-05, 6:56 AM #199
I said obama posting the announcement of his death by accident on one forum.
2011-05-05, 7:29 AM #200
Well, since bin Laden refers to lots of people, calling him by his full common name: Osama bin Laden, and the other by his title for a change:The President we could make it a lot easier.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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