If someone came up to you saying I stole/rape/kill/harm. Would you think differently of them? Would you guard your wallet better? Would you cover your butt? Would you try to get away? Would you try to defend yourself?

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I think it was inevitable that it would turn into a discussion on the right-and-wrongs of homosexuality.

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Get busy living or get busy dying. - Andy Dufresne

slightly off topic.

Nauree, do you come from wyoming. I read an article about a gay boy being bashed to death there and that that state is very homophobic.

If you say anything about the two "thats", then you don't know much about grammar.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
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[This message has been edited by alpha1 (edited December 07, 2003).]

Probably TimeWolfOfThePast, but in my opinion a thread should only be moved if the original post was in the wrong forum.

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Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Why would knowing who they sleep with make you want to defend yourself? They aren't trying to steal from/rape/kill/harm you. Their being gay has *no* effect on your life. Does it honestly bother you that some of the people at Massassi might be gay?

I refer you to post 3 of this thread. And I am going to say something about the two "thats". It should be "That THE state is very homophobic.

Edit: spelling


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[This message has been edited by Nauree (edited December 07, 2003).]

Nauree, could you refer to page 4? I'd like a response to something I quoted you on.

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Get busy living or get busy dying. - Andy Dufresne

I belive I should not have to use more than one source if using the Bible. I belive that underminds God, therefor I would not make a topic about religion.


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So, the Bibble is fact now? I see.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Coquensidently, I dont think internet should be considered a way of life. So, light emiting from my screen will not have any ill effect on me except from cancer rays. I will make a simily to considering the internet not a way of life as text on the screen shouldn't hurt my feelings.



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Do you go to a public or religious school, Nauree? If you went to a public school and said that you'd be slapped.

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[This message has been edited by TimeWolfOfThePast (edited December 07, 2003).]

As i said i live in australia. we dont get our head of governments beliefs shoved down our throats in school. we have numerous things that could be controversial but we can keep them under control. A much less controversial system is worth the price of not being able to say that your oppinions are extremly biassed aginst a group of people.

I am also nealy 17 and I have taken a legal studies class before. Only I probably got more out of it as I chose it and it seems like you only like things that totaly agree with your views.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
alpha1: winner of the 2003 tfti award.
http://members.shaw.ca/orichan/images/MyArt/Guards.jpg
fear the evil pointy finger of death. yu-gi-oh Dub.

Do you want to actually convince anyone of your point Nauree, or do you just want to flame on?

If you actually want to accomplish anything, stop insulting, and if you must, at least add some wit to it. Also, there is alot of anger in your statements.

Now, this is my opinion zone but:

1.) People cannot choose their sexual preference. My base to that argument is that reproduction is something every living being does, and almost any disorder with that I put under a "disease" or "genetic" category, not psychological (Sp?). Think about it, when you are "turned on" what does that mean? Well, in very blunt terms, some chemical reaction is going on, and you are feeling that, a reaction you can't control. Example: If the woman of your dreams walked into your room coverd in baby oil wearing only a g-string, you would be feeling something, no? And let me ask you this: could you control that feeling? Not what you do with it, but the feeling itself.

2.) If a homosexual finds another person of the same preference, they should be allowed to do whatever they want. Newsflash man, not everyone is a zealot, and other that relegion/social reprocussions, there is nothing inherently wrong with that, just "sharing the love"

3.) No one should try to "correct" anyone else if the action is doing no harm to anyone. If someone is acting counter to what you belive, too bad. Just ignore it. Now, if someone was bashing your skull in...

Pretty much that is it. If you must respond, do so intellegently.

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There's nothing that actually needs "protecting" from a gay person. If the person is a rapist, then apprehension is certainly understandable, granting such an understatement. But simply because someone's gay doesn't mean that they're going to rape you.

You've hinted that you run in groups that don't consider sex a taboo topic. My friends, a group of straight, gay, and bisexual people, actually manage to generally not talk about sex. Sure, we may through in some appropriate comical innuendo, but there's nothing ever explicitly said.

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Okay, I don't really know how to proceed. I see where you're coming from, and no, I don't think homosexuality is worse than murder. This all boils down to the original point that.. gaflhsklfansdf. I give up. You win. I lost any sort of point I was trying to make a long time ago, and it seems like I'm just arguing now for the sake of arguing. It's a horrible analogy, and.. yeah. I'm throwing in the towel.

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But since text is just a different medium to speech, you are still getting the same opinions and personalities as you would if you met in person. The point still stands; you honestly change your opinion of someone based merely on who their partner is. Which is frankly no business of yours at all.

you still make analogies between homsexuality and things that actualy harm society by ending someones life without justification(ie. selfdefence againgst a gunman) unconscentual sex, assault and theivery. yet you just said that I made up the part about you saying that before.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
alpha1: winner of the 2003 tfti award.
http://members.shaw.ca/orichan/images/MyArt/Guards.jpg
fear the evil pointy finger of death. yu-gi-oh Dub.

Then please do not make any statments about the US Laws as you probly do not know much about how they work and where they come from.




Acculty, I go to a public school and no, I would not be slaped. It would most likely be understood. Considerably, because 95% of the people here and around are religious people. And the only private schools around here are Calthloic schools. And you might want to rethink what you said about public school and slap. If you can compair it to similar posts earlier.




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What's there to rethink?

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Get busy living or get busy dying. - Andy Dufresne

Well, he seemed to do the same thing about a certain friend who started taking drugs ~shrugs~

You wanna use analogies Nauree? We can too.

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* Seb goes around singing "I'm too sexy for my body"
* Wolfy goes around singing "I'm too sexy for Seb's body"
* Cave_Demon steals Seb's underwear (underwear stolen: 39)

alpha your still missing the point. We arnt talking about hurting society. We are talking about if homosexuality is good or bad. I think its bad and I gave other examples to what I also think is bad. Homosexuals can say that "Oh, being gay is good" and murders can say that "Oh, killing people is good" and Thevies can say that "Oh, stealing is fun". I hope your getting my point.


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I am judgeing that since america is not in a civil war, you do not have a law agianst homosexuality, if you did, the U.N would probably be having their meetings in either canada, australia or possibley euorope or the UK.

This would be becuase the U.N wants equal rights for all.

Anyway, I dont know about the us but in australia, reports on things in school need to have multiple sources (not just different websites but different types of sources as well) if we want to have the work even considered for marking.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
alpha1: winner of the 2003 tfti award.
http://members.shaw.ca/orichan/images/MyArt/Guards.jpg
fear the evil pointy finger of death. yu-gi-oh Dub.

Thats fine. And you know why I layed him off? Its because I dont want to get into trouble. If im associting him with and the cops come up and search him and he has drugs, I get punished to. I would probly get charged with "Intent to buy illegial substances" and he would get get charged with Intent to sell.

Edit: Fixed some spelling.

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[This message has been edited by Nauree (edited December 07, 2003).]

HOW DOES HOMOSEXUALITY IN ANY WAY HARM ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR FRAGILE MIND?

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If it doesn't harm society and is a consential act between two people, in what (secular) way can it possibly be classed as "bad"?

Ummm... no you wont because the U.s has a little thing called innocent until prooven guilty. I am sure that if you could proove that you where friends before he took drugs then there would be not much chance of convicting you.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
alpha1: winner of the 2003 tfti award.
http://members.shaw.ca/orichan/images/MyArt/Guards.jpg
fear the evil pointy finger of death. yu-gi-oh Dub.


[This message has been edited by alpha1 (edited December 08, 2003).]

So, you forget a friendship, for some charges that could simply be forgotten by a simple blood-test?

Based on that logic, You would forget a friend, for the simple fact he likes guys and you like girls? Jeebus, remove your eyeband.

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* Seb goes around singing "I'm too sexy for my body"
* Wolfy goes around singing "I'm too sexy for Seb's body"
* Cave_Demon steals Seb's underwear (underwear stolen: 39)

just out of curiosity, how old are you Nauree

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Nauree: GROW UP. Literally. You're only about 14, 15 or so, right? Admit you're younger and inherently have a naive outlook on the world, moreso than most of the people you're argueing with here, and come back to the arguement in 5-6 years. Once you've had more exposure to the real world you'll be able to form your own informed opinions, instead of just regurgitating what they drilled into you in several institutions. It happens to everyone, it's just part of growing up.

Oh and alpha:



Firstly grammar is spelt 'ar'. Secondly, the start of your sentence doesnt make much sense. 'I you say'?

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There is no spoon.

none. While it may be negative in the private opinions (or very public opinions in Nauree's case), it does not harm him. He should accept it, he does not have to advocate it.



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oh yeh wlel i jsut gots finesht wiht my morrwoind mod for teh JO An it takes up teh 900 gigabiets of spaec but i wlil not sowh yuo gyz teh scrnshoots becasue we dunat kare wut u gyz tihnk ne1 no wear i kan get ti hostad 4 dounlowd!!!!11!111 --Checksum

Ahh yes I would. The intent to Buy illegal drugs does not require a blood test. I could have been off drugs for a long while for all they know and going back for a little more. Shows how much you know about US Laws. I have no evidence except for his testimonty(sp?) and that won't do anything.



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sorry, i ment to type "IF you say....."

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
alpha1: winner of the 2003 tfti award.
http://members.shaw.ca/orichan/images/MyArt/Guards.jpg
fear the evil pointy finger of death. yu-gi-oh Dub.

Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'

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There is no spoon.

I think it's somewhat pointless insisting Nauree provide alternate references to the Bible. There are no alternate references from where he is coming from. If you want to continue this line of argument I'd suggest debating Nauree's interpretation of the Bible if anything.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

and you would know what happens during a charge of intent to buy illicet drugs, wouldn't you nauree.

also, they would give you a lawyer and they would actualy listen to your side of the story, dispite what soap oprea's lead you to think.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
alpha1: winner of the 2003 tfti award.
http://members.shaw.ca/orichan/images/MyArt/Guards.jpg
fear the evil pointy finger of death. yu-gi-oh Dub.

I dont know what kind of point your trying to get out but I'm trying to defend myself by showing why I THINK homosexuality is bad. And as for the institution comment, the only institution I go to is public school. I'd like to see you say the same thing by growing up in a whole state of people who think homosexuality is bad, proven by the first post of this topic. Yes, I live in Louisiana.

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Wow, so your trying to tell me my laws of the land from which you have no idea about my state, parish, and city laws. Wow, thats....wow....

Edit: Yes, I have taken US civics.


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[This message has been edited by Nauree (edited December 07, 2003).]

You two should stop nagging on each other.

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Get busy living or get busy dying. - Andy Dufresne

Church is an institution. Arguably, so is the family.

And that's exactly my point! You're just conforming to your surroundings. These arent your opinions, they're the ones that have been drilled into you by your church, school, friends, family. Give it a few years, mature a little. Make your own mind up, dont have it made up for you.

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