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Boy disciplined for using the word "gay" in school
2003-12-07, 3:29 PM #201
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spork:
Church is an institution. Arguably, so is the family.

And that's exactly my point! You're just conforming to your surroundings. These arent your opinions, they're the ones that have been drilled into you by your church, school, friends, family. Give it a few years, mature a little. Make your own mind up, dont have it made up for you.

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Church, school, friends, and family should be your life with also your hobbies and your job. What else can you think of that should be your life?

Edit: You know I thought about it and your right. Maby I shouldnt take in the wisdom of the elders at my church and the experiences from my friends and knowlage from school.[scarsim]


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2003-12-07, 3:30 PM #202
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spork:
Church is an institution. Arguably, so is the family.

And that's exactly my point! You're just conforming to your surroundings. These arent your opinions, they're the ones that have been drilled into you by your church, school, friends, family. Give it a few years, mature a little. Make your own mind up, dont have it made up for you.

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don't bother spork, next he will say something like, "how would you know. you grew up in austraia, where i live we can't help but give in to peer pressure.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly. :)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'</font>
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2003-12-07, 3:30 PM #203
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nauree:
I'd like to see you say the same thing by growing up in a whole state of people who think homosexuality is bad, </font>


You're not thinking at all, you're regurgitating what has been fed to you and using peer pressure as an excuse to validate your prejudices.

Edit: *********, I hate it when people insta-post me on the same thing I just wrote.



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2003-12-07, 3:32 PM #204
whoa!!!

I was actualy right.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly. :)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'</font>
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2003-12-07, 3:33 PM #205
i am going to bow out of this fight for a while to calm down. goodbye.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly. :)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'</font>
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2003-12-07, 3:33 PM #206
You know....You people remind me of a relative of mine...Who is about to be homeless alcholic with 2 kids from differnt mates and not married to anyone of thoes mates.

Edit: Ren - I dont know where your getting peer pressure from.

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2003-12-07, 3:35 PM #207
There is value in listening to your elders and friends and other such institutions in helping you discover your own beliefs and ideas. Blindly accpeting what someone else beleives becuase they say so without coming to your own conclusions and decsions shows closed and weak mindedness

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2003-12-07, 3:39 PM #208
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nauree:
You know....You people remind me of a relative of mine...Who is about to be homeless alcholic with 2 kids from differnt mates and not married to anyone of thoes mates.
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...I have no hope in joining the dots on that one. Anyway.

Yes, calming down would be a good idea for a few people here. This is the point where the coach calls Time Out.

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2003-12-07, 3:41 PM #209
You people are making assumations(sp?) and conclusions(sp?) about whats happening in my life, in which you dont know a damn thing to whats happening in my community. I'v been around gay people and based apon my own experience, I dont like they way they dress, I dont like how they act like the opposite sex and I am offended on how people of the same sex treat each other sexualy. I KNOW its not my busness about there sexualty but when you have gays giving booty on school transportion I cant help but to not know that something isnt going on.

Edit: Spelling, and im not mad.

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2003-12-07, 3:44 PM #210
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nauree:
Church, school, friends, and family should be your life with also your hobbies and your job. What else can you think of that should be your life?

Edit: You know I thought about it and your right. Maby I shouldnt take in the wisdom of the elders at my church and the experiences from my friends and knowlage from school.[scarsim]
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Firstly, it's 'maybe', 'knowledge', and 'sarcasm'.

Secondly, I'm not saying you should ignore these influences in your life, I'm just saying you should not take what they say as absolute cannon. It's your right to make your own mind up, dont waste that.

[edit: read Avenger's post also, we're saying the same thing]

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2003-12-07, 3:57 PM #211
If you're going to correct people's spelling, Spork, it's "canon." [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2003-12-07, 3:57 PM #212
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nauree:
I dont like they way they dress, I dont like how they act like the opposite sex and I am offended on how people of the same sex treat each other sexualy.</font>


Wow, what a horrible mess of assumptions. Gay people don't all dress stereotypically gay, they don't always talk like that, and they don't always engage in homosexual sexual activities. And you don't even know if the gay people you are around even do that, so how can you be offended by it?? That doesn't make any sense.

And on top of that, I bet all the people you think are gay, are probably straight. Either that, or you're making all this up and just trolling.

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2003-12-07, 4:13 PM #213
Having read only the first and last pages of this thread I fully agree with Nauree. Gays = bad.

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2003-12-07, 4:18 PM #214
Mikus, maybe you should read the thread before you totally agree with Nauree

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2003-12-07, 4:19 PM #215
Is it me or do I sense Mikus just wants to start trouble (this and other posts)?

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2003-12-07, 4:23 PM #216
Maybe he feels bad that Nauree is all alone.

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2003-12-07, 4:23 PM #217
Actually I just hate everyone and that tends to agitate people.

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2003-12-07, 4:28 PM #218
"I hate people because of the way they dress, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

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2003-12-07, 4:34 PM #219
First off, there is no way in **** I'm going to read the entire thread. 6 pages in one day instantly makes me think "cluster****" in my mind. So let me just comment on the article on page 1.

The school is being completely asinine. He is not using the word gay to degrade. He is just explaining why he doesn't have a dad. "gay is when a girl likes another girl".

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2003-12-07, 4:41 PM #220
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Wolfy:
If you're going to correct people's spelling, Spork, it's "canon." [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2003-12-07, 4:41 PM #221
You guys need to calm down. The word 'gay' has become a word synonomus with stupid or dumb. Unless the lesson the kid was talking about actually had to do with homosexual interraction, then he meant stupid. If not... then he can go burn in hell.

Oh and nauree, maybe you just need to take a dip onto the other side of the pond, if you catch my drift. If you wanna talk i'm CazorFett on AIM. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2003-12-07, 4:48 PM #222
On further inspection I have this to say:
They totally overreacted, the kid was using the word in context with innocent enough purpose, and he did no wrong, they were COMPLETELY out of line, and that kid should get a fat cash settlement.
Gays = bad

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2003-12-07, 4:50 PM #223
I hate how you guys taunt each other with ages. As if how old are you affects the validity of anything you say. Experience is the only thing that matters, and Nauree has had enough homophobia indoctrinated into him and has already formed his opinion.

Second, the bible is not a valid reference. The bible is not an unbiased source. Quoting that on a topic about homosexuality is like using Hitler's opinion on the subject of minority rights. Also understand that the majority of the world does not believe that bible to be truth.

This topic is pointless. The original focus is lost and now it's just a bunch of opinionated people trying to convice other opinionated people that their opinion is wrong. Homosexuality is and will always be around. Live with it.

What is wrong, however, is beating or harrassing someone because they're gay. People who do or support such activity are incredibly ignorant and need to be relieved of the chore of living. It is a sad man who has been indoctrinated with such hate that he has to indulge in acts of violence against people they think are wrong, even if it is to 'set them straight.'

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2003-12-07, 4:58 PM #224
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nauree:
I'v been around gay people and based apon my own experience, I dont like they way they dress, I dont like how they act like the opposite sex and I am offended on how people of the same sex treat each other sexualy. I KNOW its not my busness about there sexualty but when you have gays giving booty on school transportion I cant help but to not know that something isnt going on.

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Well, going from that post, it sounds like the only exposure to homosexuals you've ever had is South Park. I've known quite a few gay people, and NONE of them fit the stereotypes you listed there.


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2003-12-07, 5:00 PM #225
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Yes but no one has acculty came foward to me and told me "I'm gay."
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i'm gay...or a lesbian if you think theres a diffrence


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'm proud to say that I am a lesbian. I can't stand men, and this thread just reminds me of that. I'm quite offended by Nauree's ignorant comments...
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and i actually like guys.. just y'know not sexually

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">lets all just agree that homosexuality is ok and people can do what ever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt someone else.
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2003-12-07, 5:05 PM #226
Personally, I love lesbians.

Sorry, I had to say that.

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2003-12-07, 5:05 PM #227
But it DOES hurt other people. One time I woke up in the morning and there was an extremely hairy, fat man wearing only a leather thong on the front page of my newspaper. I'm scarred for life.

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2003-12-07, 5:06 PM #228
Mikus, shut it if your not going to add anything usefull to this debate.

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2003-12-07, 5:08 PM #229
I'm discussing my own personal experience in relation to the topic at hand, whereas you are merely attacking me. Who is adding less to the debate my friend?

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2003-12-07, 5:09 PM #230
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cazor:
You guys need to calm down. The word 'gay' has become a word synonomus with stupid or dumb. Unless the lesson the kid was talking about actually had to do with homosexual interraction, then he meant stupid. If not... then he can go burn in hell.</font>


Er, you might try reading the article first Cazor.

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2003-12-07, 5:10 PM #231
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Raven:

thats what im talkin' 'bout. tombfyre's my new god [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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yeah, i am actually everbody's god. it is only that some people do not realize it yet
and, oh yeah:
lets all just agree again that homosexuality is ok and people can do what ever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt someone else.



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2003-12-07, 5:10 PM #232
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lord Kuat:
Personally, I love lesbians.

Sorry, I had to say that.

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*pats you on the head*

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2003-12-07, 5:11 PM #233
The word gay needs to be used in context at times.

PS: Guys why are you carrying this flame war over from another thread, its just calling for the hammer.
2003-12-07, 5:14 PM #234
I want you to be honest on this Nauree,

If your best friend told you he was gay, what would you do?

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2003-12-07, 5:35 PM #235
sigh.......

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2003-12-07, 5:37 PM #236
Nauree, seriously, come off your Holier-Than-Thou Throne, it's very off-putting and since you say that you're a Christian it's not the way that you should act. Telling people on this forum that they remind you of an alcoholic relative because they dont agree with your views... yeah...

Have to say the reason that homosexuals are called gay is because they are happy. All of the gay people I know are the most outgoing and cool people I've ever met. I really dont understand where Nauree's going with his 'the way they dress' thing. They dress like everyone else, there's no stereotypical gay-dress, at least not anymore. Maybe the reason you think this is because where you grow up, where everyone hates homosexuals, has no fashion sense.

Also, I've talked to one of my gay friends about it. I asked him if he knew he was always gay and he said "yes, I've never been attracted to a woman, even when I was younger (meaning like hitting puberty and everyone's a horny little devil)" and then he asked me if I was always attracted to women and I said "yes" and then he said "well there you have it." And as I said before he's one of the coolest guys I've ever met and he always gives me crap about how I dress saying 'oh that's nice! your tendencies are coming out!' and before you go off on me, we always joke about me turning gay even though I know that wont happen, the entire 'one bad apple analogy' doesnt apply to homosexuality. Like it was stated before it's not a disease.

Nauree, please remind yourself that there are people in the world that have beliefs different than yours, in fact it's a perfect time for you to think about other cultures right now! Ramadan (sp?) just finished and Hanukah and Christmas are right around the corner!

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2003-12-07, 5:45 PM #237
Just.. wow. My homophobia meter is going off the scale in this thread. Gays aren't out to get you, people. There's nothing to be afraid of.

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2003-12-07, 5:52 PM #238
Now that I am back from my AA session I will answer all you flames, questions, stupids with my indefinate wisdom.

To Emon on 6:57 - My post is not a big assumption. The people at my school that are gay dress like women, they talk gay where I live. Even if I havnt seen them do it I know they have to have done something to become gay which leads to a mental picture. The people I know are straight as proven by there girlfriends unless they are deciving me by being gay with girls.

Cazor on 7:41 - No, I do not and will not ever talk with you on AIM with that "dip onto the other side of the pond" comment, implying homosexualy talk with me. You are now on my block list.

Vincent on 7:50 - Bible is a valid reference to people who belive and god and in the bible but seemlying its no valid here since every here are athisits but where I come from everyone here are either Caltholic, Baptist, or Christion. There are very little athisits.

JediHunter_X on 7:58 - I think Southpark should go to hell. No, I do not watch Southpark.

Raven on 8:00 - Quote on tombfyre. Homosexuality hurts me. I get mental pictures that I don't want and this post thread has been hell for me trying to defend myself. But after the 1 or 2 second picture I am able to supress myself with my full mental control, supporting my mental control comments in other posts.

SAS | nauticus.enigma on 8:14 - Seeing as none of my friends are gay as they all have or had or have to intent to have girlfriends. If a friend did become gay I would supress interaction with him. This is a good example as I have went neutral with a friend because he started playing EQ. I dont hate him for playing it but I see it is a complete waist of time seeing as his mom ban him from other MMRPGs and hes just waisting all his money not being able to play.

Edit: Spelling

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2003-12-07, 5:59 PM #239
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nauree:
I know they have to have done something to become gay</font>


You don't have to have been involved in homosexual sexual activities to become homosexual. Many homosexuals refrain from it because of their religion, or for other reasons.

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2003-12-07, 5:59 PM #240
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Schming:
Nauree, seriously, come off your Holier-Than-Thou Throne, it's very off-putting and since you say that you're a Christian it's not the way that you should act. Telling people on this forum that they remind you of an alcoholic relative because they dont agree with your views... yeah...

Have to say the reason that homosexuals are called gay is because they are happy. All of the gay people I know are the most outgoing and cool people I've ever met. I really dont understand where Nauree's going with his 'the way they dress' thing. They dress like everyone else, there's no stereotypical gay-dress, at least not anymore. Maybe the reason you think this is because where you grow up, where everyone hates homosexuals, has no fashion sense.

Also, I've talked to one of my gay friends about it. I asked him if he knew he was always gay and he said "yes, I've never been attracted to a woman, even when I was younger (meaning like hitting puberty and everyone's a horny little devil)" and then he asked me if I was always attracted to women and I said "yes" and then he said "well there you have it." And as I said before he's one of the coolest guys I've ever met and he always gives me crap about how I dress saying 'oh that's nice! your tendencies are coming out!' and before you go off on me, we always joke about me turning gay even though I know that wont happen, the entire 'one bad apple analogy' doesnt apply to homosexuality. Like it was stated before it's not a disease.

Nauree, please remind yourself that there are people in the world that have beliefs different than yours, in fact it's a perfect time for you to think about other cultures right now! Ramadan (sp?) just finished and Hanukah and Christmas are right around the corner!

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Acculty, being a christian doesnt force me to like everyone. There is no rule in the bible that forces you to have assoation with people you dont like. So, I dont want to have anything to deal with them. And as for how they act/dess/whatever examples I gave in earlyer posts, you just telling me how gay people over there, where you live, are like, I'm telling you how they are over where I live are like. I belive homosexuality is bad, you cant convence me its good because I am a Christian, I belive in the bible, and in the bible it states that homosexuality is bad. The only way you people will ever change my mind is convencing me gay is good is if you prove to me there is no God.


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