Aparently my city (or maybe state, not sure yet) as implimented a new policy to help cut down on teen smoking.

Now if you are caught smoking and are under 18 you can get a ticket and potentially have to do comminity service. Sorta like a driving ticket. Also you can be forced into Anti Teen Smoking programs. The craziest part of it all is that repeat offenders can have their driver's licenses taken away.

Ok, I advocate teen smoking and considering it is against the law for persons under the age of 18 to smoke I have no problems with actions being taken against violators. Tickets and fines, yeah ok. Forced into after-school programs, maybe. But wtf does your driver's license have to do with smoking. I understand that it's the whole idea of "You are not showing responsibility and therefor we are taking away your privileges" but smoking and driving don't even go together.

*cough Cough Hack Cough Hack Hack Crash*

A driver's liscense ISN'T a right.

Regardless of the fact if it has anything to do with smoking or not.


Smoking is idiotic (I used to do it) and this is a PERFECT deterrant towards people making the same retarded mistake I did.

The only reason you'd be coughing is if you'd never smoked before... in which I wouldn't sugest that you be driving. If in a car at all I sugest the backseat of your friendly neighborhood pothead's van. Or station wagon in my case.

So if you are cought with a hooker your license should be revoked? How's about if you shoplift? Too many parking tickets? Yeah, revoke the license. Public nudity? That's no reason to take away a license.

Actually, it's similar to the "go to your room without dessert" kind of treatment. If you screw up too much, then they'll simply start taking away nice things.

If you're stupid.


You should be punished.



But to humor you, I'll make up some better punishments.



Shoplifting;
Wipe your *** with your bare hands for a month straight for every dollar of the dollar value of what you attempted to shoplift.

What does wiping your *** have to do with shop lifting? Nothing?


Hookers;
You now have to do that hooker without any protection. PS, you also have to perform a dirty sanchez.

Enjoy the STDs.

What do STDs have to do with hookers? Admitedly everything. Quit being a dirty **** and find a real woman.

Public Nudity;
You have to remain nude, you are banned from clothing.
Have fun in the snow.




Or we could cut your hands off for being stupid.



Smokers are taxing on out countries medical infrastructure. I don't give a **** about 33 year old Jeremy Bronchitos because he is having trouble breathing. The next time Jeremy (PS, this really did happen. The first thing they ask him is if he smokes, and he chokes out a yes. **** him) is in the emergency room with priority over me because I have a broken arm and don't have any trouble breathing I'm going to beat him in the face with cancer.


PS, non-smoking programs are nothing new. And already cost me money.

PSS, why the hell is removing the licenses of stupid people a bad thing? LESS DUMB PEOPLE IN MY WAY WHEN I'M DRIVING.

EL

OH

EL


I know someone who's been smoking for 40+ years. I don't know if you can say the reason for their coughing is because they've never smoked before. Smoking isn't something that you 'get used to', it hurts you just the same no matter how long or how short you've been smoking.

You all realize that your parents can just up and go to the DMV and say "revoke my kid's license." No ifs, ands, buts, or questions.

Plus what Rob said.

Your parents are also entitled to any and all income you bring in until you turn 18.



And don't start with that OMG TEEN RIGHTS bull****.

You aren't old enough for rights you'd just abuse. Be happy that beating you isn't within my rights.

So repeat offenders get their license taken away. I mean, if you get caught once, shouldn't it occur to you not to smoke in public anymore to the point they actually take away your privilege to drive?

You'd think that wouldn't you?


But stupid people never fail to intrigue me with just how stupid they are capable of being. Some people are just like black holes that suck away logic instead of light.

Yes

I think there isn't an issue that smoking and driving is "unrelated" here. It seems "responsibility" is key in this policy. If you are so dense that you repeat a dumb act several times over, most likely you are not at all responsible to operate a vehicle.

"lawl i think i can drive drunk and get away with it lawl."

exactly. so how's about if you get caught smokign under age a lot we take away a privilege that actually has something to do with smoking. kids are smart, they will know that this is bull****.

...like what?

I still may be a teen, but I'm all for taking licenses away.

One less little ***** driver to deal with on the road that could possibly end up killing someone while driving anyways.

...


Dude, we all disagreed with you. All of us.


Seriously. Learn how to read.

ok, stupid people shouldnt' drive. nothing new there, not gonna argue, but still not really the point of this arguement so stop changing the thread. if all stupid people would lose there license the rest of us would be drafted into government sponsered public transportation program. i have no problem just passing the slow *** idiot drivers in the median or simply running htem off the ****ing road.

I'm just saying, wtf does drivig have to do with smoking? I'm all for hte afterschool program **** but wft. not even all teens have licenses.

Smoking causes a 50% chance to be in an accident while driving.

That's what.

You smoke weed, don't you?

... THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. WE WERE DISCUSSING HOW DRIVING RESPONSIBLY AND ACTING RESPONSIBLY ARE ABOUT THE SAME THING.

If you can't act responsibly, you don't get to drive.


I don't see the problem.


NEXT!


PS, this is an open forum. Good conversations never stay on topic. You are not a mod.

You don't get to tell people to stay on topic. Nothing here stays on the exact topic the entire time. Get used to it, or get over it.

i'm in agreeance you dumbass. responsability is an issue. break the law, get punished to make them learn a lesson. Congrats, you figured out how the judicial system works. now you can pass the 4th grade. but if you look outside you will find that lots of unresponsible people drive cars, responsible people smoke, and apparantly illiterates post on massassi. stop picking fights and read a little before you shoot off your mouth. All taking away a car will do is make a teenager get pissed off or simply hide / delay smoking until he's over 18. Something actually related to smokign like DARE programs and such is more the way to go.

[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]You smoke weed, don't you?[/QUOTE]No, I think he smokes hurr

Woah woah woah...why all the hostility?

yay insults

no more hostility than what was recieved.

and a lot more things can impair a driver's judgment than smoke. like cellphones.



and no, i don't smoke pot

lol

ok, that made me laugh too

Actually, you were more or less agreeing with us, when we were totally disagreeing with the only point you were trying to make.


You were effectively sticking both fingers in your ears and going "LALALALALALALLALALALA," which isn't a very good debate tactic.

Then again, I didn't expect you to be able to hear anything to begin with. What with you head all in your ***.

They shouldn't be allowed to.
Yes, but responsible people don't get addicted and they don't smoke anything as vile and awful as a cigarette.
Yes. Yes, illiterate people post on Massassi.

[quote=Kanchi while doing his best impersonation]

• Aparently
• implimented
• comminity
• I advocate teen smoking [...], I have no problems with actions being taken against violators. (?)
• wtf does your driver's license have to do with smoking.
• therefor
• in which I wouldn't sugest that you be driving.
• sugest
• cought
• How's about
• so how's about
• smokign
• kids are smart
• ok
• shouldnt'
• arguement
• there (ed: he means their)
• sponsered
• htem
• drivig
• hte
• wft
• i'm
• agreeance (ed: widely considered to be an obsolete word)
• responsability
• unresponsible (ed: irresponsible. see above.)
• illiterates
• smokign

[/quote]

You mentioned "you can be forced into Anti Teen Smoking programs" so what's the problem? If the program didn't work, prehaps it is time to slap the kid in the face (take away his drivers license).

The state isn't worried so much about you smoking and your health due to smoking, as long as you don't do it under the age limit. They can only do so much to punish offenders. Of course you can be a bad smoker but a good driver.

lol, so i can't type so well when i go fast. I have a life instead of sitting in my room practicing my typing skills.

I think that a good alternative would be to push back the legal smoking age of those who smoke at an early age. most places are starting to use the magnetic stripes on the back of licenses now, it wouldn't be that hard to put a flag on it for people to not allow them to buy cigs for an extra year or so. Most teenagers really look forward to rights that come with turning 18. If they can't wait til they're 18, make them wait til they're 19.

Most teens aren't really responsible enough to drive anyways in my opinion, but they do anyways and that's not likely to change. Taking away a license is what parents would do, but I don't see how the government would claim that right. I mean, they could do a lot worse, just doens't quite seem to match up.

No, it's just a matter of putting a little care into your posts so that you don't come off as unintelligent. But in your case, that's irrelevant.

Smoking was already the cool fad of 1930's.

Geez.

thank you.... i think

All this radiation to 'real world' has caused his reading comprehension to be comprimised. OHNOES!

I agree with Rob. It's not a RIGHT. It's a PRIVILEGE. You don't NEED to drive in your teen years. Have you seen guys ride around on bikes? I have. They sure don't drive.

And as far as I'm concerned, if the government issued it, the government can take it away under certain circumstances.

You are illiterate.

yeah make fun of me if you wish, i can type quite well when i need to. I have some legal background and i really don't think that revoking a license would hold up in court. Atleast not with a jury trial.

I think it's time to declair this thread officially derailed. I'm too sleepy to keep trying to get a decent arguement out of anyone. g'night everybody!

What the hell...how is it derailed? Most of the thread's been about revoking a license for smoking underage. Only recently have there been a few posts about his typing.