there is a big difference between what you are taught and actual experience

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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

Hey everyone, Pagewizard_YKS forgot to notice how I said "HEY EVERYONE" in my post, therefore telling that PC sucks to EVERYONE and not just one person. Cause PC was so 1995 man, this is 2004. We got all sorts of nasty things to say to others now. So hop to it my Massassi brothers.

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.

You don't literally say you want women in cages. You refer to them as chicks. Deconstruct your language.



Me.


It's not slavery if it is self-imposed. Free will doesn't amount to slavery. The only person on this thread even advocating anything close to slavery is you since your ideas amount to women being objects. I like how you tried to impact your argument this time, makes things interesting. (Or so I think, very few people actually reply to my crazy posts even though I keep making them more crazy to get them noticed )



Who said anything about happiness? I just want to stop the dehumanization of women. You can be depressed for all I care.



Uh oh, your idealogues can beat my idealogues up, big deal. You're a realist? So you believe we should always act in our own self interest? Your treatment of women isn't in your self interest because you're going to eventually realize that treating them as objects is anti-capitalistic anyway. You don't want women to live for themselves. You want them to be objects, that's why you use language like "chicks" anyway.



Scary thought. More reason to reject every instance of it, including you. The fact that it's inevitable doesn't make it right.



I'm not forcing anything, I'm debating you. Either ignore me or debate me. Whine somewhere else. I don't care if people like me around here or not. I've learned that trying to be popular is a failure here. Spending hours trying to help blujay and Pommy convert the forums never got me any of the ambitions I seeked at the time.

If I seem angry it's because it's 2 AM and I'm trying to make these posts extra passionate sounding so things become more interesting.

Oh and your advice isn't comparable. I'm criticizing you, I don't expect you to like it. Advice is something people should like to hear.

He's acting condescending towards me for not being PC-- for all I know, he may equate me as the next Hitler. What have i done to him?

I post often about this b/c its a part of who I am now. I discarded my old personality for this, and it cannot be undone at this point even if I wanted it to be undone b/c there is nothing to revert to. it's gone.My personality tends to leak over into anything that i post, so thats why you see it so often. It's more than a way to get women, its a whole new way to see the world.

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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

Dear god. Just stop, man. Could you be any more condescending? It's obvious you're just doing this to get everyone riled up.



So the advice you're giving me is stuff I should already know, yet you feel the larger part of us need to hear it. So we're stupid. Point taken.



You can't remember what it's like to be one of us peons, eh? I'll give you a hint: We don't like being talked down to, for one.

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

We should take a vote. Who here thinks Pagewizard_YKS should just get the hell off this thread and start his own thread to preach his sexist beliefs on women? Who here agrees that he fails to notice that I don't care what he says because I made my mind and no matter how much he preaches and jumps back, expecting me to make up my mind


THAT I ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.

I would just like reiterate the point that not referring to women as "chicks" is about as politically correct as not referring to homosexuals and f**s and d***s, Chinese as ch***s, Jews as rat b******s, and black people as n*****s, in that it's not a matter of political correctness: it's about respect and not using terminology that the majority of women find offensive and objectifying.

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<ubuu> does hitler have a last name?
<jipe> .. yes, Ubuu, we're racist commy nazi jews, and we hate male pattern baldness
<Professor`K> Sorry, but half-way through your logic, my head exploded

[This message has been edited by Wolfy (edited July 25, 2004).]

And I apologoize if my posts are a little too shall we say "intense". I probably didn't need to compare Pagewizard to genocide. It's hard to break habits taught at debate camp.

No, it's ok, really. Compare him to Hitler and Stalin too while you are at it.

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.

Jedi Legend: so you are against treating women as objects. Great. I treat women as equalsin the fact that i don't put them on proverbial pedestals. , but you take it to a much bigger extreme. What i'm doing works for me, What are you getting for what you do?

Freelancer:



You're taking what i'm saying and taking it out of context. I may come off as jaded sometimes b/c most of you would agree that my mentality and the mentalities of most here are polar opposites, and b/c of this, it's hard to see what its like on the other side after being removed from it from so long.

It's like cooking a fish and then dumping it back in river and expecting it to pick up where it left off.

BTW, its late, I'm going to bed. I'll pick this up tommorrow.

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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

Nice vocab. Way to ignore 100% of my analysis. kthxbye.[/quote]



The pleasure of winning the argument. I don't believe 100% in some feminist beliefs. For example, some people insist on spelling human as humyn. But I do think calling women "chicks" is over the line. I believe many here agree.

/me checks his watch...

it's taking the invasion fleet too long to get here... i want the human race wiped out NOW

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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

I took your words perfectly in context, Pagewizard. That's what you said directly after Wolfy accused you of condescending behavior. You claim your condescending tone is an "unintentional side effect" of being removed from how "we" think. You've touted the benefit of your "philosophy" several times; surely you think it's a superior way to live . . .

Thus, I fail to see how I've taken what you've said out of context. You've already agreed with me; you've claimed your "mentality" to be superior numerous times, and my post above was simply reiterating that.

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Have a good one,
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"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity."

-Albert Einstein

And still no one has replied with "Dude, Thrawn, your wannabe GF is HOT!" I guess Massassi is a little slow tonight.

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.

Let's break this down, you're a moron.

And the rest of you...why are you trying to argue with him? I used to, and then I thought of it this way...

Pretend a three year old comes up to you and states that they can fly. Would you sit down an argue with them why this is an impossibility and they have no idea what they are talking about? Of course not! It's not worth the effort. The statement is so ridiculous and the person making it is so uninformed that it would be a waste of effort and air to do anything more than chuckle and shake your head. It's the same thing in this case.


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RIP Madaventor: God bless you.

We're so stunned by the hawtness that the words haven't come yet.

I won't lie, when I first saw the pics, I myself doubted wheather or not I was looking at her, or something she pulled off Google. Then when I spoke to her, the voice sounded as amazing as she looks and I thought "ok maybe it is..." and I went into Cici's tonight and had to lift my jaw off the floor.

My confidence went through the roof, knowing a girl as gorgeous as her could really like me really made my week. I don't even want to go to bed, and I got work in 5 hours.

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.

[This message has been edited by THRAWN (edited July 25, 2004).]

That's because she's not your real GF. We all know girls don't -really- exist!

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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

My wife and I spent the first 14 months of our relationship around 4000km from each other with only a couple of visits.

If you have two people who are mature and committed towards a goal; acheiving it is not as hard as you might think no matter what obstacles. You both really need to be on the same page though.



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"There is much feminism in the world, Grasshopper. It has always been thus. And so our ancestors built this monastery and developed the art of Page Fu so they might cultivate masculinity and protect themselves from women."

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Corrupting the kiddies since '97

CiCi's? Where do you live?

And btw, THRAWN, I'd take your posts a lot more seriously if you didn't say "I'm mature, Everyone says so, Hey look at me, I'm mature!" All you have to say is that You know you're more mature than he, and you don't feel the need to defend yourself.

Personally, I know PW's advice is sound, and while THRAWN's case was special, you usually have to objectify a woman to some degree to get them to be interested in you. If you fawn all over them like they were a treasure in real life you'd get a restraining order. As much as you guys don't want to admit it, his advice works.

Did it work for this instance? No.

I have no comment on him being "chauvinistic" or anything of that matter except--if you're calling someone chauvinistic because they say a word on an online forum populated by 97% males, you need to seriously rethink your priorities in life. I mean JL, you've spent this entire thread in flamewar with PW because he basically said "chicks". You need to grow up as much as you say he does.

PW--I'll have to admit you're being a little condescending. Though I don't mind, some massassians are sensitive to that. *shrugs*.

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Well thank goodness somebody understands! It's got nothing to do with political correctness.
Pagewizard - By referring to women as chicks, not only are you making those like me seriously dislike you, but you're probably alienating many girls that you want relationships with. Unless of course it's a term you only use behind their backs.
Kieran - it's nothing like calling a guy 'dude' whatsoever. It's comparing a woman to a bird, an animal, and it's not ok.

I personally think the whole PC thing has gotten way way way out of hand, but I think that's because people are second guessing what others find offensive. I don't know anybody that's black and feels it necessary to be referred to as african-american (wtf? I live in London! but you know what I mean ) and luckily (as far as I know) it's ok to use the term black now. However I don't know a single girl who is happy being referred to as a chick, which is why it's offensive. It's not about walking on eggshells with your terminology, it's about simply acknowledging what people find offensive, and not using it.

now, THRAWN - I'm going to reiterate the 'long-distance relationships are incredibly hard' thing. Once I got to university, the people I knew in relationships with people from their home town (why am I talking like an American this morning?) had all moved on by their second year. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but it's really hard, and the two of you will have to sit down and acknowledge that, and decide what you're going to do. The long-distance relationships I've seen end have all ended because one (or both) parties have found somebody they like more and much as it's difficult to admit, you (or rather she, as she's going somewhere new) are going to meet people you find attractive. If you're honest with eachother about it, and don't try to protect eachother just because you've made a new friend of the opposite sex and you're worried they'll jump to conclusions, then I don't see why it doesn't have a chance to work out. With you finishing college soon, if you can't bear to be apart from her, you can go be with her. Ok, I'm gonna shut up now because I'm still half asleep and I don't know if I'm making sense.

btw - omqliekwtf ur gf is hawt!!!!


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/end boob rant

L.M.F.A.O
woah, way too early for anything that funny....



WOW.
we're a minority, so our feelings should be ignored?

just....wow.


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Well yeah, where the hell have you been? Living under a rock?

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0 of 14.

<3 Jaiph for kung fu legend reference!


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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

Where does her family live? If she's going to college she's got to have a home to come back to for hollidays, right? If her family still lives near you it might not be too bad. :x
[edit - oh, nevermind. I saw a bunch of pagewizard fighting and decided not to read past the first post... but just now I saw you already answered that question. Good luck! ]

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Do you have stairs in your house?

[This message has been edited by Correction (edited July 25, 2004).]

This thread amuses me on far too many levels.

I agree with Darko. Let the petty name-calling comence!

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There is no spoon.

*sigh*... where to begin...

List of people who've made posts dangerously close to breaking rules:
- DrkJedi82
- Flexor
- Jedi Legend
- THRAWN

List of people who very blatently broke rules:
- Darko

List of people who've tried to keep the peace:
- Kieran Horn
- DJ Yoshi

Well done everyone. How about in future you just let Pagewizard say his piece then either ignore it or agree with it.

Thrawn, I wish you the best of luck, but in all probability this may end up being far more work than you can handle.

i met the girl i wanted to marry once. but i was already married.

HA!

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Pissed off?

refraining from calling people ethnic slurs is not politically correct, its just called being polite.

There is a difference between the two. You are polite to people b/c you expect them to be polite to you. PC, on the other hand... I consider that to be little better than blantant a** kissing.



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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

Don't care, kthxbye.

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Dark, Darker, Darko

RIP Madaventor: God bless you.

Darko: I thought that's when you chuck the three-year-old off a tall building so he could prove it. It's too bad analogies can only be streched so far.

I miss all the good stuff.

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"We came, we saw, we conquered, we...woke up!"

Now I'm horribly confused. Since when was "chick" anywhere near the same level of insulting as the others listed? Hell, they've come out with a movie called "White Chicks"... I don't remember them using those other examples in movie titles. Is "babe" on this level too? I mean they bleep those other examples off of TV, I don't remember 'chick' being one of them... I certainly don't associate women with anything negative or as an animal... hell, the Jonny Bravo cartoon made fun of it once when Bravo wished to a leprachan to be adored by a bunch of chicks, and it was then to be amusing because instead of women, as Bravo wanted and we were suppose to expect, he's surrounded by baby chickens... so confused...

And just to make myself clear, I don't agree with Page either, but I agree with what Det said. And Jaiph, hehehehehehhe...

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To be honest, maev, you're the only female that really attends these boards. The rest of them (all like...2?) Post once in a blue moon. I didn't mean to offend, but to be brutally honest it's the truth. Why should HE be offended that PW's saying "chicks" (which although I never say just because I got in the habit, I know many women who could care less if they're called that)? Unless JL has some secret that (s?)he's going to tell us.

Really, if you think guys call women chicks to refer to them as animals, you're overanalyzing. It's just natural for humans to want to be able to refer to things in many different ways, instead of repetetively. That and all the other terms are used in a highly formal manner, or in a derrogatory manner.

I just call everyone people, so I guess I don't have to worry about it though.

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Why do I get the feeling you're the only admin with balls enough to step in and stop people from taking shots at Page for voicing his opinion? We need more admins like Det.

THRAWN, I wish the best of luck to you. Hopefully you manage things up.

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I don't know why the women I know generally don't like being referred to as "chicks." However, it's a very simple act to omit it from my daily vocabulary, so I see no reason to not avoid its usage if they so wish it. Call me a push-over if you want; I'm simply doing something out of respect for friends.

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<ubuu> does hitler have a last name?
<jipe> .. yes, Ubuu, we're racist commy nazi jews, and we hate male pattern baldness
<Professor`K> Sorry, but half-way through your logic, my head exploded

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Pagewizard: I believe you have as much say in this topic as any other member. But there comes a time when we all need to let it go.

Now, to get back on topic.
THRAWN: I think a long distance relationship could in fact work very well. Look, dude, if you really like this girl, you need to follow you heart and go for it. What could you possibly have to loose? This could be your one chance at true love. So go for it, man. I wish you good luck.

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Ok, that's a pretty stupid argument. Just because he's not a woman he shouldn't find derogatory comments towards women offensive? I'm not black, but I find the n-word offensive. I'm not gay but I find the word *** offensive. Only finding things offensive that attack you directly is a pretty shallow way of going through life.

....by the by, I don't personally think that 'chicks' is NECESSARILY a derogatory term. I think it CAN be used as one. In page's case, as with most things he does, I just find it sad more than anything. Seriously, every time he refers to 'chicks' (or, really, most of the times he opens his mouth) I get this picture in my mind of a balding guy with a beer gut in a leisure suit.

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Dark, Darker, Darko

RIP Madaventor: God bless you.

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