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Ron Paul
2008-02-01, 5:32 PM #81
Originally posted by JediKirby:
How so? The funny part about the Ron Paul supporters is that they're all hand-fed momma's boys. Why are all of the nerds that either have the ability to work a high paying job, or are still living at home off of their father's income supporting Ron Paul?


The assumption I see here: No lower class individuals support Ron Paul.


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Ron Paul would see those gas companies get bigger, and would see those companies become one single company.



The assumption I see here: Lack of federal regulation means that state and local regulation does not exists.

These companies can still be regulated.

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OK, let's dodge all of that and get a job without going to school? Now we're making minimum wage, and trying to pay for transportation and funding.



The assumption I see here: All jobs are minimum wage and low paying if you don't go to school. Additionally, apparently using military scholarships to pay for a good education isn't an option.

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Add a sudden accident or disability or child to this, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to get ground back. This isn't people being lazy, stupid, or incapable. It's people being unable to afford the high cost of living, or paying the ridiculous fee for a piece of paper that allows you to work in a wealthy field.


No real assumption here -- this is a very valid point but again, Ron Paul wants to drive down the cost of health care and, additionally, there is also state and local government which are much easily influenced by the people they represent.

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Unmonitored industry would further destroy our economy, and nothing about economics is going to disagree with that statement. Nowhere will you hear the phrase "Monopolies help everyone in a society." Monopolies go AGAINST the grain of a society, destroying it from the ground up.


As mentioned earlier, this is assuming no state and local regulation.

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We're going to look like a lot of African countries in a few years, if things keep going in this direction. Big government buildings full of delegates all handing money back and forth between eachother, killing dissenters, and using "Freedom" as a justification for everything.


I don't quite follow your logic here. The issue is that the government uses the word "freedom" as a sort of justification but hardly practice it themselves. Ron Paul wants to practice and protect individual freedoms promised by our Constitution while, at the same time, staying out of foreign affairs and objecting to nation building.
2008-02-01, 5:40 PM #82
Originally posted by Tracer:
Uh, a heated home is kind of nessecary.


Kind of. We've been spending a lot of money on it in the past century or so. People used to do it themselves. This is yet another thing we tend to pay another person to do, and we wonder why it costs to much. Because we outsource everything to other people.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-02-01, 7:22 PM #83
Originally posted by Echoman:
But first find a source where it states minimal wage doesn't help hardly any people.

Yes, just as soon as you learn to distinguish facts from reasoning.

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How so? The funny part about the Ron Paul supporters is that they're all hand-fed momma's boys. Why are all of the nerds that either have the ability to work a high paying job, or are still living at home off of their father's income supporting Ron Paul?

Freelancer, you know NOTHING about being poor, and the kind of things that keep people from making money. People as a whole don't have the ability to make enough money to pay for basic needs. Do you understand what it might be like for a single mother with a child working 3 jobs, only to see the price of gas go up because of governments lack of control on the gas companies? Ron Paul would see those gas companies get bigger, and would see those companies become one single company. How can that possibly help our economy.

Your problem is that you've had everything paid for your entire life. To get a well paying job in America, you have to go to a college that is going to cost you loans. Already you're paying 200 dollars a month once you're out of school. Hopefully there are jobs available, and you haven't been privatized/outsourced out of a position.


You shouldn't make ad-hominem attacks like that especially if they consist of unverifiable generalizations. It doesn't really take the conversation anywhere, it it does your position a disservice.

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OK, let's dodge all of that and get a job without going to school? Now we're making minimum wage, and trying to pay for transportation and funding.


Minimum wage? That's unlikely. With almost any effort at all you can get a job that pays better than that. All you need is a semi-professional demeanor and a good work ethic. That's not to say it's easy to get by on 10$ or 11$ an hour, but we're talking about minimum wage.
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Add a sudden accident or disability or child to this, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to get ground back. This isn't people being lazy, stupid, or incapable. It's people being unable to afford the high cost of living, or paying the ridiculous fee for a piece of paper that allows you to work in a wealthy field.


Well, granted, but that's a different situation. This is definitely an opportunity that charity and other programs should be in place to deal with. No one expects the market to deal with that.

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Unmonitored industry would further destroy our economy, and nothing about economics is going to disagree with that statement. Nowhere will you hear the phrase "Monopolies help everyone in a society." Monopolies go AGAINST the grain of a society, destroying it from the ground up.


No one is saying that there should be no regulations. Just better ones that restrict growth less in the wrong areas.

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We're going to look like a lot of African countries in a few years, if things keep going in this direction. Big government buildings full of delegates all handing money back and forth between eachother, killing dissenters, and using "Freedom" as a justification for everything.


Heh, not for a while I hope. Most of Africa's problems are rooted in massive corruption and a total lack of even the expectation or foundation of justice. I don't deny that we may be headed that way, but I think that no matter what happens it will be a very long time before things get that bad. Really, human civilization itself looks to be heading for the first major dip since the reformation.
2008-02-01, 7:52 PM #84
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Yes, just as soon as you learn to distinguish facts from reasoning.


what.
SnailIracing:n(500tpostshpereline)pants
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2008-02-01, 8:16 PM #85
Obi_kwiet; Owning himself all the time ever since trying to prove squirrels on islands are proof of of god. I mean, how the heck else did they get there?
2008-02-02, 5:37 AM #86
:popcorn:
Wikissassi sucks.
2008-02-02, 6:44 AM #87
I believe that the federal government should not regulate me if I decide to fill this thread with pictures from Laissez's Fair; ITS A STATE MATTER.
Stuff
2008-02-02, 10:35 AM #88
[Enjoy the ban :awesome: - Roach]
VTEC just kicked in, yo!
2008-02-02, 11:51 AM #89
Banned much?
nope.
2008-02-02, 11:54 AM #90
Originally posted by Echoman:
what.


This.
2008-02-02, 5:27 PM #91
Aw man, was it atleast a good post?
2008-02-02, 5:36 PM #92
No, not really.

Oh, and I second Echoman's "what."
omnia mea mecum porto
2008-02-02, 5:41 PM #93
I SHOULD BE THE JUDGE OF THAT!


But anyways.

Back to Obi_Kwiet's many attempts at semantics that fail and make him look like an ***.
2008-02-02, 6:01 PM #94
I believe the word you are looking for is "rob-hole", and if you really can't tell the difference between fact and reason, there is no point in continuing the "discussion" any further.
2008-02-02, 6:17 PM #95
Hey guys since I can't convince you that my position is the correct one, I'm leaving the conversation. I just wanted to let you all know this makes me better and smarterer than you guys.

So bye.
2008-02-02, 6:20 PM #96
ron paul looks funny

(its the nose and ears..and his huhuhuh laugh
Holy soap opera Batman. - FGR
DARWIN WILL PREVENT THE DOWNFALL OF OUR RACE. - Rob
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2008-02-02, 8:20 PM #97
Originally posted by Rob:
Hey guys since I can't convince you that my position is the correct one, I'm leaving the conversation. I just wanted to let you all know this makes me better and smarterer than you guys.

So bye.


Hi, I'm rob and equivocate between trolling and poor ad hominem arguments so I never have to defend my position. Then when people catch on, I make fun of them for leaving the pissing contest.

(Damn, this is childish. Your move.)
2008-02-02, 8:53 PM #98
Rob wins.
2008-02-02, 9:08 PM #99
And you are the wind beneath his wings.
2008-02-02, 9:10 PM #100
But if he's on a conveyor belt Rob won't go anywhere.
SnailIracing:n(500tpostshpereline)pants
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2008-02-02, 9:25 PM #101
Ofcourse he won't. He has to load the plane with UPS boxes.
nope.
2008-02-03, 8:09 AM #102
I actually don't really load the plane anymore.

Right now I just ensure containers are locked into place, record information from the placard, and do internal audits.

I'm also semi-responsible for the set up of the aircraft when my shift starts. The mechanic on duty lets me start the pumps and open the doors under supervision, to let me get a little experience.

I only load containers or load the plane directly when they're short on people.


Oh, but I did bust my *** on a belt loader the other day. I guess that counts.
2008-02-03, 11:05 AM #103
That's what my dad did back in the eighties during the recession. He had to load rhinos once.
2008-02-03, 11:18 AM #104
Uhhh huh.
2008-02-03, 11:24 AM #105
*Unintelligible grunts*
2008-02-03, 11:28 AM #106
Hey now silver spoon.

Don't you know the grunting is left to us working po folk, who don't deserve a good wage because the top 10% aren't truely obligated to care?
2008-02-03, 11:36 AM #107
Psh, anyone below the top 2.5% is a looser, and deserves to be poor.
2008-02-03, 11:37 AM #108
And you are in the top 2.5%?
2008-02-03, 11:38 AM #109
The top 2.5% most intelligent people...

with down syndrome.


BAZING.
2008-02-03, 12:06 PM #110
Rob has a first best friend.
2008-02-03, 12:16 PM #111
I like Tiberium_Empire about as much as you like them dirty po people.
2008-02-03, 12:18 PM #112
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Rob has a first best friend.


They're actually sitting in the same bed. On laptops. Naked. High fiving every time they make a good burn.




JUST LIKE US.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2008-02-03, 12:19 PM #113
The only person I was on the bed naked with today was your mother.

She was on top of my lap, so I guess you're like 1/4 right.
2008-02-03, 12:25 PM #114
Originally posted by Rob:
The only person I was on the bed naked with today was your mother.

She was on top of my lap, so I guess you're like 1/4 right.


Rob, I just talked to your mom while she was on my lap and she said that was her! D:
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2008-02-03, 12:26 PM #115
You should probably see a doctor about your busted *** hips.

My mommas fat and ugly like the bad lady from The Goonies.


But unlike you, I don't have a problem telling *****es apart, totally was railing yo momma like a freight train.
2008-02-03, 12:27 PM #116
Originally posted by Rob:
But unlike you, I don't have a problem telling *****es apart, totally was railing yo momma like a freight train.


Well I guess when you're keeping track of as many ladies as I am it's hard to keep track.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2008-02-03, 12:28 PM #117
The only reason you're having so much trouble is because the fat *****es keep getting counted twice.

That and you're too dumb to count.
2008-02-03, 12:33 PM #118
This. Yes. This is what a political discussion thread on Massassi should be.
Stuff
2008-02-03, 12:34 PM #119
Yeah, beaten to a bloody stupid pulp.

Just like your mom.



(Is this can be now a your mom thread? It'd actually be more intelligent than the subject)
2008-02-03, 12:38 PM #120
I saw Obi_Kwiet getting it on with Tiberium_Empire's mom. He stopped because he couldn't find a penis on her.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
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