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10 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul, with citations.

http://wwjv4.com/republicans/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-ron-paul-159

Another solid example of Rob letting some idiot throw a spin on everything for him. D:

Seriously Rob, do you even read this stuff? Some of these "commentaries" are about common issues. The others are either terribly slanted or not even true.

Did you read them?

Can you read? I guess you're reading this?

How are your comprehension skills?

But Rob, many of those points are all assumptions. They assume that abolishing minimum wage is a bad thing, when there is more than enough of an argument that abolishing minimum wage would be good. They say that getting rid of affirmative action is bad, when there is more than enough of an argument that affirmative action is a terrible system that in the end is even bad for minorities. This site assumes that gun control is needed, when there are plenty of arguments around that gun control is bad and is not needed. The examples go on with education and such.

what you basically have posted is the "Top 10 reasons that I and others who agree with me are not voting for Ron Paul". Almost every single one of those issues has a counter-argument just as valid as theirs.

Oh hey, another captain silverspoon. :downs:

(*pst. Rob's haphazard opinions are secondary to his desire to cripple threads.)

Rob doesn't defend his opinions, he just acts like he's been trolling all along if he's backed into a corner. He's just bitter because his mommy never loved him.

You guys aren't really countering anything, just so you know.

It's because we already countered you before in this thread. Time passing doesn't make you any less wrong.

Anytime someone wants to get in a reasonable conversation with you, you retreat to your "Oh I'm so clever just like Penn and Teller" trolling. It's one thing to do that if all you care about is trolling, but you do it to get out of defending your position.

I know I'm not countering anything. The point remains though that your "top 10 reasons not to vote for ron paul" are completely opinionated, and have an obvious slant to them, and are no way "official". I was merely pointing out that any of the arguments posed in that list can EASILY be countered, but this thread isn't about those issues presented.

You guys didn't so much as really TOUCH anything, except to say "Oh, this is just what YOU guys all think lololololololol"

"I don't accept evolution as a theory" - Ron Paul

There, who needs 10 reasons not to vote for him when you can have one really good one. I mean, wow, he's supposed to be a doctor isn't he? So he went through med school and would have had to take substantial numbers of advanced biology classes? I understand why someone who's never taken a biology lesson in their lives can believe in creationism over evolution, but I don't get this guy.

(If I can't derail the thread by posting pictures then I'm going to derail it by attempting to jumpstart the most heated internet debate since "plane on a treadmill")

i was told to come *** up this thread.

so

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Oh look: a ****ing moron who appears to be nothing but a drain on society and those around him. I'd love to know what happened to you as a child that turned you into the incomparable jackass that you are today. Prolly would scare me ****less.

dude nubs you have a lot of anger you should get that checked

I'd like to know what childhood event causes you to get so upset over internet (serious business) when I accuse someone of never having to live a hard day in their life.

You also sound alot like someone who has never had to worry about being incredibly poor.

Yeah, what a terrible thing. He'll probably make a law that creation is fact.

There are a lot of people have a lot of education in biology who don't believe in evolution. In fact, one of the reasons I'm on the fence about the issue is that I don't have a whole lot of education on the issue. It seems like there is a whole lot of whining and bashing creationists, for an issue that is fairly irrelevant to modern society outside of its philosophical implications. And it's those philosophical implications that make the assumption that anyone can be totally unbiased about the issue, ridiculous.


It's ok, rob, just because you couldn't get love from your mommy doesn't mean you have to take it out on everyone else.

So wait wait wait wait.

Your excuse for not believing in evolution is basically the lazyness you'd accuse those lowly po-folk of?

i'm going to assume you believe the things you do because you got too much love from mommy. i mean damn.

I guess you'd know all about getting too much love from mommy.

...Did you just imply he slept with your mom?

she was a fighter until the donkey punch

ron paul is insane.

Is this true because I really don't think short people should be in public office. Sorry kirbs.

This link proves that people who vote for Ron Paul are, in general, 15 IQ points behind other voters.

EPIC.

This is a clear example of where you haven't even remotely thought this through or grasped the impact of Paul's statement.

Firstly, the evolution debate consists of one side proposing a theory that was formed due to observations in the natural world (not an anti-Xtian conspiracy) and on the other is a varied gaggle of people all worried that it makes their religion untrue because they can't treat their entire holy book as literal otherwise. Which of those is the one pushing an agenda? As a scientific theory it has as little to do with philosophy any more than say, electromagnetism.

Secondly, evolution has a broad impact within biology and as a concept it's been an eye opener in other areas: for example self-generating or evolving software. Most importantly in terms of direct uses, it helps us to explain and understand antibiotic resistance in microbes. Belief in evolution is a good litmus test for politicians as to whether they're going to listen to evidence or if they'd rather follow their religion as narrowly as possible in the face of that evidence.

Thirdly, Ron Paul is a doctor and as kyle90 says, he must have taken a lot of advanced biology lessons and still he's quacky enough not to believe in it. This is a man who would like to be POTUS; who'd potentially be making decisions on things like stem cell research, science education etc and at the very least holding the power of veto over them.

PS of all the people to make jokes about mommies, it's rich coming from the home-schooled boy who is inevitably mostly regurgitating half his mother's views.

Pity it's already over. (Did McCain get it? I am too lazy to check.)



Oh, good. Remove a horrible system that encourages companies to promote people just because they are a minority, and fix the biggest problem with immigration too.



There is, actually, no scientific evidence that life does NOT begin at conception. There is no agreement to be had on the issue of abortion : Either you think the fetus is a human life, or you don't. Here's a clue : Those of us who are pro-life aren't taking rights away from the mother, we are granting them to the baby. Yeah, we can spin too, *****es.



Bravo again. And another tip: The lower class makes minimum wage. Working class people make substantially more. Even unskilled labor does not work for minimum wage, unless they are illegal.



10%? I'd take that. It's less than I pay now, and I sure as hell aint rich. Yeah, because taking more from people who have more sure is fair too.



Actually, doing many of the things environmentalists fight against - say, building more nuclear power plants - would greatly reduce the amount of polution.



Good. The UN is a corrupt, idiotic, cowardly piece of ****, and we should have no part in anything it does.



The normal arguments against gay marriage apply. And here's the kicker : No one has a constitutional right to marry. NO ONE. He is for making it a states issue. If a state wants to have gay marriage, fine. If it doesn't, ALSO FINE.



Yeah, and the second amendment has it's place, too. There's a reason it's there, and if you don't know why we need guns : Go back and look over what happened after Katrina a bit more.



Putting words in Paul's mouth. All he is saying is that it is just as wrong to bus minority students out to a primarily white school as it is to forbid minority students who live by that school to attend it. If the neighborhood is mostly minority, than the school will be mostly minority. This isn't segregation, it's geography. As for the other issue : Yeah, private schools work better, period. They spend far less money per student, yet get much better results. The secret? Discipline. Pumping money into schools isn't the answer. If it was, we wouldn't have such ****ty schools.




First, lets disregard the fact that there actually is no such thing as 'separation of church and state'. What Paul is *****ing about is things like cities that tell their residents they can't have a kresh on their front lawns. It seems, more and more, that you can display any religion you want, any way you want, unless it happens to be Christian. He is not forcing his beliefs on anyone. What he is doing is trying to stop everyone else from forcing their beliefs on Christians. They have just as much right to be Christian as you have to not be, and, furthermore, every parent has a say in what the public school system teaches their children. It is just as wrong to say that intelligent design cannot be taught as it is to say that evolution cannot be taught.
Oh, also. There is no such thing as 'separation of church and state'.


For the record, I am no longer Christian enough to comfortably claim I am, I don't own a gun, I've attended both public and private schools, and my mother is a raging left wing nut, so I'm not regurgitating her views either. PS, believing in intelligent design is like believing God is an idiot.

Taochristahanukabballibuddhistazis are a state issue. Ron Paul 2008.

Whoa whoa whoa, last time your country thought things similar to this it contributed to World War 2.

Did you really just blame the US for WWII? Did that just happen?

No, I said it contributed towards it.

It honestly did, bloody US setting up then not joining the league of nations.

No there aren't. No one with a biology degree doubts evolution in the slightest. The only ones that do got their degrees in the mail.

No, you're separated on the issue because you were indoctrinated by fundies and your mind is having trouble letting go of the core values that were instilled in your head as a child.

Oh, and to be fair kyle, it sounded, at least to me, that Ron Paul was riding the fence so as to not upset either side. That doesn't make it right, but still.

If by contributed you mean we defended ourselves from Axis attack inside our own borders, then we can agree. Our involvement in WWII wasn't because of some dip**** philosophy about international cooperation.