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The official Presidential Elections thread
2008-11-02, 9:45 PM #1
First and foremost, any and all attacks/flames will be met with strict and swift punishment. You will receive one warning for improper behavior, after which you will be banned until after the elections. Let's keep it clean, shall we?

This thread is to discuss, argue, and debate freely the positions of the two major candidates, Sen. John McCain and Sen. Barack Obama. Feel free to ask questions and to comment on others. Apply liberal use of references where possible.

The topic is not closed to our friends abroad who are interested in the elections.

I know there isn't much time left before the polls, but better late than never, right? So let's get started!

(By the way: the poll above is private!)

Live election map courtesy of Google: http://maps.google.com/help/maps/elections/#2008_election (Live coverage begins 6PM EST)
2008-11-02, 9:49 PM #2
woohoo 100% vote rate for obama so far!

:ninja:

[EDIT: Oh snap, 33%/66% now :(]
DO NOT WANT.
2008-11-02, 9:57 PM #3
Ha! As of right now Mcain is winning.

I'll be voting 3rd party.
2008-11-02, 9:59 PM #4
Bob Barr, wooooo!
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2008-11-02, 10:00 PM #5
i'm voting for Walken in 08
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2008-11-02, 10:03 PM #6
http://www.johnmccain.com/undecided/compare.htm

Hahahaha, I love it.
2008-11-02, 10:08 PM #7
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Ha! As of right now Mcain is winning.

I'll be voting 3rd party.


You're in tulsa county, right?
Warhead[97]
2008-11-02, 10:13 PM #8
Originally posted by Vin:
http://www.johnmccain.com/undecided/compare.htm

Hahahaha, I love it.
I doubt the target audience of that page can even use the Internet.
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2008-11-02, 10:25 PM #9
i'm not voting. i work that day and will probably sleep in. :)
Peace is a lie
There is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall set me free
2008-11-03, 3:55 AM #10
Originally posted by The_Lost_One:
i'm not voting. i work that day and will probably sleep in. :)
Billions of people since the dawn of oppression would lynch you for forfeiting a right they fought and died for
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2008-11-03, 4:29 AM #11
I turn 25 next month and have not voted in one election since I turned 18. I don't think I'm registered to vote. That said, I'm shooting for Obama.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2008-11-03, 4:51 AM #12
I'm never voting for a democrat or a republican ever again.
2008-11-03, 10:37 AM #13
Originally posted by Vin:
http://www.johnmccain.com/undecided/compare.htm

Hahahaha, I love it.


I'm going to save this. When people ask me why I did not vote for Mcain, I will show them this. What a douche.
2008-11-03, 10:52 AM #14
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
I'm going to save this. When people ask me why I did not vote for Mcain, I will show them this. What a douche.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Because Obama's is so much better. :v:
2008-11-03, 11:07 AM #15
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Because Obama's is so much better. :v:
It's obviously biased, but it's nowhere near as idiotic as McCain's.
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2008-11-03, 11:29 AM #16
Originally posted by Fardreamer:
Billions of people since the dawn of oppression would lynch you for forfeiting a right they fought and died for


For some reason I doubt it.

They fought so that we can say, "No I don't want to vote" if we want too. That's the whole point.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-11-03, 12:45 PM #17
Quote:
Billions of people since the dawn of oppression would lynch you for forfeiting a right they fought and died for
....are you being serious or should I be hearing a "Whooosh!" directly over my head right now?

Quote:
I turn 25 next month and have not voted in one election since I turned 18. I don't think I'm registered to vote. That said, I'm shooting for Obama.
I bet there are a few white supremacists also saying that.
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2008-11-03, 12:58 PM #18
Canadian. If I were US though, not sure, I don't know much about them.

Sounds like Obama is the good guy this time, maybe him.
2008-11-03, 1:15 PM #19
I.m not American, but I would vote for Obama over McCain. America failed pretty hard by re-electing Bush, and unfortunately it's still possible that they'll fail again by electing McCain.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2008-11-03, 1:35 PM #20
I love when people that aren't from America give their opinion on who they think should run our country. Most of you outside the US only hear what the main stream, and drive by media have to say. Same places these polls are coming from.

But anyway, I found this on the web.. maybe it's helpful? Based on it though, I choose McCain.
Attachment: 20453/VoterGuide.jpg (94,435 bytes)
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-11-03, 1:37 PM #21
Not American, but I sure hope you all have enough sense to vote Obama in.
The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.
2008-11-03, 1:46 PM #22
Originally posted by Spork:
Not American, but I sure hope you all have enough sense to vote Obama in.


Looks like some do.

Anyways, I'm not voting for a president, just the local propositions.
2008-11-03, 1:48 PM #23
Zan, that chart did help some. I now dislike McCain more for not supporting gay pride/education at all. Douche. :/
DO NOT WANT.
2008-11-03, 1:55 PM #24
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Because Obama's is so much better. :v:


Well, for starters, I'm not voting for Obama. Also, it's a political advertisement. You expect bias, but that was just insulting.

Originally posted by BobTheMasher:
You're in tulsa county, right?


I wish. My family and I moved to Louisville, KY about a year ago.
2008-11-03, 2:01 PM #25
[joke]

Zan, you're an anti gay.

[/joke]

:P

Based on that pic, I still chose Obama. Not like I can vote for him though, and I really don't give a **** who you guys chose to run your country. It's your country. Just make sure he doesn't **** with our country.
2008-11-03, 2:06 PM #26
I'm not anti gay ;).. honestly I'd like to see McCain support some of that stuff.. but it's all about the party and what they want to support. Unfortunately those issues aren't as important to me as say like, the assault weapon ban. It's about our freedoms. Homosexuals still have freedoms. But when they start taking our guns away they are taking away our freedoms from all of us, black, white, gay, massassian, ect..

If Obama wins, I'm going on a gun buying spree.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-11-03, 2:10 PM #27
lol, you focus too much on guns. I personally don't see any good in guns, except for countering it's own bads (and perhaps a few others.)

But whatever, I'd actually like to be able to buy guns. It'd make me one hell of a happy film-maker.
2008-11-03, 2:19 PM #28
Originally posted by Fardreamer:
Billions of people since the dawn of oppression would lynch you for forfeiting a right they fought and died for


Screw 'em.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-03, 2:23 PM #29
Originally posted by Xzero:
lol, you focus too much on guns. I personally don't see any good in guns, except for countering it's own bads (and perhaps a few others.)

But whatever, I'd actually like to be able to buy guns. It'd make me one hell of a happy film-maker.


well how you feel, or how anyone feels about them.. doesn't matter. It's a constitutional right to bear arms.. Then people will argue that they are assault weapons and no body needs to own one of those.. Next, it's 50 cals and 10 gauge shot guns. Then its .45 and sub compacts. Then it's semi auto.. Where is it going to stop?
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-11-03, 2:25 PM #30
People who buy guns aren't necessarily going to go on a killing spree. Could be they just find them interesting and like to collect, like I collect knives. Doesn't mean I fantasize about stabbing people. Therefore I don't see a real problem.
DO NOT WANT.
2008-11-03, 2:36 PM #31
i own alot of guns and i don't go around shooting people



i prefer to use my bare hands
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2008-11-03, 2:45 PM #32
electoral>popular

@zell: do you keep them sharp, just in case?
Peace is a lie
There is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall set me free
2008-11-03, 2:47 PM #33
Just because Obama doesn't agree with our firearm laws doesn't mean he's going to try and take the guns away from you. He's said so himself.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2008-11-03, 2:51 PM #34
Well he probably wont I realize this. He wouldn't be able to in 8 years, but I can see further down the line years later. A simple ban now, could turn into banning all in the future.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2008-11-03, 2:54 PM #35
Originally posted by The_Lost_One:
electoral>popular


I would vote if we had a popular election. Alas, I much prefer to spend that half hour tomorrow doing something not wholly pointless.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2008-11-03, 2:54 PM #36
Originally posted by The_Lost_One:
electoral>popular

@zell: do you keep them sharp, just in case?


No, they're quite dull. I do use one for work, and I keep that fairly sharp, though.
DO NOT WANT.
2008-11-03, 3:48 PM #37
Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
I love when people that aren't from America give their opinion on who they think should run our country. Most of you outside the US only hear what the main stream, and drive by media have to say. Same places these polls are coming from.

But anyway, I found this on the web.. maybe it's helpful? Based on it though, I choose McCain.

I'm not sure I trust that chart, cause I'm pretty sure Obama doesn't favor the immediate withdrawal, although he might have at some point
2008-11-03, 4:01 PM #38
I don't like the way Bob Barr was lumped in with all write-in candidates.

The reason people's votes don't matter is because they think their votes don't matter. If you got over this idea that you HAVE to vote for one of the two, otherwise you're throwing your vote away, we would have a viable third party tomorrow. And then we could get rid of all this bull****, and people would actually have a chance to vote for someone they agree with, and not waste their time figuring out which of the 'only two that stand a chance' they disagree with less.

Two candidates just isn't enough.
2008-11-03, 4:05 PM #39
Incidentally. Obama canceled his rally in Manassas VA, which I was going to check out, because his grandmother died. That douche. :argh:
2008-11-03, 5:11 PM #40
Originally posted by Zell:
People who buy guns aren't necessarily going to go on a killing spree. Could be they just find them interesting and like to collect, like I collect knives. Doesn't mean I fantasize about stabbing people. Therefore I don't see a real problem.


Lol, never said they would.

I am saying though, that those who do, will have the tools to do so.

Anyway, I'm off to the crap posting thread, this isn't my area :P
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