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Stop moving so I can shoot you! (TF2)
2009-05-22, 3:52 PM #201
This new unlock system is bollocks.

I got the medic saw upgrade by setting a scout on fire?
nope.
2009-05-22, 3:54 PM #202
I'm not sure what system was in place before, but I got a Scout baseball upgrade for whatever it was I did playing as a medic for an hour or so. And I hadn't even tried playing as a Scout yet.

BTW, thanks for all the tips in the thread, especially the one about concentrating on one class at a time. Really helped me get into the game a little bit more.
幻術
2009-05-22, 3:57 PM #203
The new unlock system is pretty much 'you will get random unlocks completely at random'
一个大西瓜
2009-05-22, 4:02 PM #204
I think we should have a quick makeshift massassi game later.

Or rather get a bunch of us on the same server. :P
nope.
2009-05-22, 4:06 PM #205
I'm gonna be on my usual server(s) so if you see me on feel free to join me (I'm in the Massassi Steam Group ... nick is Wing)
一个大西瓜
2009-05-22, 4:10 PM #206
Oh I know, but Wing is never online. :P
nope.
2009-05-22, 4:59 PM #207
I'm still working ~_~ I'll be on in a bit
一个大西瓜
2009-05-22, 6:43 PM #208
I can't wait to try the updates. I haven't been able to play since the engineer update. My gf is downloading the game to her laptop for me right now so I can play it when I get to her house tomorrow night. I wuv her.
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I'll never hear a word you say
2009-05-22, 6:45 PM #209
Yeah. instead of going to her house for sex, it's for TF2.
A true nerd you are. (Not that i'm not.)
2009-05-22, 6:54 PM #210
you're pretty dumb

2009-05-22, 8:00 PM #211
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
Yeah. instead of going to her house for sex, it's for TF2.
A true nerd you are. (Not that i'm not.)


Whats better than Sex before TF2? Sex before AND after TF2....
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2009-05-22, 8:23 PM #212
I dunno, the new unlock system isnt so bad. They mentioned in the article on the website that it helps prevent people from going into achievement servers and getting all the weapons right away.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2009-05-22, 8:29 PM #213
Well I've played all day and have... a new watch. Plenty of people haven't gotten anything, not even weapons they already have (I also got the Blutsager).

One guy said he got 5 flare guns in a row, one other guy claimed he got like 4 jarates in 3 minutes.

2009-05-22, 8:33 PM #214
I've only played Halo in the past couple years.
I only have the Xbox Orange Box so I don't know about the updates...
BUUUT

From ALOT of games I have seen ..... It seems people who are better/spend more time on the game ....... get better stuff. WTF is up with that?
2009-05-22, 8:36 PM #215
I played alot recently to check out the update. I still haven't even got ONE item given to me. Not even an old weapon.

I just want the Ambassador.

Originally posted by mb:
I dunno, the new unlock system isnt so bad. They mentioned in the article on the website that it helps prevent people from going into achievement servers and getting all the weapons right away.


I rather grind instead of being randomly given. I've seen people with 20 hours of play since update only given 1 already-obtained item.
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2009-05-22, 8:55 PM #216
Originally posted by ECHOMAN:
This new unlock system must be borked. I haven't got one NEW item as of late.


I got a backburner and a sandvich.

Apparently you "find" items randomly, instead of just grinding in an FPS for inane "achivements".
2009-05-22, 9:07 PM #217
The Cloak and Dagger is nice. Shorter cloak time, but if you stand still you can't be seen. Usually when running away from pursuers I can cloak and back into a corner... and they run right by me, meleeing all over the place. Fun! Then I just wait until they leave and run off.

2009-05-22, 9:12 PM #218
Originally posted by mb:
I dunno, the new unlock system isnt so bad. They mentioned in the article on the website that it helps prevent people from going into achievement servers and getting all the weapons right away.


I don't understand why people complain about this.
COUCHMAN IS BACK BABY
2009-05-22, 9:15 PM #219
It isn't game-breaking at all and it hardly influences TF2 gameplay at its core, it's just annoying.
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2009-05-22, 9:22 PM #220
I think it was more annoying to have to play for hours and hours and hours to possibly get even one achievement. If getting them were more realistic, I'd love to do them legitimately.

But I just don't have time to play 40 hours a week to get 100 some achievements just so I can properly rig my character for competition. It'd be different if all of the updates were just slightly better weapons: I'd understand a system for "earning" them. BF Heroes comes to mind since I've been playing that so much. Instead, each item is significantly different, and changes gameplay.

I NEVER play as the spy unless I know the enemy team isn't very good at spy checking and I can get a bunch of good backstabs in, but I'm almost certain the cloak and dagger would change the way I play the Spy, and would likely cause me to use it far more often. That said, I'm not going to play a considerable amount of time just to get this item.

Then again, I think this is their idea of marketing, and keeping people playing their game well after its hype has died down. I wonder if the new system is more tolerable, or if the "random" doling out is just a different way of getting you to play for extended period of time, making it just as annoying.
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2009-05-22, 9:31 PM #221
Im not aiming to get the achievements, I just get them when I do :P
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2009-05-22, 9:59 PM #222
what mb said
My girlfriend paid a lot of money for that tv; I want to watch ALL OF IT. - JM
2009-05-22, 10:03 PM #223
lets ****ing play already. i want to own all yall like i owned yall in FEAR MP.
2009-05-22, 11:04 PM #224
latis and i are in a game... but he plays on a laggy, custom map server. come on, no one's on.
2009-05-22, 11:05 PM #225
What is your steam name?

Coming
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2009-05-22, 11:17 PM #226
I just got off a reallly long play session haha

I got the Jarate within the first hour or so and Cloak and Dagger a few hrs later. Haven't gotten anything else.

Jarate is a lot of fun and pretty useful. I like it.

C+D is SORT of what I had envisioned, but the cloak drains so ****ing fast and since you can't pick up metal to replenish the end result is a dramatically slower style of play (which is maybe what they envisioned ... but it gets sorta boring =/). I was basically inching along in crouch and camping in hard-to-run-into spots for 80% of my time and just sitting there waiting for the opportune moment to backstab a sniper or a medic or an engi or sap something. If you're going for lots of backstab kills, it doesn't really help you because it penalizes movement so you have to rely on disguises more... in which case why not just use the regular cloak, since you can pick up guns/metal to keep moving.
一个大西瓜
2009-05-23, 6:11 AM #227
How could valve screw up something so perfect...now good players won't be awarded at all...

SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNISM TO ME
2009-05-23, 7:13 AM #228
played til 4am after not playing since the scout update, got the krietzkrieg, sandman, and huntsman. I really like the huntsman, lots of fun pinning people, I pinned a medic at the neck or shoulder level onto a doorframe :D
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2009-05-23, 9:50 AM #229
Originally posted by mb:
Im not aiming to get the achievements, I just get them when I do :P


I haven't gotten anything still.

This sucks.
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2009-05-23, 9:59 AM #230
The new payload racing maps kind of suck. It really makes some classes useless, and if you get even a little behind, your team loses and no one tries.
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2009-05-23, 10:21 AM #231
Originally posted by JediKirby:
The new payload racing maps kind of suck. It really makes some classes useless, and if you get even a little behind, your team loses and no one tries.

If you had played Wacky Racers you'd know how wrong you were :colbert:
D E A T H
2009-05-23, 10:32 AM #232
Originally posted by JediKirby:
The new payload racing maps kind of suck. It really makes some classes useless, and if you get even a little behind, your team loses and no one tries.


You're crazy. It's absolutely :awesome:. It requires teamwork, and I don't see how any classes are rendered useless by this:

1. Spies can absolutely destroy people not paying attention pushing the cart.
2. Snipers can snipe people off the cart at will from behind.
3. Soldiers can push entire groups of people off the cart.
4. Heavies can stall the cart as well as push it significantly.
5. Scouts can obviously 2x the cart speed, and are awesome at picking off snipers.
6. Pyros are also great at clearing carts.
7. Demomen are always useful for destroying entrenched engineers.
8. Medics are practically required.
9. One engineer can really make a difference on this map, especially when the enemy is close to winning.
2009-05-23, 11:05 AM #233
I need in on this Massassi Steam group. Steam ID is 'geebeekay'.
And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.
2009-05-23, 11:34 AM #234
The part in the new Payload map where you push the two bombs up the hill side-by-side is the best. So frantic.
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2009-05-23, 12:44 PM #235
Got the axtinguisher, the huntsman, and the kritzkrieg! But now I'm tired.
2009-05-23, 1:46 PM #236
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
From ALOT of games I have seen ..... It seems people who are better/spend more time on the game ....... get better stuff. WTF is up with that?


It's called an unlock, you get things for doing something and they've been part of computer games almost since the beginning.

Unfortunately they were killed by epenis 360 owners that seem to think OHMYGODIGOTANACHIEVEMENT is enough, so nobody bothers putting them in games anymore.

:colbert:
nope.
2009-05-23, 3:02 PM #237
Dead ringer is awesome. Looks so much more fun than the C+D has been (for me, at least). Fits in w/ the faster-paced Spy style that the original cloak encouraged.



Edit: It has 90% (?) damage reduction so you can survive backstabs and sniper headshots if you're at full health. And you don't flicker when you run into people. :awesome:
一个大西瓜
2009-05-23, 3:31 PM #238
Can other people see when you have the dr out?
COUCHMAN IS BACK BABY
2009-05-23, 3:35 PM #239
He was disguised most of the time in that vid, so I don't think they could tell. They might(?) be able to see it if you're not disguised.
一个大西瓜
2009-05-23, 4:40 PM #240
So is the idea that you only have limited space for all of your ****?
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