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Guy chases cop for speeding and pulls HIM over
2009-06-13, 4:52 PM #161
Originally posted by herb:
Not according to [url]www.apa.org/journals/releases/psp845960.pdf[/url]

Feel free to cite a contradicting peer reviewed study.


You've gotta be ****tin' me.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2009-06-13, 5:04 PM #162
Whats with all the necromacy lately?
2009-06-13, 5:11 PM #163
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
Whats with all the necromacy lately?


It's a sick, sick world.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2009-06-13, 5:11 PM #164
cause making a new thread would have been a waste of time to rebuttle. plud its not that old. murder cases in the seventies are still being solved today

2009-06-13, 10:29 PM #165
cold cases ...fun
I'm proud of my life and the things that I have done, proud of myself and the loner I've become.
2009-06-13, 10:53 PM #166
lawl, its within 2 weeks
Holy soap opera Batman. - FGR
DARWIN WILL PREVENT THE DOWNFALL OF OUR RACE. - Rob
Free Jin!
2009-06-14, 12:22 AM #167
Originally posted by Freelancer:
The police are there to make sure we don't smash Starbucks' windows in when we get fed up with how much we're getting ****ed up the *** by the system every day and decide to riot. They're there to make sure that morally upright people are stripped of all their freedoms for smoking a goddamn plant. ...

Sorry to disappoint you, JLee, but I have no intention whatsoever of 'getting rich.' I instead choose to be rich in the areas of life that actually matter. ...


Oh my God... why can't you be one of those chill but indignant liberals instead of one of those abrasive and totally obnoxious ones? Seriously, go smoke your weed in a basement and stop bothering people. Or, unplug from the society that you seem to hate so much and GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

If what you say is true, you are at odds with a dispassionate system that is legion in number, armed to the teeth, and resource-rich. It shapes the hearts and minds of MILLIONS of people. You, Freelancer, can oppose but will not defeat this system, nor will you change it such that it significantly "betters" (in terms of your stated convictions as I grasp them) your life or the lives of those around you, let alone the lives of all societal actors.

Any contribution or change you may make will be a momentary, local blip on the radar. You are wasting your and our time.

The only other things I have to say are: JLee, thank you again for your service. And that guy in the video was a well-intentioned but totally barbaric douche.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
1473 for '1337' posts.
2009-06-14, 1:09 AM #168
The point of his is to make that local blip burn as brightly as it can so that he can leave a mark on the screen, it doesn't matter if its a stupid and useless mark, just a mark.
2009-06-14, 7:43 AM #169
Originally posted by Avenger:
Feeling is not the same as doing.


I am not sure how that contradicts the results of the study. Are you saying that feelings do not prompt action? I disagree with that notion. Violent feelings may not be sufficient to prompt violence, but they seem necessary.

Originally posted by Freelancer:
You've gotta be ****tin' me.


That is a very effective argumentative technique, Free. I'm impressed.

Originally posted by zanardi:
Sup hebedee


Sup man.
2009-06-14, 12:20 PM #170
Does the study indicate anything more than aggressive feelings? As in, were there any cases where subjects acted on their aggressive feelings in such a way that they became violent? No, there weren't.
Pissed Off?
2009-06-14, 12:58 PM #171
Ars has covered many peer-reviewed studies on violence in video games. I've come to the conclusion that games have an influence but is hardly black and white as viewing violence -> violent thoughts or acts. Violent games initiating the fight or flight response seems very likely (as covered in the first link):

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2006/11/8311.ars
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/01/study-violence-in-games-not-that-compelling-for-most-gamers.ars
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/06/5034.ars
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2009-06-15, 8:52 AM #172
I'm with you Emon. I think it is foolish to discard the connection, but it as I said, it is obviously not possible to say that violent video games make all people violent.
2009-06-15, 9:25 AM #173
yes i know a girl that loves to play grand theft auto while killing everyone she can anywhere, but when i'm around her shes sweet to me and other people!

2009-06-15, 10:28 AM #174
I have always had issues with the notion of videogames causing violent behavior. I've played many violent videogames in my life, but real life violence still bothers me to a great degree. I don't sit around my house dreaming up ways to go out and massacre people. It's just not level headed thinking.

The real debate for me is this: Is the violent videogamer just nuts, or is he/she viewing a 12 guage as an appropriate method of conflict resolution?

I've gotten into it with alot of people in my life. I haven't spoken to my roommate in a month for god's sake. But I don't sit around and say "You know I should just take a shotgun to that *******!" I simply choose to ignore him because I am stubborn and juvenile. But, if you can get past that, the point is, I think you must be a bit disturbed to begin with in order to take cues from a friggin' videogame on how to handle a real life situation. I don't see the USMC using Call of Duty to teach infantry tactics do you?

Many people just don't seem to understand why videogames exist. Videogames exist so people can do things which they cannot do in real life. I cannot play for the Cleveland Browns in real life, therefore I buy Madden, and I subsequently am the starting halfback for the Cleveland Browns. Easy. This doesn't mean I'm on a Greyhound to Cleveland to take Jamal Lewis's job. It's a game. It's not real. Running for 230 yards a game and pulling off awesome jukes and spin moves does not mean I can do it in real life, or would even attempt to.

But hey, if violent videogames breed violence, why not expand that to other genres?

A friend of mine is taking Kirk Hammet's job because he can play Enter Sandman on expert.

My little brother is mankind's last defense against the zombie horde.

I'll be on the highlight reels this fall in the NFL.

And FPS Doug is going to Iraq to win the war on terror.






Oh wait, that's just stuff that happens in videogames, not real life.
>>untie shoes
2009-06-15, 10:47 AM #175
You guys seem awfully angry.
"If you watch television news, you will know less about the world than if you just drink gin straight out of the bottle."
--Garrison Keillor
2009-06-15, 10:57 AM #176
**** you fishstickz.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2009-06-15, 11:00 AM #177
cops r jerks tho, amirite
2009-06-15, 11:02 AM #178
HOLY **** IT'S BILL
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2009-06-15, 11:05 AM #179
-rides the mb-
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2009-06-15, 11:20 AM #180
Here's my view on the police:

In the world, a certain percentage of the population are dicks. Certain occupations tend to be more appealing to dicks that others. A dick would rather be a Al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya (Hezbollah) militant than a puppy groomer. That's not to say all Hezbollah militants are dicks, or that there are no puppy groomer dicks, but that certain vocations are more prone to having dicks within their ranks than others.

Police Officer is one of those vocations that appeals to dicks. They can be a dick with a gun, and civilians can't do anything about it (for the most part). Now, not all cops are dicks, and not all dicks are cops. I would be willing to bet, though, that a disproportionate percentage of cops are dicks, when compared with puppy groomers or other seemingly innocuous vocations.

Additionally, cops spend much of their day dealing with dicks. Spend enough time with dicks, and one tends to pick up some of the tendencies of a dick. Further, when one deals with belligerent dicks all day, one may treat a normal, nice civilian as a dick, without doing it purposely. Also, police don't have to go to college or hold a degree. Police don't have to be particularly good at anything. Police don't even have to be smart. They just have to pass the appropriate tests during academy, which isn't extremely difficult anyway (when compared with the requirements for other professional vocations). All these of facts, working together, are what lead many people to believe that police are dicks. Certainly, many police are, in fact, dicks. Also a certainty is the fact that many police are not dicks. However, what we hear about the police from the press or through word of mouth is not "what a nice policeman I met today when I was skateboarding at the park", but about "the dick cop who was hassling me for riding my skateboard at the park".

For the most part, I appreciate the cops. If someone is shooting at my house, I'm not going outside, I'm going to call the dick cops and let them get shot instead. But, on the other hand, go to any shopping mall and you'll find at least three or four fat, lazy dick cops riding around on Segways and hassling children about spitting on the sidewalk.

What it all comes down is this: dick civilians tend to attract dick cops, though dick cops tend to be more common and more public than cops who aren't dicks.
2009-06-15, 12:18 PM #181
Originally posted by Guess:
Here's my view on the police:

In the world, a certain percentage of the population are dicks. Certain occupations tend to be more appealing to dicks that others. A dick would rather be a Al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya (Hezbollah) militant than a puppy groomer. That's not to say all Hezbollah militants are dicks, or that there are no puppy groomer dicks, but that certain vocations are more prone to having dicks within their ranks than others.

Police Officer is one of those vocations that appeals to dicks. They can be a dick with a gun, and civilians can't do anything about it (for the most part). Now, not all cops are dicks, and not all dicks are cops. I would be willing to bet, though, that a disproportionate percentage of cops are dicks, when compared with puppy groomers or other seemingly innocuous vocations.

Additionally, cops spend much of their day dealing with dicks. Spend enough time with dicks, and one tends to pick up some of the tendencies of a dick. Further, when one deals with belligerent dicks all day, one may treat a normal, nice civilian as a dick, without doing it purposely. Also, police don't have to go to college or hold a degree. Police don't have to be particularly good at anything. Police don't even have to be smart. They just have to pass the appropriate tests during academy, which isn't extremely difficult anyway (when compared with the requirements for other professional vocations). All these of facts, working together, are what lead many people to believe that police are dicks. Certainly, many police are, in fact, dicks. Also a certainty is the fact that many police are not dicks. However, what we hear about the police from the press or through word of mouth is not "what a nice policeman I met today when I was skateboarding at the park", but about "the dick cop who was hassling me for riding my skateboard at the park".

For the most part, I appreciate the cops. If someone is shooting at my house, I'm not going outside, I'm going to call the dick cops and let them get shot instead. But, on the other hand, go to any shopping mall and you'll find at least three or four fat, lazy dick cops riding around on Segways and hassling children about spitting on the sidewalk.

What it all comes down is this: dick civilians tend to attract dick cops, though dick cops tend to be more common and more public than cops who aren't dicks.


Many agencies require at least a 2yr degree or prior military experience - and 70% of applicants to Las Vegas PD don't even make it past the initial application stuff.

Out of curiosity, what other careers have comprehensive psychological evaluations, pre-employment polygraphs, extensive background checks, consistent physical fitness test requirements, etc?
woot!
2009-06-15, 2:55 PM #182
A two-year degree (most likely from a community college or a junior college) is laughable. The basic requirements are: can you drive yourself to the parking lot? and can you show up to class at least 50% of the time?

Did you even read the article you linked?
Quote:
Of the finalists for the 400 available jobs this year, a staggering 70% are expected to fail the required background and polygraph examinations for attempting to conceal a range of criminal activities, from prostitution to fraud and drug use


They didn't fail because the standards are so high, they failed because they're stupidest sonsof*****es in the city.

Also, one-time events such as polygraphs, fitness evaluations, and background checks, don't equate to daily, rigorous mental or physical activity or high-skill sets that most professional jobs require.
2009-06-15, 3:40 PM #183
I have to agree about the two-year degree bit. Make that a four year degree from nothing less than, at least, a tier 3 school and we'll talk.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2009-06-15, 4:57 PM #184
Originally posted by Guess:
A two-year degree (most likely from a community college or a junior college) is laughable. The basic requirements are: can you drive yourself to the parking lot? and can you show up to class at least 50% of the time?

Well damn, it's like that? I wonder why academy staff was so adamant that nobody was late Monday morning - and that nobody left until we were released on Friday...

Quote:
Did you even read the article you linked?

They didn't fail because the standards are so high, they failed because they're stupidest sonsof*****es in the city.

You make it sound like anyone can be a cop. The truth is that a lot of people do not qualify - per that link, only 10% of applicants even make it to the street, and not all of them make it more than a few years.

When I got my first full time position, I was told that only 5% of applicants were qualified. I don't have any statistics behind that, though.

Quote:
Also, one-time events such as polygraphs, fitness evaluations, and background checks, don't equate to daily, rigorous mental or physical activity or high-skill sets that most professional jobs require.

Continued fitness tests are required in NH. What, exactly, is the point of doing repeated background checks after someone is hired? Don't you think that a criminal conviction (or even an arrest) would come out rather quickly?

What other career fields are you comparing this to? I'm not claiming that it requires the knowledge base of, say, an attorney (though attorneys have been embarrassed by cops who know more than them) or doctor, but your insinuation that almost anyone can get in is laughable. The amount of stress can be ridiculous, too - read this.

Here's some rigorous mental or physical activity that requires a skillset outside of the general population. But that doesn't happen every day, so I guess it doesn't count, right?

I'm not elitist - but I do take offense when people have the attitude "Pfft, anybody can do that. Lazy good-for-nothing cops" - and every time it comes from someone who, most likely, hasn't even spent a day in a patrol car. Yes, there are plenty of people who shouldn't be cops. I know firsthand. However, I really don't like it when people come around and tell me what it takes to do this job. Not that you care.

$0.02
woot!
2009-06-15, 5:54 PM #185
Originally posted by JLee:
Well damn, it's like that? I wonder why academy staff was so adamant that nobody was late Monday morning - and that nobody left until we were released on Friday...

He meant to get a two-year academic degree, like from a community college.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2009-06-15, 6:46 PM #186
Originally posted by Emon:
He meant to get a two-year academic degree, like from a community college.


Ah..that makes a lot more sense.
woot!
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