I meant it in a more self-confidence building sort of way. Not confidence in beating people up but the confidence in saying **** OFF.

Read the entry for Nov 12 from this site:

http://www.kameronhurley.com/

Sorry if I'm rambling, haven't had sleep in a while (and currently on the 10th hour of a 12 hour shift).

So, what you're saying is that women should not date while on their period?

[ Reminds me of a conversation with a D&D group:

"I get a bonus when my character is bloodied."
"Roll up a female character and you'll get that once a month." ]

lol d&d in a thread about dating

:facepalm:

And miss out on all this fantastic armchair psychiatry based on glib forum postings, stereotypes and illogical reasoning? Surely you jest.

Tell me, why on earth would I take anything you've said seriously when all you've done is make stuff up? A bizarrely literal interpretation of a facetious post and you think I'm sexist against humanity? That's some solid deductive work right there and nicely melodramatic too. Shame it makes no sense, but at least your stories are imaginative.

You're getting awfully defensive about something imaginary, then.

I just don't want you to stop posting. I might miss out on something funny.

Get out.

Oh man, I lol'ed

I'm generally sexist towards man and I idealize women. It's because of my hormones, I presume. And most women like idealization once you've reached the 'girlfriend-stage'.

I still have to see one (non-gay) guy who doesn't idealize their girlfriend at the age of 16-30 ish

Anyone who's been with her longer than 5 months.

need help does make a good point though (and reinforces Jon`C's point). Males that are sexist towards males that idealize girls aren't all that rare.

Not that I'm saying there aren't guys that are sexually aggressive asses, there definitely are, they also tend to get more dates through their aggressiveness >_>

Say please and I'll consider it.

Well at least with sf_gold01 gone we have a new idiot to entertain the message boards.

All right, but what's your point then? That some men are arses? Of course they are. I'm sure you wouldn't deny that so are some women.

backpedal

This is the key statement of this entire thread. The trick to "Pre-Dating" is determining the other persons personality. For that you can generally predict the outcome of the first date BEFORE you actually go on it. If they have an aggressive personality, then guess what? They're going to be after your pants. That goes for both men and women.

Obviously there's a whole lot of gray area here, but most people are able to fine tune it over time through experiences like the one sugarless had.

Oh the irony.

You know, I seem to be the minority here, but I've dealt with aggressive women a time or two in my life, but they just get classified as whores, where as an aggressive guy is a rapist automatically and the girl should be beating him up or having him beat up.

Goddamnit, where did I read this following sentence:

"I can explain that, if you have a key that opens a lot of locks, it's considered a master key, and everyone thinks it's very cool. But if you have a lock that can be opened by a lot of keys, it's considered a pretty crappy lock."

In my experience, sexist men who idolize women are the ones who have a genuinely positive self-image and spend a huge amount of energy trying to impress "the" woman in their lives, and have extreme amounts of down time in between women. They also have a lot of female friends.

I fall into this category myself, unfortunately, but my perception is becoming more and more jaded against the general population of both men and women. I see this as a positive side effect where I am starting to see the value in myself, and the flaws in everyone else. In a perfect future, this will give me the ability to recognize the traits in women that are really a match for me.

It's quite famous on 4chan, perhaps you read it there

It's on bash as well.

Doesn't surprise me

I don't think anyone mentioned "balls", just kicking. Where they kick is purely up to her (I'd advise not the balls unless things are severe.)



Been with my GF for 4 years and I still do it >.>



Do you know me?



Most people around here aren't, or so it would seem...

I'd try telling my friends that so&so is an *** and should watch out for him. Yet they didn't believe me until **** hit the fan

Reminds me of something I like to tell overprotective guy "friends" of women I'm interested in.

"Be sure to tell her I'm an ******* and to stay away from me. It'll really help me out."

It always works.

Reverse psychology?

It estranges her from her overzealous male friend who is almost always giving her good advice by him saying I'm an ******* when I do nothing to appear to be one in her eyes.

Now, I know I wasn't mentioned specifically in the various cases of guys talking about girls who like *******s and ignore the advice of their friends, and all that, but I can't help but feel like at least some of it was implied, so allow me to defend myself on some of these points here.

a) I don't really have overprotective male friends. I have male friends, don't get me wrong, but very few of them are particularly overprotective. They're there 100% when I need them, but they generally work under the (correct) impression that I can generally take care of myself. In the event that they do offer unsolicited advice, I generally listen to them. My friends are awesome, so I don't make a habit of ignoring them.

b) I'm not attracted to jerks. In any way. Maybe I like a bit of an acerbic wit, and confidence is always attractive, but that's as far as I would say. Most of the guys I've been attracted to have been pretty good guys.

c) I wasn't particularly attracted to this fellow. He was actually a friend of a friend (said friend didn't warn me because said friend didn't know he was going to ask me out) who happened to be in town for a few days and said "hey, you wanna go see a movie?" and I said "sure, why not?"

d) I wasn't even entirely sure it was a date until I was actually on the date. (and I'd wanted to de-datify it, like I'm usually pretty good at doing, by buying my own ticket and being as platonic as possible. obviously didn't work out.)

Just as many men go for crazy b****es as women go for a**holes, so there's no need to be so bitter towards the female gender.

(wasn't directed at any one post, just the vibe I get from a collection of them)

Are you aware that all of them want to get in your pants?

If you don't like jerks then why are all the nice guys your male friends?

You weren't sure it was a date yet you weren't really acquainted with the guy. I know I ask random women I don't really know to go to the movies all the time when I don't really want to get anything out of it.

Nearly every woman I've ever dated has been a controlling *****, but I'm still not bitter toward females. I love them.

I said balls on page 1.

Seriously, I'm not saying beat the living snot out of the guy, just a swift knee in the happy sacks and leave him to writhe around on the floor for a few minutes. Lesson learned, no lasting damage done.

There was a kid at my school (or what was my school a few years ago) who took a girls pencil case, and she did exactly what you just said.

He now has 1 testicle and he's 16.

Nice guys finish last

When you run out of gas

I'm sorry, is there some sort of quota for the number of nice guys I can know? If I have nice friends, there aren't any left in the world for me to be interested in?



"don't really want to get anything out of it"? Charming.

I was slow on the uptake. I got it the second after I'd agreed. Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point?

No. It just makes you like every other woman who claims they like nice guys and has a stable of them as "male friends" who all are secretly in love with you and have no chance of ever seeing their desires substantiated.


Yes. If I don't want to get a second date or a relationship out of it. And, yes, I know I'm charming. It's the chief reason I've gotten laid as many times as I have.


No.

Sounds like you had a date with Pagewizard. I didn't realise he was non-fiction.

Anyway, I recommend pepper spray or castration. Whatever's cheaper.

Bugger me that's a blast from the past. I wonder what happened to Pagewizard (besides probable chemical castration)?

i thought he got religion

That or chlamidia.

So if a girl was being intrusive by rubbing her crotch against you, you could kick her swiftly in the clit?

I realize you may well answer "yes" which makes it not a double standard, though I would still be against it myself.