The point is even a person with a CCW wasn't allowed to carry a gun at that mall!

I'm not reading that propaganda.

Also, no, it didn't stop the shooter. But look at it this way, if everyone had guns, maybe MORE people could have been killed by stray bullets!

Well the fact that it's presented on the NRA website would give it inherent bias, perhaps a direct link to the article that the snippet is from?
(Not taking a side, just observing.)

WKMG, Orlando, Fla. 12/15/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 12/16/2009
Gary Wroblewski, who uses a wheelchair, was by himself in his Marion County, Fla. home, when he heard a knock at the door. The man at the door claimed to be having car trouble and asked for assistance. Wroblewski sensed something wrong and retrieved his .45 caliber pistol before opening the door. As he opened the door, Wroblewski was rushed by a second man who had been hiding in some nearby bushes. As Wroblewski fell from his wheelchair he fired three shots at the intruders, killing one and causing the other to flee. Police have called the case an act of self defense and have tracked down the suspect who fled the scene.

(Florida Today, Florida, 11/24/2009)
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 12/3/2009
A robber armed with a handgun entered a Chevron gas station in Cocoa, Fla. and demanded money from Sowann Suy, the store manager. Suy retrieved a gun from behind the counter and fired at the criminal, striking him in the abdomen and causing him to flee. The robber did not make it far, collapsing in the parking lot of the gas station. The criminal was then taken by helicopter to a local hospital and is expected to survive. Cocoa Police Officer Barbara Matthews was supportive of Suy’s actions, stating, “He absolutely had the right to defend himself.”

WFTV, Orlando, Fla. 11/20/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 11/25/2009
After someone stole lawn care equipment out of Shane Biel’s trailer, the Lake County, Fla. resident installed an alarm. A few weeks later, Brett Lee Canada attempted to break into Biel’s trailer. Upon hearing the alarm, Biel retrieved his shotgun and went to investigate. When Biel came upon Canada, the criminal lunged at him. Biel fired at Canada three times, killing him. This was not Canada’s first burglary; he had been arrested in March for a similar crime. After an investigation, the police chose not to press charges against Biel, citing the Florida Castle Doctrine. Biel’s neighbors were also supportive of his actions, with one stating, “That’s what we move to America for. To protect our stuff.”

The News Herald, Panama City, Fla. 11/19/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 11/23/2009
An intoxicated criminal attempted to break into the home of 91-year-old Robert Thompson in Lake Worth, Fla. Upon hearing the attempted break-in, Thompson and his dog Rett went to investigate. The pair made their way to the porch, where Rett subdued the burglar. Thompson then raced back inside to call the police and retrieve his gun. As Thompson came back to the porch the burglar got free from Rett and came towards him. Thompson fired a shot, which did not strike the criminal, and then held the intruder until police arrived. This was not Robert Thompson’s first time dealing with a dangerous aggressor; he is a World War II veteran who was awarded the Purple Heart.

Florida Today, Florida 11/18/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 11/20/2009
Two men entered the Gloco Grocery and Soul Food Deli owned by Willie Byrd in Melbourne, Fla. The pair ordered food, and as a ploy asked Byrd for change for a $50 bill. One of the men then drew a handgun, as the other grabbed for the cash in Byrd’s register. Byrd retrieved his .357-caliber handgun and fired at the criminals, causing them to flee. When police arrived they found one of the robbers in the parking lot of the store, wounded and still clutching the stolen money. Byrd will not face any charges according to Cmdr. Ron Bell of the Melbourne Police, who stated, “He was well within his rights.” The criminals were lucky to have fled when they did; Byrd’s daughter works at a nearby salon and after hearing the shots, she retrieved her own gun and headed to the scene.

The Herald Tribune, Sarasota, Fla. 10/26/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 10/28/2009
69-year-old Peter Gilmore and his 25-year-old son James McGlone were at home in Port Charlotte, Fla. when a pair of masked robbers, armed with a tire iron and knife, kicked in their front door. One of the masked men threatened Gilmore with his knife, causing McGlone to rush to his father’s room to retrieve a gun. McGlone was chased by the tire-iron wielding criminal, who struck him over the head with it. Despite the hit, McGlone retrieved a handgun and fired it at his attacker, striking him in the stomach, which caused him and knife-wielding accomplice to flee. A short time later, police received a report of a man with a gun shot wound seeking medical attention at a home in a nearby neighborhood. The unwounded criminal has been taken into custody and police plan to do the same with his accomplice once he is released from the hospital.

The Orlando Sentinel, Orlando, Fla. 10/15/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 10/16/2009
Anthony and Peter Julien, two immigrants from the island of Granada, came home from work one night to find the bedroom light on in their Pine Hills, Fla. home. Both Anthony and Peter retrieved their firearms and went to investigate. As Anthony went into the house through the garage, he saw two intruders, one of whom had a gun in his hand and was pointing it at him. Anthony dropped to one knee and he and Peter opened fire, killing one intruder and wounding the other. The next night neighbors came to the Julien household to show their support for the brothers. The well-wishers included a woman whose home had been robbed as well.

Naples Daily News, Naples, Fla. 10/12/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 10/15/2009
A bear attempted to gain access to a home in Lee County, Fla. three separate times. During each attempt, the homeowner called 911 for assistance. During the bear’s third attempt, the homeowner retrieved a firearm and fired three times at the bear, causing it to flee. Officials from the Lee County Sheriff's office stated that there was no evidence to suggest the bear was wounded and that the homeowner will not face any charges.

News4Jax, Jacksonville, Fla. 09/30/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 9/30/2009
Two robbers in Jacksonville, Fla. confronted Keith Lofton outside a home where he was spending time with friends. The criminals asked for a ride in Loftin’s truck; then, one man drew a gun and forced Loftin into the truck. Loftin’s friend, Barry Smith, witnessed the carjacking and ran inside the house to retrieve a gun. When Smith returned, Loftin retrieved a firearm from his truck, and both fired at the carjackers, striking one multiple times and causing the other to flee. The wounded criminal was taken to a local hospital and will be charged with armed carjacking when he is released. No charges have been filed against Loftin or Smith.

The Palm Beach Post, Palm Beach, Fla. 09/19/09
State: FL
American Rifleman Issue: 9/22/2009
A burglar in Lake Worth, Fla. hopped a fence onto 91-year-old Robert E. Thompson’s property , where he was immediately met by Thompson’s dog. The noise of the altercation between the dog and the criminal alerted Thompson, who retrieved his .38-caliber revolver and called 911. Thompson then went out to his yard and confronted the burglar. The burglar moved towards Thompson, so Thompson fired a warning shot which halted the criminal, whom he then held at gunpoint until police arrived. This was not the first time Thompson has used a firearm. The 91-year-old is a World War II combat veteran who was awarded a Purple Heart.

This archive contains “Armed Citizen” entries from the present back to 1958. The database is searchable by key word and state and results are displayed in chronological order according to the month of publication in the American Rifleman.

That sounds like a very unbiased source.

Even Tibby is against you on this. You're polishing the silverware on the Titanic, dude.

The NRA should also have a database of news articles reporting violent crimes committed with guns.

Linking to a webpage hosted by an organization that handpicks articles which suit its agenda hardly makes you right.

That's the great thing, though. I don't have to check his sources, because my argument is based on logic as opposed to handpicked cases which support my beliefs. Guns are specifically designed to end life. Increasing the number of guns in a public place increases the odds that life will end in that public place.

More devil's advocacy: the sources may have been bolded, but the stories have obviously been edited into a "summed up" form by the American Rifleman. Not that I'm accusing them of changing the facts, but it's easy to slightly alter the tone of a story.

Aaaaanyway, back to work <.<

How many shootings happen in gun stores or gun shows? According to your logic, the vast majority of them should happen there due to the heavy concentration of guns.

Guns are specifically designed to end life. Increasing the number of guns in a public place increases the odds that life will end in that public place.

my argument is based on logic ... Guns are specifically designed to end life. Increasing the number of guns in a public place increases the odds that life will end in that public place.

gg, way to troll

pot kettle black

Tu quoque, Jon`C

For someone who has a long history of publicly masturbating over what a great troll you are, I'm not surprised you couldn't come up with something better than "I know you are but what am I?"

gg, way to troll

That's true. If you had actually counterpointed any argument, that would have been a good response. Instead, you tossed out your own conjecture and pontifications.

Damn, when imsoshort starts sounding smarter than you, you need to fix yourself