http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ye4wkAiG0 <-----------

This is all I could think about. Why do christians feel like they have to "save" or "teach" everyone, everywhere they go.

I thought that the man should've been arrested as well. What did he expect? You can't just go onto property that you can't own and disrupt whatever is going on their just to fulfill your spiritual needs. Especially a business. This almost makes me want to go to this guys church, stand outside, and talk about how God isn't real.


Question to people who are more familiar with the fine details of the law: How does Westboro get away with it? Is it because of WHERE do they do it?

Pretty much. They're always on actual public property.

Yeah, Fred Phelps understands the first amendment and abuses it to the fullest extent possible.

**** yeah lawyers

God, no, CM, do you have to be so wrong? This is because of the gays. The gays are persecuting us. Read the first amendment some time

Very few real Christians feel the need to do anything of the sort. The problem is, you have a sub-literate underclass of pseudo-Christians ("Evangelicals") who follow the teachings of a charismatic cult leader/scam artist/pedophile/gay meth addict in a disgusting sham of Christianity. Evangelicalism is built on the importance of conversion, both of new members (in order to attract as much money as possible,) and re-conversion of existing members (to prevent people from drifting away.)

Evangelicalism also has a big emphasis on 'Speaking Christian.' Which, in reality, means spouting complete gibberish that no real Christian understands or would be caught dead saying.

Almost everybody in the WBC is a lawyer. They follow the law precisely, so they can sue people, governments and police forces for infringing upon or failing to protect their right to free speech whenever it is violated.

Or, if you're as intelligent and world-weary as Sarn, the WBC has never been arrested because they're working with the gays to subvert The Word of Jesus. That's why this crazy dude got arrested but the WBC never is. Yep, working with the gays. And the blacks, but not the jews because the jews are too busy running the shadow government. Praise Jesus!

Next question that I have thought of since I read this thread: I drive a subaru outback, does that mean I'm a lesbian?

Jon'C's'ses post is spot on, on both accounts.

yes

Only if you let female dinosaurs have sex with it.

this happened in the town i live in, lol

Lesbian Dinosaurs had sex with a Subaru Outback?

-I've clearly lost track of the topic.

no, what sarn originally posted.

also, sarn; wtf? there is NOT alot of gays in hemet. if anything, were are below average here. maybe palm springs and san diego have alot, but definitely not hemet

I drive an Outback and I'm thus far sadly lacking in lesbian dinosaur action. I think it's a hoax.

But Reid, surely any one of the few gays in Hemet would have an easy time becoming a police officer due to affirmative action or some other imaginary liberal bogeyman that Sarn hates.

No... No, I don't think hemet Has ANY gay people... Pretty sure it's all squirrel eating white people.
Seriously my bands old guitar player lived in romoland, right next to hemet. They eat squirrels.

squirrel is pretty good

But the officer was from the California Highway Patrol. He likely wasn't even originally from Hemet. Even if he was his first assignment would likely have been in a metro area that has a relatively high percentage of gayness. If he wasn't gay to begin with he could have turned gay through casual contact, probably in the line of duty. He might have a disability claim.

shut up

Anyone else notice Sarn hasn't even bothered to reply in the past page?

He still never responded to my question.

The Westboro Baptists filed the appropriate permits. This guy did not. Case closed. There are no rights being infringed upon other than the folks in line that had to deal with the bull****.

Say you went to a book signing for your favorite author. To show your love for his work, you stand on a table and start reading your favorite passages. People start paying attention to the commotion you're causing. The manager of the store asks you to leave, but you refuse. What do you think the consequences will be? Security will be called and if they can't get the job done the police will be called in.

You're not harming anybody. All you're trying to do is share the words of your favorite wordsmith to other people who are there for his book signing. They must share your opinion, why else would they be there? Why is that so wrong?

The more analogous situation would be if he were in the parking lot reading the passages while people were waiting to enter the book store to get their book signed. Clearly, though, he should still be arrested. He wouldn't have filed the proper permits.

BTW, what was the question? I'll give my Sarn response and as an added bonus, you'll get mine too!

That not a great use of the word evangelical. Those groups (Health and Wealth, Televangelists) tend to be reviled by the large majority of evangelicals just as much, if not more than the rest of society. Evangelical is an extremely broad term, and describes mostly politically conservative Christians with pretty average personalities and social attitudes.

Some evangelicals are beginning to distance themselves from that term due to it's growing association with those things you describe.

Parking lots are private property.

Considering that conversion, rebirth, and a word-for-word literate interpretation of the bible are all central tenets to Evangelicalism,.... well,.... a rose by any other name, you know?

As a former Evangelical I have to say that I'm with Jon'C on this one. I'm sure that Mormonism probably seems pretty average & normal in Utah.

ITT Wookie doesn't know what private property is.

I learned my lesson(s) about private property as a teenage skateboarder. I always tend to learn things the hard way.

I know what private property is. It's just that Roger Spruce's analogy was incorrect. The original incident took place in a parking lot while people were waiting to enter to conduct business. He compared that to actually disrupting a book signing. At least that's how I took his comment. It would be more accurate to compare it how I noted.

Unless you're taking issue with my permits comment. That was a joke.

Failtroll.

I take issue with all your posts. As a matter of principle.

Yeah. That was also obviously a joke. Other than the part about CHP. They get stationed where needed. He may have been CHP long enough that he was back in his home town.

I know a place in salt lake where you can fulfill all your desires.



I don't know, I think Mormonism is pretty average and normal everywhere.*


I mean, it still involves a cosmic zombie jew. Gold plates only add a small amount of ridonkulosi *

Exactly, but some evangelicals dislike the fact that it associates them with people that they so strongly dislike, such as televangelists. Technically speaking, televangelists are probably best not categorized as evangelicals.

... Do you know what evangelical means?

You brought it up to suggest that being a homosexual might impede him from doing his job properly. Because straight cops are paragons of fairness and reason.

e - oops, there's more than the first page. my bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism